Full-Color Manga: preview/reference panels for each chapter

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Re: Full-Color Manga: preview/reference panels for each chap

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:55 pm

Tyro wrote:But this is getting a tad monotonous. Before I start breaking thing downs chapter-by-chapter at the 23rd TB is there anything else of interest you guys want to see? (I don't have volumes 42 and 35 yet, but soon!)
When you get vol. 42, I would like to know if Oob's eyes turn red when he gets angry, like they do in the original manga. :)
And also, if you could confirm if Gohan has a white aura as a Super Saiyan after the 25th TB, so that we can know if he is portrayed as a SS or a SS2.
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James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Full-Color Manga: preview/reference panels for each chap

Post by Tyro » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:56 pm

I can confirm that this release uses the kanzenban's ending. And because I love each and everyone of you, here you go (but I will not be posting any more full pages):
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:When you get vol. 42, I would like to know if Oob's eyes turn red when he gets angry, like they do in the original manga. :)
Nope, white. Picture coming in 2 seconds.

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Re: Full-Color Manga: preview/reference panels for each chap

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:02 pm

Nice! I guessed they would make Oob's eyes white, since I remember white eyes being colored red in other limited color pages of the original manga.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Full-Color Manga: preview/reference panels for each chap

Post by Tyro » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:06 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:And also, if you could confirm if Gohan has a white aura as a Super Saiyan after the 25th TB, so that we can know if he is portrayed as a SS or a SS2.
Which time? It's white/SS when he's angry about Videl getting beaten, yellow/SS2 when he's about to fight Kibito.

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Re: Full-Color Manga: preview/reference panels for each chap

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:10 pm

Tyro wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:And also, if you could confirm if Gohan has a white aura as a Super Saiyan after the 25th TB, so that we can know if he is portrayed as a SS or a SS2.
Which time? It's white/SS when he's angry about Videl getting beaten, yellow/SS2 when he's about to fight Kibito.
Every instance after the tournament, during the Babidi & Z-Sword stuff.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Full-Color Manga: preview/reference panels for each chap

Post by Tyro » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:05 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Every instance after the tournament, during the Babidi & Z-Sword stuff.
Whoops, after the tournament. Yes, all instances are him with a white SS aura except when he's blasting Boo's ball which had a yellow outline (but different from SS2), like you'd expect.

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Re: Full-Color Manga: preview/reference panels for each chap

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Tyro wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Every instance after the tournament, during the Babidi & Z-Sword stuff.
Whoops, after the tournament. Yes, all instances are him with a white SS aura except when he's blasting Boo's ball which had a yellow outline (but different from SS2), like you'd expect.
I see, thanks. I asked because of, you know... that debate.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Full-Color Manga: preview/reference panels for each chap

Post by Cold Skin » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:58 pm

I find Cell's perfect body much more impressive than in the anime.

Is it because of Toriyama's thinner and classier shape for him?
Because of his darker shade of green?
Because of his striking red eyes?
Because of the tasteful blue articulations?
Because of his pitch black pecs with a lot of superb reflections?
Because of his very subtle blue skin?

Well, maybe all of those at once. 8)
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Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:15 pm

Wow so Goku's outfit when he fought ob was Green not Blue.

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Post by Storm » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:17 pm

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Re: Full-Color Manga: preview/reference panels for each chap

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:19 pm

Tyro wrote:
Unfortunately it seems that the Full Color manga chose to color Pure Evil Majin Boo grey instead of Toriyama's intended pink, like the rest of the Boos.
That's grey/gray? Looks about Pinkish-Gray to me. Dead Pink is the right term. So Can't we say that it's a mixture?

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Post by hleV » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:34 pm

So we have Boo colored the same for every form of his in a limited color palette, and there's no indication whatsoever that Pure Evil Boo is supposed to have a different shade of pink, yet it's completely fine to alter it just for the heck of it? Stop trying to justify bullshit, please.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:41 pm

hleV wrote:So we have Boo colored the same for every form of his in a limited color palette, and there's no indication whatsoever that Pure Evil Boo is supposed to have a different shade of pink, yet it's completely fine to alter it just for the heck of it? Stop trying to justify bullshit, please.
I am justifying bullshit? Really? All I said was that it was Dead Pink. Not Grey. I never said it was right or wrong. So I didn't justify anything. So please don't accuse me of justifying ANYTHING please. Also I've found out the topic of Boo skin came about already.

Just read these comments:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Looks more like a faded pink rather than gray to me.

Can we have this shot from the colored manga to compare?
Tyro wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Looks more like a faded pink rather than gray to me.

Can we have this shot from the colored manga to compare?
*snip*
Absolutely, but it's nowhere near as good as the anime's shot. You only get to see Pure Evil Boo's head.
Lighter than the anime? Yep. Still grey? Yep.
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
That's the color. It looks like light purple/pink.
Tyro wrote:Here's a comparison of Full Color Mr. Boo, Pure Evil Boo, and your shot of Pure Evil Boo in the anime.

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No doubt about it, it's different than the anime. Definitely closer to pink, but it's still unsatisfying that he's not pink like the other Boos.
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:To play devil's advocate, we never saw Pure Evil Boo in pink color like the other Boo's.
rereboy wrote:I'm satisfied with that color for Pure Evil Buu. Its a nice compromise between pink and grey. Despite not being really grey like in the anime, it still manages to function as an indicator that this Buu is supposed to be the opposite of Good Buu even in color, while still having just enough pink in his color to be a Buu. Couldn't have asked for a better result, really.
Cold Skin wrote:I like the idea of a faded pink.
I think it's meant to be related to his "sick" appearance. While Mr. Boo is fat and seems like some "enjoying life" kind of guy even with his cheery bright pink color, Evil Boo is terribly skinny and a very pale pink, making you feel more uncomfortable like a very ill version of Boo, a "malfunction" of the other Boo or something like that. So in the end, I think it's nice that he's still pink, but a very "sick" pale pink to go with his sick, gloomy appearance.
rereboy wrote:With the limited colors of those images on Daizenshuu, it would be impossible to reproduce light pink, even if that was what Toriyama had in mind. Heck, even the pink of the anime and the pink of Buu used in other illustrations is lighter than the color used in Daizenshuu, since it looks almost red.

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Post by hleV » Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:25 pm

It was directed to any person who tries to justify Pure Evil Boo's different skin color. I haven't even read your post.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:35 pm

hleV wrote:It was directed to any person who tries to justify Pure Evil Boo's different skin color. I haven't even read your post.
Persons*. More than one gave a GREAT reason.

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Post by rereboy » Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:43 pm

hleV wrote:It was directed to any person who tries to justify Pure Evil Boo's different skin color. I haven't even read your post.
Jeez, how dares anyone to have a different opinion than yours, eh?

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Post by Saiga » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:14 pm

Do we know the colour this release uses for Gohan's gi when training Goten yet?
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Post by Tyro » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:57 pm

Saiga wrote:Do we know the colour this release uses for Gohan's gi when training Goten yet?
Purple and "Goki's gi" yellow-gold.

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Update: I'm getting all the chapters in order and once that's done I'll try to put five previews (full chapters like Cold Skin's) together for you. My goal is to have this all done for you guys before VIZ releases their first book.

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Post by Saiga » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:04 am

Ooh, thanks! It doesn't look bad, but I would have preferred the green and orange. Although maybe the colourers thought that'd be too similar to Trunks' gi.
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Re: Full-Color Manga: preview/reference panels for each chap

Post by alakazam^ » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:37 am

Pure Evil has white eyes just like the manga and Oob gets white eyes when enraged. What about the other forms?

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