"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[sintzu]

Goku became SS God and fought the decisive battle against Beerus in BoG, Goku killed Freeza in RoF and Goku is currently fightung Hit, the strongest warrior of Universe 6, and even in his base form did better than Vegeta.

Vegeta may not be getting huge final battles or killing main villains but at least he's getting to fight and be relevant to the plot which is more than I can say for the other Z fighters.

[Kanassa]

Fuck, i don't like it one bit, Dr Slump and Dragon Ball can't exist in the same universe.

Uh, they already do. Have you watched the original Dragonball?

[LightBing]

Technically there is not such thing as filler in Super. Because Super doesn't follow the manga. (Correct me if I am.wrong)

We can't call it filler and be definitely right. I sincerely doubt Mr.Toriyama wrote those plot points, if he didn't then it's filler. Doesn't need a manga, it's filler to the plot. I and other's should be using the word correctly, of course I'm assuming these are creations from another's and not just from Mr.Toriyama.

[Kuririn Fan]

Fuck, i don't like it one bit, Dr Slump and Dragon Ball can't exist in the same universe.

Uh, they already do. Have you watched the original Dragonball?

But of course, and that crossover never made sense unless they're alternate Slump characters.

[Wezenheim]

Eh. I get the feeling what most fans mean by filler these days is that the episode doesn't specifically relate to people getting punched in the face or directly setting up the required actions for people to get punched in the face, because none of Super's episodes thus far really fit that alternate description of "filler" either. The content of some of these episodes may not further the plot in a way some portions of the fandom are interested in, but they do still further plots that have been setup. Episode 15 specifically continued the plotline Satan set in motion by believing he saved the world with his love and calling for a press conference the episode prior.

Too much emphasis on continuous action would ultimately hurt the series. Having downtime in a narrative is important. Whether you like said downtime is another story entirely.

Agreed 100 percent. The downtime episodes had their own purpose, sometimes even moreso than some of the fighting episodes. Episode 12 in particular felt more like "filler" to me than say episodes 15 and 16, both of which actually have a significant place in the narrative. Beyond the "out of universe" reasons for downtime episodes to exist, they can also be made meaningful in the grand scheme of things if done correctly. I wouldn't mind getting a self contained downtime episode for pure fun either though.

It's awesome to hear that Arale will be featured in Dragon Ball Super soon! I was not expecting to see her return at all. Is it safe to assume she was the character Toriyama was referring to in that interview?

[Kuririn Fan]

Goku became SS God and fought the decisive battle against Beerus in BoG, Goku killed Freeza in RoF and Goku is currently fightung Hit, the strongest warrior of Universe 6, and even in his base form did better than Vegeta.

Vegeta may not be getting huge final battles or killing main enemies but at least he's getting to fight and be relevant to the plot which is more than I can say for the other Z fighters.

Kuririn, Muten Roshi and Tenshinhan were all part of beautifully choreographed fight in Revival of F movie. And they were main characters in at least third of the manga (Kuririn longer) and Vegeta wasn't mentioned once in 37% of the manga.

[alakazam^]

It's awesome to hear that Arale will be featured in Dragon Ball Super soon! I was not expecting to see her return at all. Is it safe to assume she was the character Toriyama was referring to in that interview?

Probably not, she has no ties to "the future".

[sintzu]

Kuririn, Muten Roshi and Tenshinhan were main characters in at least third of the manga (Kuririn longer) and Vegeta wasn't mentioned once in 37% of the manga.

Which has nothing to do with Super.

[Kuririn Fan]

Kuririn, Muten Roshi and Tenshinhan were main characters in at least third of the manga (Kuririn longer) and Vegeta wasn't mentioned once in 37% of the manga.

Which has nothing to do with Super.

They still fought in Super and Super is nothing when you look at the whole franchise.

[Wezenheim]

It's awesome to hear that Arale will be featured in Dragon Ball Super soon! I was not expecting to see her return at all. Is it safe to assume she was the character Toriyama was referring to in that interview?

Probably not, she has no ties to "the future".

That's what I figured. I wonder what her purpose will even be. Will she just be reintroduced for the sake of a fun new mini arc or will the Dr. Slump crew stick around for a while?

[Kuririn Fan]

It's awesome to hear that Arale will be featured in Dragon Ball Super soon! I was not expecting to see her return at all. Is it safe to assume she was the character Toriyama was referring to in that interview?

Probably not, she has no ties to "the future".

That's what I figured. I wonder what her purpose will even be. Will she just be reintroduced for the sake of a new mini arc?

I hope just 1 filler episode cameo.

[sintzu]

They still fought in Super

Super is nothing when you look at the whole franchise.

Freeza's nameless henchmen ?

Super is the current event so that makes it the most important part of the franchise by default.

[Kuririn Fan]

They still fought in Super

Super is nothing when you look at the whole franchise.

Freeza's nameless henchmen ?

Super is the current event so that makes it the most important part of the franchise by default.

No, it doesn't. And Vegeta didn't do shit. This isn't going anywhere, we should stop.

[VegettoEX]

Yes, please.

Unless you're discussing something relevant to official announcements, please take it elsewhere.

[Lord Beerus]

Arale is making a return in Dragon Ball Super!?!



All we need is for Neko Majin to appear at the end of Super and I die happy.

[namekiansaiyan]

Arale drinks the superhuman water and becomes strong. I don't see her staying for just 1 episode.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I'm remembering something vaguely either from reading on wiki (so not necessarily accurate) or from the old Dr. Slump primer podcast (so, accurate) - didn't Senbei say he'd make her an older adult body 'when she got older' at some point?

I think he did say that once, but we've seen what Arale looks like in the future, and she is still a child.

You could say that the Dr. Slump characters in Dragon Ball are not the same as they are in Dr. Slump. Dr. Slump does have a different looking Earth than the one in Dragon Ball and the Earth did get destroyed in Dr. Slump than it was restore back to normal a panel later.

During the crossover in the manga, it is stated that the characters we see in Penguin Village are the same ones we saw in the Dr. Slump manga.

Eh. I get the feeling what most fans mean by filler these days is that the episode doesn't specifically relate to people getting punched in the face or directly setting up the required actions for people to get punched in the face, because none of Super's episodes thus far really fit that alternate description of "filler" either. The content of some of these episodes may not further the plot in a way some portions of the fandom are interested in, but they do still further plots that have been setup. Episode 15 specifically continued the plotline Satan set in motion by believing he saved the world with his love and calling for a press conference the episode prior.

Too much emphasis on continuous action would ultimately hurt the series. Having downtime in a narrative is important. Whether you like said downtime is another story entirely.

From what we know so far, Toyotaro's manga hasn't omitted anything from Toriyama's story draft for Super, so all those slice-of-life episodes we've seen so far seem to be filler from Toei, and those we are about to get will most likely be filler as well.

[Sandubadear]

Arale drinks the superhuman water and becomes strong. I don't see her staying for just 1 episode.

Arale drinks the Super Human Water, becomes a clone-Vegeta, and fights Monaca.

[Araki]

From what we know so far, Toyotaro's manga hasn't omitted anything from Toriyama's story draft for Super

We actually don't know that. All we know is that Toyotaro also expands on Toriyama's ideas. He could've skipped things for time restraints, especially when the manga was more rushed.

For example. The following scene was in the anime but not in the manga:



And yet, Toyotaro made that drawing for the first volume. Indication that he skipped it?

We can't be sure if the content with Vegeta going after Whis, for instance, didn't come from Toriyama until someone from the inside is very clear about that.

[Sodhi]

Even though these are half titles, still very interesting.