Olympian wrote:The ep was awesome and it shall be remembered as the Super Saiyan burn in the halls of eternity now. Between Cabba getting done fast and Vegeta getting roasted by the Troopers, they need a lot of ice to recover from this one.
You know what? Glad the ladies are still kicking and the Namekians are getting screen time against Piccolo and Gohan, no less.
What does Vegeta have to recover from? It was a funny line from Toppo but it is only in fans exaggerated minds that Vegeta was that upset over it. At most he was a little peeved in typical Vegeta fashion lol.
That`s what actually makes it funny and you know Fandom always exagerattes. Let me have some karma here
Kinokima wrote:Anyways since obviously Vegeta/Toppo is not part of an upcoming episode (unless it’s 116) probably nothing will come out of the fight. I actually would have been interested to see them truly go toe to toe. Toppo is plenty strong so Vegeta being on par with him is definitely not a bad thing.
At this point I`m not sure they are on par. Jiren is stronger than Beerus and Toppo isn`t that far off. I think the distance between Vegeta and Beerus is larger.
Cipher wrote:Freeza versus Cabba climaxed a little underwhelmingly, but between the script and especially the use of music at the end of the episode, this week marks the first time Super has had four good episodes in a row.
I reckon the show has already done this back in the Future Trunks arc with Episode 47 to 50.
ekrolo2 wrote:So fighting helps you recover stamina you lost previously from lots of stressful fighting. Oh and so does SS3, that thing that used to burn you out like a mother fucker.
Ah, Super.
Going SSJ3 gives confidence to Goku, he can look in the mirror and feel better about himself knowing he has a beautiful and luscious bush of hair, healing and appearing in the cover of magazines follows. Holistic Medicine my friend.
Olympian wrote:
That`s what actually makes it funny and you know Fandom always exagerattes. Let me have some karma here
Well at least you admit the exaggeration. Just some fans are taking it a bit too far to bash Vegeta
But I admit it was funny & a great line. I laughed too.
At this point I`m not sure they are on par. Jiren is stronger than Beerus and Toppo isn`t that far off. I think the distance between Vegeta and Beerus is larger.
Toppo seemed close to Goku Blue (at least in the anime don’t know about the manga) and whereas Vegeta may be weaker than Goku I think he could still take Toppo.
I definitely don’t think he could take Jiren that is obvious but even if Toppo was slightly stronger than Vegeta that doesn’t mean Vegeta couldn’t win in a fight against him. Anyways I think they are more evenly matched than you think and if it occurred it could be a good fight. I just think the fight is bound to not actually fully happen.
Lord Beerus wrote:
- I continue love Caulifa more and more she appear. She just oozes charisma with how confident and commanding she is. And her realising just how she is (A Saiyan) after watching Goku and Jiren battle and believing she can still get much, much stronger was a really nice moment. I've said this before but Caulilfa really does feel like a like a hybrid of Kid Goku and Post Majin Boo arc Vegeta, with how enthusiastic, energetic and zealous she is towards scenarios as well as how how self-assured, cocky and bold she is. Her personality is really well balanced.
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lord beerus posting his opinion on the episode this soon I agree in spite of my issue with her character she is still a fun character and feels like a saiyan can't say the same for kale,they better not overuse the broly homage next week
I decided to catch the episode subbed on Crunchyroll and do a review of it before I went to bed.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
As for Vegeta - he may overestimate himself and his strength as usual but in addition to that I think people are also sleeping on him. And that's kinda sad.
ekrolo2 wrote:So fighting helps you recover stamina you lost previously from lots of stressful fighting. Oh and so does SS3, that thing that used to burn you out like a mother fucker.
Ah, Super.
Sorry, I'm a little bit out of the loop here but where is the indication that Goku is going to use SSJ3 in the next episode?
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
ekrolo2 wrote:So fighting helps you recover stamina you lost previously from lots of stressful fighting. Oh and so does SS3, that thing that used to burn you out like a mother fucker.
Ah, Super.
Sorry, I'm a little bit out of the loop here but where is the indication that Goku is going to use SSJ3 in the next episode?
NEP Goku says he's gonna use SS3, although it was never shown in the NEP.
Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:
Cipher wrote:Freeza versus Cabba climaxed a little underwhelmingly, but between the script and especially the use of music at the end of the episode, this week marks the first time Super has had four good episodes in a row.
I reckon the show has already done this back in the Future Trunks arc with Episode 47 to 50.
ekrolo2 wrote:So fighting helps you recover stamina you lost previously from lots of stressful fighting. Oh and so does SS3, that thing that used to burn you out like a mother fucker.
Ah, Super.
That's exactly what I was saying. I need to recover energy to save my universe, but let me show you the most strenuous transformation I have. I'm hoping he won't have the stamina to do it and just sticks to SSJ.
Draconic wrote:
Namekiaaaaaaans! Hopefully they get their own episode down the line. Fuck Gohan for not helping Goku. Those are Piccolo's enemies, cunt. .
Piccolo was about to be chopped in half...
Gohan knows Goku needs no help..
When Piccolo told Gohan to help Goku I got the excited at the thought of Piccolo vs Saonel and Pilina. Toei just did that on purpose just to annoy me didn't they?
Okay, I just caught the extended NEP and here's my take on it:
I think Goku saying he's going to show SSJ3 to Caulifla and Kale will be a red herring. Freeza states he going to "play" with the rest of Cabba's Saiyan friends (Kale and Caulifla) because he hates Saiyan, so I think just before Goku goes SSJ3, Freeza will interfere, remonstrate Goku for wasting his stamina, especially since it was Freeza that gave him the energy, and just kick Caulifla's and Kale's arses.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Lord Beerus wrote:Okay, I just caught the extended NEP and here's my take on it:
I think Goku saying he's going to show SSJ3 to Caulifla and Kale will be a red herring. Freeza states he going to "play" with the rest of Cabba's Saiyan friends (Kale and Caulifla) because he hates Saiyan, so I think just before Goku goes SSJ3, Freeza will interfere, remonstrate Goku for wasting his stamina, especially since it was Freeza that gave him the energy, and just kick Caulifla's and Kale's arses.
That sounds too good to be true.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
Draconic wrote:
Namekiaaaaaaans! Hopefully they get their own episode down the line. Fuck Gohan for not helping Goku. Those are Piccolo's enemies, cunt. .
Piccolo was about to be chopped in half...
Gohan knows Goku needs no help..
When Piccolo told Gohan to help Goku I got the excited at the thought of Piccolo vs Saonel and Pilina. Toei just did that on purpose just to annoy me didn't they?
I think it will be healthiest for our own piece of mind to accept the fact that it's going to be Piccolo/Gohan all the way as long as Piccolo is still in the ring. Gohan is going to get his solo performance at some point, I'm sure of that, but Piccolo probably wont. The recruitment episodes pretty much hinted at this. Let's make the best of what we've got
So do people actually want a battle royale, or do they want their favorite characters to all fight alone? I don't see the point in having Gohan seperate from Piccolo when it's well established that they work well together.
Lord Beerus wrote:Okay, I just caught the extended NEP and here's my take on it:
I think Goku saying he's going to show SSJ3 to Caulifla and Kale will be a red herring. Freeza states he going to "play" with the rest of Cabba's Saiyan friends (Kale and Caulifla) because he hates Saiyan, so I think just before Goku goes SSJ3, Freeza will interfere, remonstrate Goku for wasting his stamina, especially since it was Freeza that gave him the energy, and just kick Caulifla's and Kale's arses.
That sounds too good to be true.
With how well written Freeza has been since he came back to life for the Tournament Of Power, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility for that scenario to happen.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Olympian wrote:
That`s what actually makes it funny and you know Fandom always exagerattes. Let me have some karma here
Well at least you admit the exaggeration. Just some fans are taking it a bit too far to bash Vegeta
But I admit it was funny & a great line. I laughed too.
I never miss a shot to poke fun at Fandom in general.
Kinokima wrote:Toppo seemed close to Goku Blue (at least in the anime don’t know about the manga) and whereas Vegeta may be weaker than Goku I think he could still take Toppo.
I definitely don’t think he could take Jiren that is obvious but even if Toppo was slightly stronger than Vegeta that doesn’t mean Vegeta couldn’t win in a fight against him. Anyways I think they are more evenly matched than you think and if it occurred it could be a good fight. I just think the fight is bound to not actually fully happen.
Wouldn`t mind watching that fight, maybe later on. I just think even the Vegita and Beerus fight we`ve had was more on the Saiyan lashing out than Beerus crying uncle. But about Toppo, I frankly I don`t want to see Goku taking on the two. Let him be the one to win or lose against Jiren but someone else take 2nd best Troopper down.
Kinokima wrote:Isn’t Goku, Kale, and Caulifla featured in 114 too? In this case I don’t think Freeza will interfere.
I wouldn't trust that preview as episode 113 mentions the robots but that happened in episode 112 so I think that line from the summary for epside 114 could be a recap and they also done the same thing with Jimeze for episode 109 even though he was out in episodes 108.
Michsi wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
Piccolo was about to be chopped in half...
Gohan knows Goku needs no help..
When Piccolo told Gohan to help Goku I got the excited at the thought of Piccolo vs Saonel and Pilina. Toei just did that on purpose just to annoy me didn't they?
I think it will be healthiest for our own piece of mind to accept the fact that it's going to be Piccolo/Gohan all the way as long as Piccolo is still in the ring. Gohan is going to get his solo performance at some point, I'm sure of that, but Piccolo probably wont. The recruitment episodes pretty much hinted at this. Let's make the best of what we've got
I am going to say that Piccolo vs Soanel will become a solo fight.
MajinMan wrote:So do people actually want a battle royale, or do they want their favorite characters to all fight alone? I don't see the point in having Gohan seperate from Piccolo when it's well established that they work well together.
Everyone else gets solo fights so why can't Gohan and Piccolo? Most of us would be happy with just 1 good solo fight for Piccolo and Gohan and then they can fight together for the rest of the tournament.
MajinMan wrote:So do people actually want a battle royale, or do they want their favorite characters to all fight alone? I don't see the point in having Gohan seperate from Piccolo when it's well established that they work well together.
Everyone else gets solo fights so why can't Gohan and Piccolo? Most of us would be happy with just 1 good solo fight for Piccolo and Gohan and then they can fight together for the rest of the tournament.
They already had solo fights. In fact, Gohan has had about 3 solo fights. One against Botamo, another with Obuni, and one with the Yardrat. Piccolo took out the dreadlocks guy all by himself with no help. So they both technically had their solo fights already.
I agree in spite of my issue with her character she is still a fun character and feels like a saiyan can't say the same for kale,they better not overuse the broly homage next week
