The height conundrum

[RandomGuy96]

Seems it could be right, but he looks HUGE compared to Yajirobi and Goku. But maybe his wideness is just giving an illusion that he looks bigger?

Also, it seems most characters average around 5'11"

Also, Manwolf, would that be when he was in wolf form or human form? I think he was bigger as a wolf.

Pretty sure it's his wolf form.



Yep. Cymbal definitely doesn't look only 5'11, but I guess you could chalk it up to height exaggeration for the sake of the art, like when Mr. Satan suddenly size shifts to ten feet tall for on panel. Or a case of kid Goku and, by extension, any character close to him in height being downgraded, sometimes to as small as a basketball. Even then though, this height is rather hard to... swallow:



Back to the M8 height chart: I'd say Paragus is 6'0/183 cm.

[Attitudefan]

Cymbal, if I were a betting man, has an incorrect height listing. If it was for effect, he wouldn't be consistnently huge like that. I mean, how he is potrayed is how I imagined him to be not like his tiny listing given. He looks to be close to Daimao's size there. Damn. Do we havew a shot of both Daimao and Cymbal together?


I'd give Paragus 6'0/6'0.5 maybe 6'1. He looks slightly bigger than Yamcha does. Just slightly when compared to Goku. Goku comes up to about Yamcha's forehead, while there, he comes up to Paragus' eyes. I'd give the edge to Paragus.

According to the M8 chart, I noticed they also made Vegeta shorter than Bulma! I would say it is actually pretty accurate, for the most part (except Piccolo, like usual).

[RandomGuy96]

Cymbal, if I were a betting man, has an incorrect height listing. If it was for effect, he wouldn't be consistnently huge like that. I mean, how he is potrayed is how I imagined him to be not like his tiny listing given. He looks to be close to Daimao's size there. Damn. Do we havew a shot of both Daimao and Cymbal together?


I'd give Paragus 6'0/6'0.5 maybe 6'1. He looks slightly bigger than Yamcha does. Just slightly when compared to Goku. Goku comes up to about Yamcha's forehead, while there, he comes up to Paragus' eyes. I'd give the edge to Paragus.

According to the M8 chart, I noticed they also made Vegeta shorter than Bulma! I would say it is actually pretty accurate, for the most part (except Piccolo, like usual).

I can't find one at the moment, if one exists (if it did, it would be right after Daimao births him). But don't underestimate height fluctuation; kid Goku and anyone comparable to him looks absolutely pint-sized in most fights. Going by official heights, then that one manga page I posted makes Cymbal look like 20 feet tall, but I doubt he's really supposed to be that big.

On the shot you posted with Tambourine and Cymbal: aren't those not actually those two, but just some generic demons from a filler flashback who happen to look exactly like them?

Don't forget Krillin, Oolong, and Roshi, the midget trio, as usual.

Another comparison shot from the anime, this time with Tambourine (6'2) and Chappa (6'1)



Angle kinda sucks, but they both look about right.

Assuming that line is supposed to represent 175 cm, the top of Goku's head is at Paragus's forehead (that's where the line goes through). DB characters have big foreheads.

[Attitudefan]

Don't forget Krillin, Oolong, and Roshi, the midget trio, as usual.

True, and lets not forget how small they made Krillin look compare to Raditz for effect.

Another comparison shot from the anime, this time with Tambourine (6'2) and Chappa (6'1)

That's a very good comparison. You can see the way it's angled matches up about right. Huh, I always thought he was bigger. Now looking back, Tambourine is small for a demon.

Assuming that line is supposed to represent 175 cm, the top of Goku's head is at Paragus's forehead (that's where the line goes through). DB characters have big foreheads.

My mistake. You're right. I'd place Paragus then at a strong 6'0 then. Same as Yamcha. Boy, Goku is starting to look the smallest out of the 'normal' height characters. I mean, besides Krillin, Vegeta and a few others, the rest are much bigger than him.

[RandomGuy96]

That's a very good comparison. You can see the way it's angled matches up about right. Huh, I always thought he was bigger. Now looking back, Tambourine is small for a demon.

6'2 is pretty tall, at least for a human. Who are you comparing him to? He doesn't seem tiny unless you compare him to the gargantuan eight foot plus demons like Dabra, Super Buu, and of course Daimao himself. He's at least taller than Piano, Cymbal, and the original Buu, but shorter than Drum and Akkuman.

My mistake. You're right. I'd place Paragus then at a strong 6'0 then. Same as Yamcha. Boy, Goku is starting to look the smallest out of the 'normal' height characters. I mean, besides Krillin, Vegeta and a few others, the rest are much bigger than him.

What do you think a "normal height" character is? You mean not a giant monster like Oozaru Goku? In which case he's taller than a bunch of the short characters. Goku is average (though it depends on the country I guess, 5'9 is decently above average in Japan, a bit below average in the USA, just about dead average in France, etc.) and doesn't fluctuate too much, making him a good measuring stick for characters without listed heights.

Also, looking at it again, I think Paragus is only 181 cm/5'11.25 rather than the full six feet. He really doesn't look much taller than Goku.

[Attitudefan]

6'2 is pretty tall, at least for a human. Who are you comparing him to? He doesn't seem tiny unless you compare him to the gargantuan eight foot plus demons like Dabra, Super Buu, and of course Daimao himself. He's at least taller than Piano, Cymbal, and the original Buu, but shorter than Drum and Akkuman.

Well, I did say for a demon. I mean, considering how tall Daimao is and even Dabra, for example, are quite big guys. But now that I think about it, even when Yamcha fought Tambourine in filler, they looked close to the same size. I guess he is a good height for a fighter demon.

What do you think a "normal height" character is

People who are not midgets or children or monster size like Piccolo to Oozaru or Hirudegarn. I consider everyone else that are not like this as "normal" height in DBZ. So those who are monster height or child height.

Also, looking at it again, I think Paragus is only 181 cm/5'11.25 rather than the full six feet. He really doesn't look much taller than Goku.

Possibly, but I think he comes above that. I would say he is at least above 5'11.5. Goku only comes up to his forehead, and in the movie, he comes across as pretty big. Usually a weaker 5'11 comes off more as average while a strong 6 footer will usually come off as above average to fairly tall and will portrayed as that.

[RandomGuy96]

6'2 is pretty tall, at least for a human. Who are you comparing him to? He doesn't seem tiny unless you compare him to the gargantuan eight foot plus demons like Dabra, Super Buu, and of course Daimao himself. He's at least taller than Piano, Cymbal, and the original Buu, but shorter than Drum and Akkuman.

Well, I did say for a demon. I mean, considering how tall Daimao is and even Dabra, for example, are quite big guys. But now that I think about it, even when Yamcha fought Tambourine in filler, they looked close to the same size. I guess he is a good height for a fighter demon.

What do you think a "normal height" character is

People who are not midgets or children or monster size like Piccolo to Oozaru or Hirudegarn. I consider everyone else that are not like this as "normal" height in DBZ. So those who are monster height or child height.

Also, looking at it again, I think Paragus is only 181 cm/5'11.25 rather than the full six feet. He really doesn't look much taller than Goku.

Possibly, but I think he comes above that. I would say he is at least above 5'11.5. Goku only comes up to his forehead, and in the movie, he comes across as pretty big. Usually a weaker 5'11 comes off more as average while a strong 6 footer will usually come off as above average to fairly tall and will portrayed as that.

Well they're both demon kings, so it's fitting they be large and in charge. Is Tambourine tall/average for a Namekian?

Well, going by that definition, Krillin only sometimes counts.

Height chart for M7 that I'm pretty sure hasn't been posted. Why's everybody gotta be so tall in this series?



Oh, and a height comparison with Piccolo and Super Garlic Jr:

[dbgtFO]

Cymbal, if I were a betting man, has an incorrect height listing. If it was for effect, he wouldn't be consistnently huge like that. I mean, how he is potrayed is how I imagined him to be not like his tiny listing given. He looks to be close to Daimao's size there. Damn. Do we havew a shot of both Daimao and Cymbal together?

I can't find one at the moment, if one exists (if it did, it would be right after Daimao births him). But don't underestimate height fluctuation; kid Goku and anyone comparable to him looks absolutely pint-sized in most fights. Going by official heights, then that one manga page I posted makes Cymbal look like 20 feet tall, but I doubt he's really supposed to be that big.

Cymbal and Tambourine were both smaller than Piccolo sitting in his chair. In the manga you only get to see Cymbal and Tambourine standing next to each other from bird perspective, so it's hard to conclude how big the difference is between the two, but Cymbal looks taller mostly because of his bigger body and head.

[KentalSSJ6]

Sure this was posted sometime earlier but heres a good height comparison from Namek in Kanzenban 21.

[Patrick]

I was watching the newest TFS episode today, and there was one shot where Piccolo and Kami were standing close to one another, and then it hit me. Kami's one tall old bastard, he's almost as tall as Piccolo.



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So, Piccolo Jr is supposed to be 7'4", while Piccolo Daimao is 8'2". I'm guessing Kami is 6'10" since he's slouching a bit?

[Cetra]

How long is Shenlong supposed to be? Longer than Hildegarn's height?

[Patrick]

I don't know how big Hildegarn is supposed to be, although Shenlong is listed as 30meters(About 99ft) in this chart(which I think I got off of Funimation's facebook feed)

[Cetra]

I don't know how big Hildegarn is supposed to be, although Shenlong is listed as 30meters(About 99ft) in this chart(which I think I got off of Funimation's facebook feed)

I think Shenlong should be greater than Hildegarn who seems like 50 metres - and one here thought about 40 to 50 metres for Hildegarn a few days ago, which I think of as possible. Anaconda's alone can get like 9 metres long. Shenlong seems even greater than Polunga (though that might be proven wrong by Polunga just going more out of the Dragon Balls).

Smaug is 60 metres tall? That seems like a fitting Shenlong height, so length for me. Though Shenlong also seems to be smaller and taller in certain situations.

[RandomGuy96]

I was watching the newest TFS episode today, and there was one shot where Piccolo and Kami were standing close to one another, and then it hit me. Kami's one tall old bastard, he's almost as tall as Piccolo.



(just ignore the grey play button)

So, Piccolo Jr is supposed to be 7'4", while Piccolo Daimao is 8'2". I'm guessing Kami is 6'10" since he's slouching a bit?

Minor nitpick: Piccolo is 7'5/226 cm.

If anything I've always been confused by how small Kami is. Consider that Piccolo is quite a bit taller than Kami here, is not at his peak height (and likely not 7'5), and in his past life was much bigger when he was very old (same age as Kami) than he was when young.



Here's Freeza and Piccolo for another Piccolo comparison. Freeza seems to tower over Piccolo (especially considering his posture) but not by TOO much.

[Patrick]

Minor nitpick: Piccolo is 7'5/226 cm.

Huh, and I'm sure I corrected someone for the exact same thing earlier. Damn.

If anything I've always been confused by how small Kami is. Consider that Piccolo is quite a bit taller than Kami here, is not at his peak height (and likely not 7'5), and in his past life was much bigger when he was very old (same age as Kami) than he was when young.

Even then, Piccolo is still probably a little over 7ft. That still makes Kami fairly tall with all things considered(he's old so he's probably shrunk quite a bit. The very top of Kami's head comes right under Piccolo's nose.)

Here's Freeza and Piccolo for another Piccolo comparison. Freeza seems to tower over Piccolo (especially considering his posture) but not by TOO much.

Huh, and to think that his 3rd form is supposed to be taller. How tall do you estimate Piccolo to be in that picture?

[RandomGuy96]

I somewhat arbitrarily listed Saiyan/Freeza arc Piccolo at 7'0, but to be honest around that time he only looks a bit over a head taller than Goku (6'7?) whenever you see them together. He rarely looks like he's really 7'5, even in the Buu arc.

Incidentally, how tall would you estimate Piccolo and Super Buu are in that height chart that features them, Gotenks, Goku, and Gohan, going purely off of Gohan being about 5'9.5?

[Attitudefan]

I somewhat arbitrarily listed Saiyan/Freeza arc Piccolo at 7'0, but to be honest around that time he only looks a bit over a head taller than Goku (6'7?) whenever you see them together. He rarely looks like he's really 7'5, even in the Buu arc.

Incidentally, how tall would you estimate Piccolo and Super Buu are in that height chart that features them, Gotenks, Goku, and Gohan, going purely off of Gohan being about 5'9.5?

If I remember which chart you are talking about (sorry, I'm on my phone right now and I haven't looked back yet) I think he looks about 7 foot on the spot.

[RandomGuy96]

Ditto. But it shouldn't be too hard to recall; it's the only one with Super Buu.

[Attitudefan]

Yeah, I thought it was that one. Hmmm, honestly, Piccolo looks more like 6'9 or 6'10 than 7 feet. Search up "Kevin Nash height" on Google and you'll come across something like this:


He is listed at 6'9 and the dude standing by him is 5'8. So if Gohan is 176 cm than I speculate Piccolo would be 6'10 as they share the same height difference as Nash and that guy beside him (but as Gohan is 5'9 instead of 5'8 we go up one for Piccolo for the sake of this comparison)

[TheGmGoken]

How good and accurate is the heights here. I not sure if these are fan-drawn. Also I usually take a backseat and just read on topics likes these. But I felt this was a good comparison for height