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Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

Post by RoarkVegeta » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:24 pm

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Danfun64 wrote:All the in-house episode dvds are uncut. Some of the movies are available in cut and uncut form on dvd, but aside from that the only dvd episodes with cuts are the ones from the saban dub.
Thanks! I was considering them since I heard they have the same quality footage as the Dragon Boxes. I'd get the Orange Bricks if only for the boxes. :lol: But I probably won't get any singles anytime soon since there's a lot and it'd cost a lot.
Are you saying the singles have similar footage to the Dragon Box? Granted, I haven't seen an episode from the singles in quite some time, but I don't believe that's really the case. I do have a spare Cell Games DVD I could compare with the Japanese Box if I find the time to do it.

Again, I could be completely wrong with what you're inferring or that they actually do look that good, and if that's the case I apologize.

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Post by Anime Kitten » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:30 pm

RoarkVegeta wrote:Are you saying the singles have similar footage to the Dragon Box? Granted, I haven't seen an episode from the singles in quite some time, but I don't believe that's really the case. I do have a spare Cell Games DVD I could compare with the Japanese Box if I find the time to do it.
I can't remember what thread, but I think I read someone saying that they have the same footage as the Dragon Boxes. It could've been a different line, but I'm not sure.
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Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

Post by Danfun64 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:38 pm

The singles have the japanese with subs and the original english dub (no orange bricks redubbing) with faulconer. No dub with kikuchi (like that matters for the second half of Freeza saga, Garlic Jr Saga, and first half of Cell saga). Unlike all future US releases with the exception of the Funi Dragon Boxes, they also had the option of Japanese title screens (still no NEP's though). However, the encoding is horrendous (there is macroblocking everywhere...).

If you can afford the Funi Dragon Boxes, get those instead. The main advantage of the Singles is getting what is mostly the original English dub (*cough* Cell Games narrator redubbing *cough*), as well as the original dub in 4:3. Of course, IMO the Kai dub has obsoleted most of the DBZ dubs from Raditz to Cell's death... , with the obvious exception of whatever filler was cut from Kai.
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Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

Post by Bagginses » Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:30 am

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Bagginses wrote:Hi, I was wondering if anyone here could tell me what is the last panel of the first volume of Z portion of the series? I have an ancient edition which is a half-tankobon that ends with the panel of the pods of Vegeta and Nappa in space flying towards the Earth... can anyone confirm if this is indeed the last panel of the original Volume 17?
We share the same ending. Volume 17 of my tankoubon has Vegeta and Nappa's pods traveling in space as the final drawn panel. Afterwards, there is a collection of the nine cover pages for the chapters, as originally published in Weekly Shonen Jump. Naturally, the final flap is the publishing information. Does any of this match up for you?
No, my volume just has the final panel of Vegeta and Nappa's pods... plus a page in my native language (Portuguese) explaining how to read a manga. :lol: The publishing information is in the beginning. And the start of the manga is chapter 195 (or whatever chapter ''Z'' begins). That means it's 2/3 of a tankobon (I said ''half tankobon'' earlier but that's not accurate since it has about 145 pages). The rest of the volumes I own are half-tankobons however, as they have about 100 pages each. Thus instead of 26 volumes for Z, I have a whooping 51. :D

Anyway, all I wanted to know was if my first volume was a genuine full tankobon or not. And it seems it's not... but it's not half a volume like the rest either. It's an 'hybrid': a bizarre 2/3 tankobon. :lol:

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Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

Post by RoarkVegeta » Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:27 pm

Here's a bit of a comparison for ya. These snapshots were taken in VLC, so they aren't going to be what they would look like if I ripped them and such, I have class soon so I'm in a bit of a rush. These come from DBZ episode 173:

Japanese Dragon Box:

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FUNimation Single:

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Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

Post by Anime Kitten » Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:30 pm

RoarkVegeta wrote:Here's a bit of a comparison for ya. These snapshots were taken in VLC, so they aren't going to be what they would look like if I ripped them and such, I have class soon so I'm in a bit of a rush. These come from DBZ episode 173:
Japanese Dragon Box:
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FUNimation Single:
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Well, that's not too bad. The Dragon Boxes clearly have better coloring, but at least there's no cropping going on in the singles.
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Post by RoarkVegeta » Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:40 pm

Anime Kitten wrote: Well, that's not too bad. The Dragon Boxes clearly have better coloring, but at least there's no cropping going on in the singles.
Of course not. Pretty much, besides the English Dragon Box, the singles are the best 4:3 release you're gonna get. Besides the eyecatches missing on occasion, they're a good way to watch the show, despite so many of them.

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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Sat Aug 27, 2016 9:56 am

Not thread worthy but I'm wondering if the show Steven Universe on Cartoon Network is almost a parody of DBZ or maybe retelling/rewriting is the word. The entire saga of the villain Jasper is a lot like the Saiyan Saga. Steven and the Gems learn that powerful alien gems are coming to Earth after meeting/battling an alien gem named Peridot (Radditz) , not sure exactly when but it takes time for them to come in the ship much like Vegeta/Nappa. Before we go any further I'd like to say its already confirmed the fusion dance in the show is an idea taken from DBZ. Anyway Jasper comes and has this attitude about being an elite gem (Vegeta), how she is stronger than any of them and so on.

Then as the show progresses we see Jasper has a strong distaste for fusion (like Vegeta) but will do it when pushed to a certain point...also like Vegeta.

Are there any other characters from other shows or shows entirely you think have taken from DBZ heavily?
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Post by Anime Kitten » Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:25 pm

Oh, Steven Universe? :yawn:

Well, Gumball in The Amazing World of Gumball explicitly mentions Super Saiyan, and actually becomes one in another episode.
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Post by kinisking » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:44 pm

I really wanted future trunks as a supersaiyan, with the black undershirt as my avatar but was struggling to find the proper size necessary. Could anyone help me?
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Post by Anime Kitten » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:35 pm

kinisking wrote:I really wanted future trunks as a supersaiyan, with the black undershirt as my avatar but was struggling to find the proper size necessary. Could anyone help me?
The usual avatar size is 100x100 pixels, if that's what you're looking for.
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Post by kinisking » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:50 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:
kinisking wrote:I really wanted future trunks as a supersaiyan, with the black undershirt as my avatar but was struggling to find the proper size necessary. Could anyone help me?
The usual avatar size is 100x100 pixels, if that's what you're looking for.
I couldn't find one that small though.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:58 pm

kinisking wrote:I couldn't find one that small though.
You could always crop and resize an image. On my computer, I use paint.net, and on mobile, I use EZGIF (not limited to GIFs). Obviously you'll also have to use Imgur or what have you as well.
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Post by kinisking » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:04 pm

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kinisking wrote:I couldn't find one that small though.
You could always crop and resize an image. On my computer, I use paint.net, and on mobile, I use EZGIF (not limited to GIFs). Obviously you'll also have to use Imgur or what have you as well.
Thanks for the advice!
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Post by kinisking » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:02 pm

I was a vocal hater of Gohan's glasses, but now I kind of like them after much thought. They go well with his Round eyes, and taking it off to get serious is kind of badass. Would be awesome to see him get angry later on and they just end up getting destroyed from his power.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:33 pm

kinisking wrote:Would be awesome to see him get angry later on and they just end up getting destroyed from his power.
I had a similar idea for my fanfic involving Pan:
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Post by kinisking » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:39 pm

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kinisking wrote:Would be awesome to see him get angry later on and they just end up getting destroyed from his power.
I had a similar idea for my fanfic involving Pan:
Shit, I've already forgotten about GT pan :lol: Didn't know what you were talking about at first. Pretty cool idea though. Her first transformation should definitely rip it!
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Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

Post by Danfun64 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:23 pm

Is there really much point to watching the Blue Water dub of original Dragon Ball? Best case scenario, even if the YTV version has fewer edits than the Toonami UK version, it at the very least inherits AB Groupe's poor cut-the-whole-scene censored transfers. At least with GT, the french masters were either uncut or were edited far more competently, so most of the censorship would be handled by Ocean, giving it has a better ability to rival Funi's dub. With original DB however, knowing that there is a possibility that stuff was cut for time or content regardless of the flow of things, and the fact that Funi's dub doesn't suffer these problems... We aren't France, where the "solution" for uncut audio was mixing in the cut dub with japanese audio w/ subs. We English speakers have a dub that covers everything, even if it's slightly less accurate than the mangled alternative.

What do you think of this?
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Post by Bansho64 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:22 pm

Danfun64 wrote:Is there really much point to watching the Blue Water dub of original Dragon Ball? Best case scenario, even if the YTV version has fewer edits than the Toonami UK version, it at the very least inherits AB Groupe's poor cut-the-whole-scene censored transfers. At least with GT, the french masters were either uncut or were edited far more competently, so most of the censorship would be handled by Ocean, giving it has a better ability to rival Funi's dub. With original DB however, knowing that there is a possibility that stuff was cut for time or content regardless of the flow of things, and the fact that Funi's dub doesn't suffer these problems... We aren't France, where the "solution" for uncut audio was mixing in the cut dub with japanese audio w/ subs. We English speakers have a dub that covers everything, even if it's slightly less accurate than the mangled alternative.

What do you think of this?
I'm not sure whether I agree but it's a pretty valid point. But that brings me to another question. If they Blue Water
dub is based off French one, does that mean the French DB dub is accurate?

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Post by Danfun64 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:45 pm

They use two different scripts for the most part, though they use the same footage and edits. At least the first couple dozen episodes of the BW dub use the Funi script, which was done long after the French script. In some ways the French might be more accurate, but it's a lot vaguer. "What's your name?" "I don't know! I'm my grandfather's grandson!"
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