Opinions on Jiren?

[BrolyKale]

Why do people hate Jiren because he has no personality? is there a law against characters who have no personality? I mean, what's the big deal? Kale does have a personality but that doesn't make her interesting at all, Jiren even if he doesn't talk much I find him more interesting and mysterious than U6 Saiyans. His design is very simple but that doesn't make him bad at all, Hit's design is also simple yet there are a lot of people who love him because "his techniques are cool"... seriously

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

I find him unnecesarily stoic, he makes Hit look interesting by comparison and him being too powerful is a bit overplayed.

[BrolyKale]

How so? Hit is as bland as Jiren...

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Why do people hate Jiren because he has no personality? is there a law against characters who have no personality? I mean, what's the big deal? Kale does have a personality but that doesn't make her interesting at all, Jiren even if he doesn't talk much I find him more interesting and mysterious than U6 Saiyans. His design is very simple but that doesn't make him bad at all, Hit's design is also simple yet there are a lot of people who love him because "his techniques are cool"... seriously

It is funny, people are hating on Jiren because he has no "personalty" while some of those same people are hating on Ribrianne because she has too much of a "personality". It is like what do people want?

[SansrivaaL]

Why do people hate Jiren because he has no personality? is there a law against characters who have no personality? I mean, what's the big deal? Kale does have a personality but that doesn't make her interesting at all, Jiren even if he doesn't talk much I find him more interesting and mysterious than U6 Saiyans. His design is very simple but that doesn't make him bad at all, Hit's design is also simple yet there are a lot of people who love him because "his techniques are cool"... seriously

It is funny, people are hating on Jiren because he has no "personalty" while some of those same people are hating on Ribrianne because she has too much of a "personality". It is like what do people want?

You basically answered why people are like that, people hate Jiren because he lacks personality while some others hate Ribriane because she has too much of it, you know the saying ''too much of anything is bad''? keep things in moderation, and another thing about Ribriane is.. her dialogues are cringe as fuck even for me who watches a lot of anime, they're taking the joke about love,friendship,hope too damn far its absurd, to answer your question on what do people want, dont do cringe/boring/repetitive shit.

[BrolyKale]

I don't care if Jiren has a personnality or not, it wouldn't change anything about the character, he'd still be OP as hell because reasons. Jiren is not a bad character at all, he does his job very well, a tough enemy, that's what he is.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Why do people hate Jiren because he has no personality? is there a law against characters who have no personality? I mean, what's the big deal? Kale does have a personality but that doesn't make her interesting at all, Jiren even if he doesn't talk much I find him more interesting and mysterious than U6 Saiyans. His design is very simple but that doesn't make him bad at all, Hit's design is also simple yet there are a lot of people who love him because "his techniques are cool"... seriously

It is funny, people are hating on Jiren because he has no "personalty" while some of those same people are hating on Ribrianne because she has too much of a "personality". It is like what do people want?

You basically answered why people are like that, people hate Jiren because he lacks personality while some others hate Ribriane because she has too much of it, you know the saying ''too much of anything is bad''? keep things in moderation, and another thing about Ribriane is.. her dialogues are cringe as fuck even for me who watches a lot of anime, they're taking the joke about love,friendship,hope too damn far its absurd, to answer your question on what do people want, dont do cringe/boring/repetitive shit.

They aren't taking it far. She is obsessed with love yes but she's fighting for her ideals, I don't see the issue with her at all especially when they've had Goku being a fight obsessed idiot for like ever. To the point plot points literally hinge on it.
As for Jiren he hasn't shown much personality but neither has the likes Piccolo in this tournament, if I were just tuning into this tournament with no prior knowledge of the franchise I'd be struggling to tell you what this character Piccolo is about, same for Gohan too. They've been incredibly boring this tournament.

[BrolyKale]

It is funny, people are hating on Jiren because he has no "personalty" while some of those same people are hating on Ribrianne because she has too much of a "personality". It is like what do people want?

You basically answered why people are like that, people hate Jiren because he lacks personality while some others hate Ribriane because she has too much of it, you know the saying ''too much of anything is bad''? keep things in moderation, and another thing about Ribriane is.. her dialogues are cringe as fuck even for me who watches a lot of anime, they're taking the joke about love,friendship,hope too damn far its absurd, to answer your question on what do people want, dont do cringe/boring/repetitive shit.

They aren't taking it far. She is obsessed with love yes but she's fighting for her ideals, I don't see the issue with her at all especially when they've had Goku being a fight obsessed idiot for like ever. To the point plot points literally hinge on it.
As for Jiren he hasn't shown much personality but neither has the likes Piccolo in this tournament, if I were just tuning into this tournament with no prior knowledge of the franchise I'd be struggling to tell you what this character Piccolo is about, same for Gohan too. They've been incredibly boring this tournament.

True! Couldn't agree more, you guys really need to give him some time, I'm sure we will learn more about him at the end of the tournament.

[The gr]

[True! Couldn't agree more, you guys really need to give him some time, I'm sure we will learn more about him at the end of the tournament.

Which is why i gave jiren and brianne a chance,i think everyone deserve a chance so I'm patiently waiting for their character arc to be over

[BWri]

It is funny, people are hating on Jiren because he has no "personalty" while some of those same people are hating on Ribrianne because she has too much of a "personality". It is like what do people want?

You basically answered why people are like that, people hate Jiren because he lacks personality while some others hate Ribriane because she has too much of it, you know the saying ''too much of anything is bad''? keep things in moderation, and another thing about Ribriane is.. her dialogues are cringe as fuck even for me who watches a lot of anime, they're taking the joke about love,friendship,hope too damn far its absurd, to answer your question on what do people want, dont do cringe/boring/repetitive shit.

They aren't taking it far. She is obsessed with love yes but she's fighting for her ideals, I don't see the issue with her at all especially when they've had Goku being a fight obsessed idiot for like ever. To the point plot points literally hinge on it.
As for Jiren he hasn't shown much personality but neither has the likes Piccolo in this tournament, if I were just tuning into this tournament with no prior knowledge of the franchise I'd be struggling to tell you what this character Piccolo is about, same for Gohan too. They've been incredibly boring this tournament.

Don't forget Tien in that boring group ... oh wait, you already did lol. But the difference here is that those characters you mentioned already had tons of personality as soon as they were introduced. Jiren is the first antagonist to have gone this long without much of a personality being shown. On a side note, I love Ribrianne any time she's on screen. She brings a lot of life into the show. I would like to clearly know how strong she is though and how she got her strength. Still hoping her magical transformation is somehow due to a majin.

[BrolyKale]

For me a character doesn't need a personality to be interesting. Kale and Ribrianne have their own personality but like I said that doesn't make them interesting or good anyway. I personally find Jiren more interesting than Kale or Ribrianne or Caulifla or Cabba.

[SansrivaaL]

They aren't taking it far. She is obsessed with love yes but she's fighting for her ideals, I don't see the issue with her at all especially when they've had Goku being a fight obsessed idiot for like ever. To the point plot points literally hinge on it.
As for Jiren he hasn't shown much personality but neither has the likes Piccolo in this tournament, if I were just tuning into this tournament with no prior knowledge of the franchise I'd be struggling to tell you what this character Piccolo is about, same for Gohan too. They've been incredibly boring this tournament.

"She is obsessed with love yes" then they are taking it too far. Goku despite his obsession towards fighting isnt the only thing he brings on the table, Ribrianne on the other hand is the same everytime she shows up its all about love,friendship,hope and do remember this is a shonen battle story so Goku being an obsessed idiot when it comes to fighting is good, bring that to a shoujo manga and people will most likely hate him, Ribrianne doest fit in DB for a lot of people because of what she brings, we aint a fan of love,friendship and hope, seriously, its cringe for a show like DB, it brings nothing besides stupid gag that isnt even funny anymore, I admit the first time it was fun, but they are pushing it.

Well yeah, do you see people interested in what Piccolo will do besides his fans and a few? the kids who just got into DBS probably doesnt even care about Piccolo and Gohan at all, the talks are about Goku,Freeza,Vegeta and recently Roshi in this arc, as for the reason why Piccolo isnt getting hate is because the people here in Kanzenshuu are.. pretty well informed about DB as a whole, we know Piccolo's backstory so no hate blooms but rather just neutrality, Jiren on the other hand has nothing, no background, no personality, no interactions besides his 1 liners of "Owarida, Doke" I was actually amazed when he did more than 3 lines at the GD scene, but yeah just because I dont like Jiren doesnt mean I'm not willing to give him a chance when he comes out again, I'd be glad to be wrong if his stoic gig has a deep meaning to it.

[Kataphrut]

The difference in reception to Jiren and Ribrianne is a fascinating thing. On the face of it, Ribrianne is colourful, dynamic, energetic and fun while Jiren is...none of those things. And yet, everyone who watched 109 grimaced through her portion of the fight and perked up once he stepped in. That doesn't mean he's a better character than her, he's simply not. But, he is a character who is well-utilized for the role he has, while Ribrianne was an entertaining gag character that was poorly handled by being booked against guys above her station. At least with Vegeta and 17 there was a) ambiguity about how well she could do against them and b) a fun contrast between her personality and the stoic men she was fighting. Neither of those things are there for Goku, so her fight with him felt like a waste of time. Meanwhile, Jiren is not only a powerful matchup for Goku but there is a contrast between their two attitudes which is worth exploring.

Episode 111 was nowhere near as good as the special for a number of reasons, but it did give us some new wrinkles to both characters. Ribrianne got a rare moment of vulnerability and interaction with her team mate which was nice to see. Meanwhile, Jiren was more animated here than he was throughout the entire special, which is ironic given the weaker animation budget. He had more interaction with Hit, his teammates, expressed opinions about the people he was dealing with. Slowly but surely, they're building a personality for this guy.

[JazzMazz]

For me, Jiren's basically just a blander, less interesting version of Kaioh, whose less interesting version of Raoh from Hokuto No Ken.

He has the potential to be cool, and the scenario's his been in so far do remind of those of Raoh and Kaioh, but instead of adding to them like the aforementioned characters did with cool dialogue, Jiren detracts from due to his complete lack of dialogue.

[fadeddreams5]

Why do people hate Jiren because he has no personality? is there a law against characters who have no personality? I mean, what's the big deal? Kale does have a personality but that doesn't make her interesting at all, Jiren even if he doesn't talk much I find him more interesting and mysterious than U6 Saiyans. His design is very simple but that doesn't make him bad at all, Hit's design is also simple yet there are a lot of people who love him because "his techniques are cool"... seriously

Severe unoriginality. Pikkon and Hit did it before. Both were more interesting. This character type is overused in other anime too.

Additionally, his design is soooo bland too. He's just uninteresting to look at.

As an obstacle, he's interesting, but what if several arcs from now, he's nowhere near Goku's level. Strip this character of his brute strength, and what are we left with? Hit has his whole time schitckt and assassin background. He's cool no matter how weak he becomes in comparison.

[BrolyKale]

Why do people hate Jiren because he has no personality? is there a law against characters who have no personality? I mean, what's the big deal? Kale does have a personality but that doesn't make her interesting at all, Jiren even if he doesn't talk much I find him more interesting and mysterious than U6 Saiyans. His design is very simple but that doesn't make him bad at all, Hit's design is also simple yet there are a lot of people who love him because "his techniques are cool"... seriously

Severe unoriginality. Pikkon and Hit did it before. Both were more interesting. This character type is overused in other anime too.

Additionally, his design is soooo bland too. He's just uninteresting to look at.

As an obstacle, he's interesting, but what if several arcs from now, he's nowhere near Goku's level. Strip this character of his brute strength, and what are we left with? Hit has his whole time schitckt and assassin background. He's cool no matter how weak he becomes in comparison.

Why saying he is uninteresting when we don't even know anything about him?

[fadeddreams5]

Why do people hate Jiren because he has no personality? is there a law against characters who have no personality? I mean, what's the big deal? Kale does have a personality but that doesn't make her interesting at all, Jiren even if he doesn't talk much I find him more interesting and mysterious than U6 Saiyans. His design is very simple but that doesn't make him bad at all, Hit's design is also simple yet there are a lot of people who love him because "his techniques are cool"... seriously

Severe unoriginality. Pikkon and Hit did it before. Both were more interesting. This character type is overused in other anime too.

Additionally, his design is soooo bland too. He's just uninteresting to look at.

As an obstacle, he's interesting, but what if several arcs from now, he's nowhere near Goku's level. Strip this character of his brute strength, and what are we left with? Hit has his whole time schitckt and assassin background. He's cool no matter how weak he becomes in comparison.

Why saying he is uninteresting when we don't even know anything about him?

It's been many episodes, including a climax, and he's still not shown anything interesting besides his power. I don't expect a backstory to change that, which is doubtful we'll get. Hit and Cabba don't even have backstories besides being an assassin and saiyan, respectively. We don't know anything about any of the U6 fighters, and they're all more interesting. Toppo is more interesting.

[BrolyKale]

...Hit is interesting because he is an assassin? ok... what makes Toppo more interesting than Jiren? they are the same... Toppo just talks a little bit more but that's it. At least Jiren wants to make a wish, he has a motivation, Toppo? nothing... he is just there to fight alongside Jiren.

[SonReggie]

Am becoming more and more convinced that the personality-free obstacle that is Jiren is genetically engineered or something. Am willing to wager that he was quite strong in the first place and Belmond has transferred his power to Jiren. This could go some way toward explaining Jiren being so OP and being able to use Ultra Instinct (or something similar to it). Belmond also seems confident to the point of being absolutely convinced Jiren can't lose.

And Belmond wants to retire* so.....

*and yes, I know it was indicated that he'd chosen Toppo as a successor, but that could easily be a tactic to throw everyone off the scent.

[MaskedRider]

Here is my hot take on Jiren since seeing episode 111

I want more of this guy, at this point I don't care if it to be a backstory or him simply walking to a different location with internal monologue, Jiren is awesome and what sealed the deal for me with that was when he crushed Hit's spirit as Hit is seen throwing a flurry of punches in desperation after his special move is crushed in front of his eyes ("The moment I couldn't end it in one hit, my loss was confirmed." as he says to Champa looking down with eyes wide open in shock) I like Hit and he is just as cool as the mysterious Jiren, what I would separate the two by is that Jiren is a monster. Hit is an assassin, when he has work, work comes first and his style is based off of his career which is neat and he focuses on nothing but work but when he doesn't have work? It was shown he has the same heart as Goku when it comes to martial arts. Jiren is scary not only because of his strength but because of what impact his being has on an individual. How is someone like Cabba, for example, supposed to feel about himself and his shot at survival when he witnessed Hit, the leadership of this wolf pack, shot out of bounds? It makes me think, "How are the characters I care about going to get out of this slippery banana?"

Jiren is also different than the rest of the pride troopers and that is interesting, Toppo for example - Toppo would stop Goku because of his ideals of justice and his belief that Goku is evil; Jiren? Jiren doesn't look like he cares as seen when he meditates knowing that there is nobody worthy of fighting. Jiren goes to step on Goku's back when he is down, grab his hair to bring him up, violently swing him around and insult Hit's passion of his profession. Its the little things as I always say, its why I love Dio in Phantom Blood despite being very...eh...generic because he has that over the top-ness to him that gives him the extra OOMPH that makes him loved by many.

I may be unawaringly stretching it but this is how I felt for some time after the episode. I just don't know how to be convinced that Jiren isn't amazing. Sure, there are many other characters with his reserved attitude but I'm sure I could like those characters too, just because Jonathan Joestar is heavily based on Kenshiro doesn't mean I have to dislike him now because, "Oh he's obviously another muscle dude of his time."

Jiren's design is bland though but that is the least of my thoughts on Jiren and doesn't bring him down for me. Its grown on me where I couldn't imagine Jiren looking any other way.