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dbgtFO wrote:
Ha, had forgotten about that.
Would be good, if Toriyama makes that the reason for Goten changing his haircut(reminds of that fan comic, where Vegeta attacks Goten, thinking it's Goku).
Do you guys think we'll get new content right after the new movie? maybe they'll announce another movie right this one!
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So in the first chapter of the manga adaptation, Freeza's first thoughts are of Goku/Trunks, who seem to be the subject of his revenge (as opposed to Goku/Vegeta). We also haven't seen Goten/Trunks. I'm wondering, maybe they've clearly aged physically, and resemble Goku/Future Trunks, and are Freeza's first targets/victims when he gets to Earth?
Hope they both end up like Dende in the first few minutes of this movie...
That's a dark and unnecessarily cruel comment.
It's hilarious. Literally 5 minutes into the movie their bodies will look just like Dende's. They'll proceed to go unnoticed for the rest of the film, and also the series.
jk. But in all seriousness, I would like them to get beaten down badly by Frieza, who confuses them for Goku and Future Trunks.
"Dragon Ball once became a thing of the past to me, but after that, I got angry about the live action movie, re-wrote an entire movie script, and now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime. It seems Dragon Ball has grown on me so much that I can't leave it alone." - Akira Toriyama on Dragon Ball Super
SonsOfUlron21 wrote:Need some news and leaks, Can't count how many I watch the trailer.
Did you miss the big announcement today?
I think he means about the content of the movie itself. Don't worry, the V-jump comes out in 5 days, though SaiyaJedi says he could have it by the 18th depending on your time zone.
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SonsOfUlron21 wrote:Need some news and leaks, Can't count how many I watch the trailer.
We're getting Chapter 2 of the manga adaption this week. Hopefully sooner than later.
Re: Hair highlights on poster
I still think that'll be some massive trolling by Yamamuro if he chose magenta to highlight Gokû's hair and then they didn't even activate his ssjg mode in the movie. Same with Vegeta and the blue. >_>
He could've easily chosen regular white or yellow lightning for them both, or blue for them both, but he chose magenta, so I won't give up hope.
SonsOfUlron21 wrote:Need some news and leaks, Can't count how many I watch the trailer.
Did you miss the big announcement today?
I think he means about the content of the movie itself. Don't worry, the V-jump comes out in 5 days, though SaiyaJedi says he could have it by the 18th depending on your time zone.
SonsOfUlron21 wrote:Need some news and leaks, Can't count how many I watch the trailer.
We're getting Chapter 2 of the manga adaption this week. Hopefully sooner than later.
Re: Hair highlights on poster
I still think that'll be some massive trolling by Yamamuro if he chose magenta to highlight Gokû's hair and then they didn't even activate his ssjg mode in the movie. Same with Vegeta and the blue. >_>
He could've easily chosen regular white or yellow lightning for them both, or blue for them both, but he chose magenta, so I won't give up hope.
I'll be 100% pissed if they don't use SSJ God form at all. Then they literally made a form just to get rid of it for a power up. Why not just skip the form and have just made the whole thing a power up instead.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Why not just skip the form and have just made the whole thing a power up instead.
Because then Battle of Gods wouldn't have made as much money.
And how is taking out the god form gonna bring more money?
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
This actually happened. No one can tell me otherwise.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
dbzfan7 wrote:And how is taking out the god form gonna bring more money?
Because Freeza is back
That doesn't answer the question. Besides Freeza fighting a Super Saiyan God looks cooler than Freeza fighting base Saiyans.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
SonsOfUlron21 wrote:Some news on how the hell vegeta even get to the Gods planet to train with Whis, He's not going to do instant Transmission with Goku would he?
I'm sure they were likely both just formally invited to come over. Whis likely just picked them up.
Wow, I just heard about the Funimation news. And at first I was all excited for it cause I live close enough to see the screening. But nope, "Sold Out". How utterly disappointing. I really don't want my first experience of this movie to be the dub.
SonsOfUlron21 wrote:Some news on how the hell vegeta even get to the Gods planet to train with Whis, He's not going to do instant Transmission with Goku would he?
I'm sure they were likely both just formally invited to come over. Whis likely just picked them up.
Nah I feel like Goku wants to train but you could be right.
Edit:also Whis already invited goku in BOG he said no, so it makes sense Goku wants more power.
maybe they'll announce another movie right this one! 
