The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Bullza » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:31 am

Not really a VS question but how strong is SSJ4 Goku, when it first appears? Is it true that somewhere it was said to be equal to that of Super Vegito?

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:36 am

Old Kaioshin says he's the greatest ki he ever felt, which could possibly place him >/>> Super Vegetto, if he sensed him, which I believe he did, as that comment would be completely asinine if it was the only ki he ever felt. I also believe he can sense ki, since he said base Gokhan would be plenty for Gotenks-Buu

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Post by Super SaiyaJon » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:58 am

I'm just going to leave these weird ones here before I go. Have fun with these. They are a bit... unusual:

Radraditz (Hypothetical Potara Fusion of 2 Raditzes) vs 1% Final Form Freeza

SSJ4 Gogeta (Buu Arc) vs Super Buu (Vegetto Absorbed)

Base Gogetto (Hypothetical Dance Fusion of 2 Vegettos) vs Super Buu (Omega Shenron Absorbed)
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:12 am

Bullza wrote:Not really a VS question but how strong is SSJ4 Goku, when it first appears? Is it true that somewhere it was said to be equal to that of Super Vegito?
I believe that what is said is that merging with Vegeta makes Super Vegetto perhaps stronger than SS4 Goku. But, if Goku gets stronger on top of that, his SS4 mode can surpass what Super Vegetto was back then, unless they fuse again. So Super Vegetto in GT would probably do a decent job against Omega Shenron, but maybe only with SS4 he would be able to make a fool of him, like Gogeta did.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Bullza » Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:43 am

How would rank Baby and Super 17's different forms and power ups from strongest to weakest.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:07 am

Super SaiyaJon wrote:I'm just going to leave these weird ones here before I go. Have fun with these. They are a bit... unusual:

Radraditz (Hypothetical Potara Fusion of 2 Raditzes) vs 1% Final Form Freeza

SSJ4 Gogeta (Buu Arc) vs Super Buu (Vegetto Absorbed)

Base Gogetto (Hypothetical Dance Fusion of 2 Vegettos) vs Super Buu (Omega Shenron Absorbed)
- Freeza stomps
- Buugetto turns SSJ4 Gogeta into candy
- Buumega Shenron stomps

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by In Brightest Day » Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:14 am

SSJ Goku (on Namek), SSJ Future Gohan, Piccolo (Android arc) and Kibito vs. Android #19, Cooler (transformed, Movie 5), Dr. Gero, King Cold, 100% Mecha Freeza and Yakon.

- Both Androids are post-absorbtions.

Vegeta (vs. 1st form Freeza) vs. Captain Ginyu, Dore, Neiz and Sauzer.

- Ginyu can't switch bodies.

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:45 am

Goten and/or Trunks VS M8 Broly
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In Brightest Day wrote:SSJ Goku (on Namek), SSJ Future Gohan, Piccolo (Android arc) and Kibito vs. Android #19, Cooler (transformed, Movie 5), Dr. Gero, King Cold, 100% Mecha Freeza and Yakon.

- Both Androids are post-absorbtions.

Vegeta (vs. 1st form Freeza) vs. Captain Ginyu, Dore, Neiz and Sauzer.

- Ginyu can't switch bodies.
- SSJ Gohan stomps everyone on his own and Goku, Piccolo and Kibito watch in wonder
- Vegeta stomps everybody.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:56 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Goten and/or Trunks VS M8 Broly
Broly stomps

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:59 am

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KentalSSJ6 wrote:Goten and/or Trunks VS M8 Broly
Broly stomps
Not to get off topic but you really gotta stop with the multiposts. It's possible to quote multiple people in one post.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:26 am

In Brightest Day wrote:SSJ Goku (on Namek), SSJ Future Gohan, Piccolo (Android arc) and Kibito vs. Android #19, Cooler (transformed, Movie 5), Dr. Gero, King Cold, 100% Mecha Freeza and Yakon.

- Both Androids are post-absorbtions.

Vegeta (vs. 1st form Freeza) vs. Captain Ginyu, Dore, Neiz and Sauzer.

- Ginyu can't switch bodies.
Post-absorption 19 smashes Goku while Cooler beats down Piccolo, Freeza, Gero, and Cold overwhelm future Gohan, and Yakon kills Kibito.

Salza tells Neiz to tell Dore to kill Ginyu and Vegeta with one hit (as in, one hit for both of them), and he does so.
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:51 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Goten and/or Trunks VS M8 Broly
Goten can potentially win, easily if it's post RoSaT. M8 LSSJ Broly is about equal to Cell (@ Goku) to me.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by voltlunok » Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:13 pm

Small crossover fight! If that's cool with everyone. Quick backstory to it, friends and I gathered, watched a bunch of DBZ and Saint Seiya movies. We ended the night with Battle of Gods and Legend of Sanctuary. Quickly turned into a discussion about who would win! So I present to the council the following versus!

Super Saiyan God Goku VS Pegasus God Cloth Seiya!

Minor edit! Just for those who aren't familiar with Seiya or the God cloths!
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Goten and/or Trunks VS M8 Broly
Broly wins.
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Post by Hugo Boss » Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:12 pm

voltlunok wrote:Super Saiyan God Goku VS Pegasus God Cloth Seiya!
I'm a fan of Saint Seiya, but unfortunately they lack feats to back their statements up, like moving at lightspeed and destroying galaxies stuff. So, I think Goku have this match as a fun sport. I don't think Seiya has the strength to destroy planets.

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Post by In Brightest Day » Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:56 pm

- Vegeta (vs. 1st form Freeza) vs. Son Gohan and Krillin (vs. 1st form Freeza), Son Goku (vs. Captain Ginyu) and Captain Ginyu.
- Shorty and Scarface vs. Toobi and Cabira.

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King Cold, Freeza, Cooler, Kuriza and their entire army vs. The Green Lantern Corps. :P

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Post by mysticboy » Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:14 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:King Cold, Freeza, Cooler, Kuriza and their entire army vs. The Green Lantern Corps. :P
Cold solos.

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Post by In Brightest Day » Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:19 pm

mysticboy wrote:
In Brightest Day wrote:King Cold, Freeza, Cooler, Kuriza and their entire army vs. The Green Lantern Corps. :P
Cold solos.
Is a joke fight, but... lol

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by voltlunok » Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:32 pm

Hugo Boss wrote:
voltlunok wrote:Super Saiyan God Goku VS Pegasus God Cloth Seiya!
I'm a fan of Saint Seiya, but unfortunately they lack feats to back their statements up, like moving at lightspeed and destroying galaxies stuff. So, I think Goku have this match as a fun sport. I don't think Seiya has the strength to destroy planets.
They've backed up the lightspeed fists multiple times. Pegasus Seiya, Leo Aiolia and Taurus Harbinger coming to mind. They've also shown how the gold saints and above make the laws of physics cry with stuff like Another Dimension or Galaxian Explosion.

However there is one thing I'd say that Seiya has in his corner and that is that he has defeated gods. Last I checked, 3. Thanatos, Hypnos and Hades. So 2 minor gods and one of the 12 Olympians. Different god types I know but it still speaks for how I don't think it's as one sided as some would think.
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Post by singsing » Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:37 pm

voltlunok wrote:
Hugo Boss wrote:
voltlunok wrote:Super Saiyan God Goku VS Pegasus God Cloth Seiya!
I'm a fan of Saint Seiya, but unfortunately they lack feats to back their statements up, like moving at lightspeed and destroying galaxies stuff. So, I think Goku have this match as a fun sport. I don't think Seiya has the strength to destroy planets.
They've backed up the lightspeed fists multiple times. Pegasus Seiya, Leo Aiolia and Taurus Harbinger coming to mind. They've also shown how the gold saints and above make the laws of physics cry with stuff like Another Dimension or Galaxian Explosion.

However there is one thing I'd say that Seiya has in his corner and that is that he has defeated gods. Last I checked, 3. Thanatos, Hypnos and Hades. So 2 minor gods and one of the 12 Olympians. Different god types I know but it still speaks for how I don't think it's as one sided as some would think.
Meh, Goku can one-shot all but 2 gods in his universe :lol:

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