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Re: Bang Zoom Dragon Ball Super Dub

Post by NintendoBlaze53 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:06 am

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jelleline89 wrote:I don't care if it's Lex Lang, Sean Schemmel, or even Donald Trump. People shouldn't be expected to stay silent if they don't like a certain actor or actress' performance just because said actor or actress joins the discussion. I realize it's a weird situation where Lex Lang is taking on a new role others have done before him, but that doesn't change the fact that his performance wasn't pleading to some users here, including myself.

If Lex Lang is willing to share some behind the scene information about this dub, he's more than welcome to. But he has absolutely no right to get upset if he doesn't win over every one with his performance. Entertainment is constantly met with critics, good and bad. The moment that needs to be censored, that's when there's a serious problem.
I'm not upset if you are not thrilled with anyone's performances, Including my own. What I find alarming is the degree of judgment that came from many people from just a sneak preview with only 2 or 3 lines of dialog and a few efforts.

Just so everyone is aware what we are going for with the character of Goku is a purity, an innocence, good hearted, cheerful energetic nature, with a love for competition and food, and an underlying ferocity driven by his anger and determination when being challenged or seeking vengeance. You can't please all of the people all of the time, I suppose.
Whoever the ADR director is, they know their Dragon Ball characters. I'm actually really excited to hear this dub now purely on the spirit of the characters being kept from the Japanese. Knowing the great pool of cast in LA at Bang Zoom, I can't wait to hear who gets cast as Vegeta. Let's hope this dub gets a good release in the western world so it doesn't get faded into obscurity.
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Re: Bang Zoom Dragon Ball Super Dub

Post by trunkschan90 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:26 am

Mr. Lang, how many episodes have been dubbed so far?

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Re: Bang Zoom Dragon Ball Super Dub

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:29 am

Well this is an interesting turn of events, Lex Lang has joined the forum.

Good to know, as a previous poster said few voice actors go to the trouble of interacting here so I for one am thankful.

I do hope we all get to see the dub soon so everyone can make a fair judgement on your Goku voice.
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Re: Bang Zoom Dragon Ball Super Dub

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Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:Well this is an interesting turn of events, Lex Lang has joined the forum.

Good to know, as a previous poster said few voice actors go to the trouble of interacting here so I for one am thankful.

I do hope we all get to see the dub soon so everyone can make a fair judgement on your Goku voice.
Sean Schemmel joined here a few years ago, but was chased away by a (now banned) member, not complaining about his performance of Goku, but rather his performance in his cover of Dragon Soul used for the Kai Blu-ray's. I believe that same member chased Sonny Strait of the AnimeNewsNetwork forums when Sonny was looking for feedback on his ADR directing in 'Yuri!!!! on Ice' a month or two ago as well. I can remember other incidents with other voice actors in the past too. I don't imagine forums have the greatest representation among voice actors, people would never have the guts to say the stuff they do at a convention.
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Re: Bang Zoom Dragon Ball Super Dub

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:25 am

NintendoBlaze53 wrote:
Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:Well this is an interesting turn of events, Lex Lang has joined the forum.

Good to know, as a previous poster said few voice actors go to the trouble of interacting here so I for one am thankful.

I do hope we all get to see the dub soon so everyone can make a fair judgement on your Goku voice.
Sean Schemmel joined here a few years ago, but was chased away by a (now banned) member, not complaining about his performance of Goku, but rather his performance in his cover of Dragon Soul used for the Kai Blu-ray's. I believe that same member chased Sonny Strait of the AnimeNewsNetwork forums when Sonny was looking for feedback on his ADR directing in 'Yuri!!!! on Ice' a month or two ago as well. I can remember other incidents with other voice actors in the past too. I don't imagine forums have the greatest representation among voice actors, people would never have the guts to say the stuff they do at a convention.
I'm aware of Schemmel. Wasn't it Penquintruth that started the flame war that made him leave? I sincerely hope people will cut Lang some slack before a similar thing happens.
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Re: Bang Zoom Dragon Ball Super Dub

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NintendoBlaze53 wrote:
Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:Well this is an interesting turn of events, Lex Lang has joined the forum.

Good to know, as a previous poster said few voice actors go to the trouble of interacting here so I for one am thankful.

I do hope we all get to see the dub soon so everyone can make a fair judgement on your Goku voice.
Sean Schemmel joined here a few years ago, but was chased away by a (now banned) member, not complaining about his performance of Goku, but rather his performance in his cover of Dragon Soul used for the Kai Blu-ray's. I believe that same member chased Sonny Strait of the AnimeNewsNetwork forums when Sonny was looking for feedback on his ADR directing in 'Yuri!!!! on Ice' a month or two ago as well. I can remember other incidents with other voice actors in the past too. I don't imagine forums have the greatest representation among voice actors, people would never have the guts to say the stuff they do at a convention.
I'm aware of Schemmel. Wasn't it Penquintruth that started the flame war that made him leave? I sincerely hope people will cut Lang some slack before a similar thing happens.
Bingo. Personally I want to know if Lang remembers anything about dubbing Final Bout almost 2 decades ago now. If anything having Lang as a member of Kanzenshuu is more impressive then most other VA's due to not only voicing Anime. I grew up with Lang in Power Rangers and Crash Bandicoot. And looking at Mr. Lang's roles, he now holds the prestige of voicing Shonen Jumps two biggest icons of the 80's. Goku and Kenshiro.
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Re: Bang Zoom Dragon Ball Super Dub

Post by sangofe » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:06 am

NintendoBlaze53 wrote:
LexVO wrote:
jelleline89 wrote:I don't care if it's Lex Lang, Sean Schemmel, or even Donald Trump. People shouldn't be expected to stay silent if they don't like a certain actor or actress' performance just because said actor or actress joins the discussion. I realize it's a weird situation where Lex Lang is taking on a new role others have done before him, but that doesn't change the fact that his performance wasn't pleading to some users here, including myself.

If Lex Lang is willing to share some behind the scene information about this dub, he's more than welcome to. But he has absolutely no right to get upset if he doesn't win over every one with his performance. Entertainment is constantly met with critics, good and bad. The moment that needs to be censored, that's when there's a serious problem.
I'm not upset if you are not thrilled with anyone's performances, Including my own. What I find alarming is the degree of judgment that came from many people from just a sneak preview with only 2 or 3 lines of dialog and a few efforts.

Just so everyone is aware what we are going for with the character of Goku is a purity, an innocence, good hearted, cheerful energetic nature, with a love for competition and food, and an underlying ferocity driven by his anger and determination when being challenged or seeking vengeance. You can't please all of the people all of the time, I suppose.
Whoever the ADR director is, they know their Dragon Ball characters. I'm actually really excited to hear this dub now purely on the spirit of the characters being kept from the Japanese. Knowing the great pool of cast in LA at Bang Zoom, I can't wait to hear who gets cast as Vegeta. Let's hope this dub gets a good release in the western world so it doesn't get faded into obscurity.
LexVO: Could you please find out if there's any chance for westerners to check out your Dragon Ball Super dub? I personally live in Norway and I'd love to check it out.

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Re: Bang Zoom Dragon Ball Super Dub

Post by VejituhTheWarriorGuy » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:25 am

jelleline89 wrote:I don't care if it's Lex Lang, Sean Schemmel, or even Donald Trump. People shouldn't be expected to stay silent if they don't like a certain actor or actress' performance just because said actor or actress joins the discussion. I realize it's a weird situation where Lex Lang is taking on a new role others have done before him, but that doesn't change the fact that his performance wasn't pleasing to some users here, including myself. It's not the worst I've heard to be honest, but still pretty unsettling.

If Lex Lang is willing to share some behind the scene information about this dub, he's more than welcome to. But he has absolutely no right to get upset if he doesn't win over every one with his performance. Entertainment is constantly met with critics, good and bad. The moment that needs to be censored, that's when there's a serious problem.
Thank you! I am very unsettled by the fact that some members have actually tried to make what me and other members have said look bad even though we have opinions and we've actually said to Lex that we respect him and like him as an actor. I'm not like Penguintruth, I'm not going to lie about my opinions but I'm also not going to be malicious about them
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Re: Bang Zoom Dragon Ball Super Dub

Post by VejituhTheWarriorGuy » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:30 am

LexVO wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote:Lex, one question if you don't mind. Are you allowed to provide information on who are the other cast members?
If I knew more I could, but we work alone, so I haven't "bumped into other cast members"
jelleline89 wrote:I don't care if it's Lex Lang, Sean Schemmel, or even Donald Trump. People shouldn't be expected to stay silent if they don't like a certain actor or actress' performance just because said actor or actress joins the discussion. I realize it's a weird situation where Lex Lang is taking on a new role others have done before him, but that doesn't change the fact that his performance wasn't pleading to some users here, including myself.

If Lex Lang is willing to share some behind the scene information about this dub, he's more than welcome to. But he has absolutely no right to get upset if he doesn't win over every one with his performance. Entertainment is constantly met with critics, good and bad. The moment that needs to be censored, that's when there's a serious problem.
I'm not upset if you are not thrilled with anyone's performances, Including my own. What I find alarming is the degree of judgment that came from many people from just a sneak preview with only 2 or 3 lines of dialog and a few efforts.

Just so everyone is aware what we are going for with the character of Goku is a purity, an innocence, good hearted, cheerful energetic nature, with a love for competition and food, and an underlying ferocity driven by his anger and determination when being challenged or seeking vengeance. You can't please all of the people all of the time, I suppose.
Lex, can you disclose how long you guys have been dubbing the series for and if it ever coincided with FUNimation's dub? By the way, I love your Cortex voice and I'm happy that you've returned in the N.sane trilogy and are getting a chance to redo lines originally done by Clancy Brown
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Re: Bang Zoom Dragon Ball Super Dub

Post by NitroEX » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:00 am

sangofe wrote: LexVO: Could you please find out if there's any chance for westerners to check out your Dragon Ball Super dub? I personally live in Norway and I'd love to check it out.
I'd like to know this too. He mentioned Asia and Europe in his original post which is very intriguing to say the least.
VejituhTheWarriorGuy wrote: Nice of you to misquote me dude, I can respect an actor but be honest when I don't like their role. Lex wasn't sugarcoating what he said so why should I? Look, Lex is a perfectly fine actor but I don't like his Goku voice, it's not like I told the guy to fuck off or anything.
I didn't misquote anything, I quoted your critique, which wasn't even constructive in the least. The same goes for 8000 Saiyan, both your criticisms were the equivalent of saying to Lex "I don't like this" with no further reasons given. That's not being productive and it's certainly not going to change his mind or help him improve.
jelleline89 wrote:I don't care if it's Lex Lang, Sean Schemmel, or even Donald Trump. People shouldn't be expected to stay silent if they don't like a certain actor or actress' performance just because said actor or actress joins the discussion. I realize it's a weird situation where Lex Lang is taking on a new role others have done before him, but that doesn't change the fact that his performance wasn't pleasing to some users here, including myself. It's not the worst I've heard to be honest, but still pretty unsettling.
Such a gross misunderstanding of what I said. This isn't about sugar coating or treating the guy with kid gloves, we have the voice of Bang Zoom's Goku involved in the discussion, the least you could do is not be totally vague in your criticisms directed towards him. What is "unsettling" supposed to mean in this context? I certainly have no idea and most likely, neither does Lex. All you're doing is just needlessly throwing stones at the guy. At least be constructive.

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Re: Bang Zoom Dragon Ball Super Dub

Post by jelleline89 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:43 am

NitroEX wrote:Such a gross misunderstanding of what I said. This isn't about sugar coating or treating the guy with kid gloves, we have the voice of Bang Zoom's Goku involved in the discussion, the least you could do is not be totally vague in your criticisms directed towards him. What is "unsettling" supposed to mean in this context? I certainly have no idea and most likely, neither does Lex. All you're doing is just needlessly throwing stones at the guy. At least be constructive.
I never once said it was a direct response to what you said, did I? Hell, I didn't even reply to your comment with that response so I don't know where you're getting this idea that I'm misunderstanding what you said. I wrote that in response to all the people who were supporting Lang in the notion that anyone not fawning over the performance were just automatically ignorant and hating.

I understand it was only a short clip of him, but that's all we have of him. No one bothered to share anything from the Toonami Asia sneak peek back in December, so unless that changes when it actually premieres, all we have to judge him is with that short clip.

If I was too vague with saying "unsettling", I'll explain. I found it unsettling to hear this take of Goku compared to the other versions we have heard, not just Schemmel's. Again, not the worst possible take, but not one I found to be great. He can still improve it, yes, but unless we actually get to hear it, we can never properly analyze it the way we want to.

I want Lang to stay here to, but if we could get less volatile reactions from both sides, that'd be great.

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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:41 pm

On a vaguely-related note, I don't know if this has been posted in this thread yet or not, but another trailer was posted on YouTube on Christmas Eve, and we get to hear a super-short clip (from which, as I hope we've established now, we can't make any judgements for better or worse) of Beerus.
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Re: Bang Zoom Dragon Ball Super Dub

Post by LexVO » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:48 pm

trunkschan90 wrote:Mr. Lang, how many episodes have been dubbed so far?
we are working on episode 10 right now.
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Re: Bang Zoom Dragon Ball Super Dub

Post by LexVO » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:49 pm

sangofe wrote:
NintendoBlaze53 wrote:
LexVO wrote:
I'm not upset if you are not thrilled with anyone's performances, Including my own. What I find alarming is the degree of judgment that came from many people from just a sneak preview with only 2 or 3 lines of dialog and a few efforts.

Just so everyone is aware what we are going for with the character of Goku is a purity, an innocence, good hearted, cheerful energetic nature, with a love for competition and food, and an underlying ferocity driven by his anger and determination when being challenged or seeking vengeance. You can't please all of the people all of the time, I suppose.
Whoever the ADR director is, they know their Dragon Ball characters. I'm actually really excited to hear this dub now purely on the spirit of the characters being kept from the Japanese. Knowing the great pool of cast in LA at Bang Zoom, I can't wait to hear who gets cast as Vegeta. Let's hope this dub gets a good release in the western world so it doesn't get faded into obscurity.
LexVO: Could you please find out if there's any chance for westerners to check out your Dragon Ball Super dub? I personally live in Norway and I'd love to check it out.
I believe Norway falls under the Europe broadcast.

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Post by wjbraden » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:56 pm

LexVO wrote:
trunkschan90 wrote:Mr. Lang, how many episodes have been dubbed so far?
we are working on episode 10 right now.
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Glad to hear the dub is making good progress. Thanks for the information Mr. Lang. :)

I know you are being bombarded with question right now, but is the Opening for your dub going to be covered in English?

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Re: Bang Zoom Dragon Ball Super Dub

Post by sangofe » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:09 am

LexVO wrote:
sangofe wrote:
NintendoBlaze53 wrote: Whoever the ADR director is, they know their Dragon Ball characters. I'm actually really excited to hear this dub now purely on the spirit of the characters being kept from the Japanese. Knowing the great pool of cast in LA at Bang Zoom, I can't wait to hear who gets cast as Vegeta. Let's hope this dub gets a good release in the western world so it doesn't get faded into obscurity.
LexVO: Could you please find out if there's any chance for westerners to check out your Dragon Ball Super dub? I personally live in Norway and I'd love to check it out.
I believe Norway falls under the Europe broadcast.
Norway's in Europe but we never had any Dragon Ball anime on TV over here.

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Post by G1Ravage » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:08 am

This isn't the first time a Dragon Ball property has been dubbed into English by a California studio. Although we in America can't really see this Bang Zoom dub intended for the Asian markets, it's a lot of fun to see clips, and to hear a different take on the characters we've heard dubbed not only in Texas, but Vancouver as well, over the past 20 years.

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Re: Bang Zoom Dragon Ball Super Dub

Post by VejituhTheWarriorGuy » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:22 am

LexVO wrote:
trunkschan90 wrote:Mr. Lang, how many episodes have been dubbed so far?
we are working on episode 10 right now.
:)
Who is the director of the dub? And when you mean Europe, does that mean that if any country in Europe were to broadcaat an English dub of the show, it would be the Bang Zoom one? Also, I think it's pretty cool how we guessed that you were voicing Goku based off that clip and it turned out to be true
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Post by jelleline89 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:44 pm

Small update on the matter of seeing this outside of Asia.

I have located someone able to record it, though it will be with their cell phone camera. Better than nothing I suppose. I realize it isn't ideal so hopefully we can help upgrade their equipment before the 21st.

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Post by DBZ_Lee » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:04 am

I am now able to shed a little light on this dub. It is the property of Turner Networks, and therefor, if any Turner owned station wishes to use it in the EMEA (Europe, Middle East & Africa) region, they will be welcome to do so.

This will be the dub that airs on Cartoon Network Africa later this year.
Because there aren't many other English speaking territories in the region, they may want to use this dub to help them translate into their native language.

No Turner Channel has picked the show up for UK broadcast (if they had have done so, it would have been this dub).
Although the dub is owned by Turner, in theory, they can sublicense it out if other Networks requested to use it.

Before anyone asks, this information was given to me by a reliable source from Turner Asia.

I assume Funimation also hold the same right to license their dub out anywhere, as their dub isn't owned by any specific Network.

There is still hope for any non-Turner owned Network within the EMEA region to air Funi's.

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