The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:53 pm

Friezacooler wrote:Mystic Gohan vs SSJ 2 teen Gohan, or SSJ 2 teen Gohan vs BoG SSj2 Vegeta?
Ultimate Gohan >>>>> SSJ2 Vegeta (BoG) >> SSJ2 Teen Gohan
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Post by fadeddreams5 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:05 pm

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Friezacooler wrote:Mystic Gohan vs SSJ 2 teen Gohan, or SSJ 2 teen Gohan vs BoG SSj2 Vegeta?
Ultimate Gohan >>>>> SSJ2 Vegeta (BoG) >> SSJ2 Teen Gohan
SSJ2 Vegeta (Rage boost) > Ultimate Gohan

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:07 pm

Possibly... although I don't really like giving Vegeta a 383.33x rage boost.... maybe he made gains between Buu arc and BoG...
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Friezacooler » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:56 pm

Since adult Gohan was weaker than SSJ 2 teen Gohan, shouldn't Mystic Gohan be nearly on par with SSJ 2 teen Gohan. since nothing indicates power difference or how much one is stronger then the other. Regarding Beerus solar system statement, BOG Vegeta possibly isn't far of from SSJ 2 Gohan as it would take Beerus full power to achieve that feat I guess.
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Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:03 am

Friezacooler wrote:Since adult Gohan was weaker than SSJ 2 teen Gohan, shouldn't Mystic Gohan be nearly on par with SSJ 2 teen Gohan. since nothing indicates power difference or how much one is stronger then the other. Regarding Beerus solar system statement, BOG Vegeta possibly isn't far of from SSJ 2 Gohan as it would take Beerus full power to achieve that feat I guess.
Majin Vegeta and SSJ2 Goku are stated to be STRONGER than Gohan when he fought Cell. Majin Vegeta got curbstomped by Fat Buu. SSJ3 Goku could have beaten Fat Buu. SSJ3 Gotenks, who is significantly stronger, fought evenly with Super Buu. Mystic Gohan absolutely whupped Super Buu in a one-sided showdown.

So Mystic Gohan > Super Buu = SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku > Fat Buu > Majin Vegeta = SSJ2 Goku > SSJ2 Teen Gohan.

BoG Vegeta is likely stronger than Majin Vegeta, as a long time has passed since then and he's continued to train, so again, stronger than SSJ2 Gohan. And with rage boost, he is stated to be greater than SSJ3 Goku.
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Post by Bullza » Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:54 am

Android 20 vs Frieza 100%
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:01 am

Bullza wrote:Android 20 vs Freeza 100%
One-shot I'm afraid. Poor Freeza.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Super SaiyaJon » Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:30 am

SSJ4 Gotenks (Buu arc) vs Buuhan

Vegetto (Saiyan Arc) vs Freeza
What is the highest form (or % of final form) Vegetto can handle?
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Post by Rocketman » Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:33 am

Super SaiyaJon wrote:Vegetto (Saiyan Arc) vs Freeza
What is the highest form (or % of final form) Vegetto can handle?
Base Vegetto would be roughly the same strength as Super Saiyan Goku.
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Post by singsing » Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:35 am

Super SaiyaJon wrote:SSJ4 Gotenks (Buu arc) vs Buuhan

Vegetto (Saiyan Arc) vs Freeza
What is the highest form (or % of final form) Vegetto can handle?
Gotenks roflstomps Buu.

If you go off that Goku x Vegeta which shouldn't work so early on in the Saiyan arc, Vegetto clears Freeza.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by In Brightest Day » Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:34 am

Bullza wrote:Android 20 vs Freeza 100%
It basically depends on how Freeza fights. Gero is at a sizeable disadvantage initially but could hold out long enough if Freeza imploys his usual strategy of toying with his opponent. His 100% form would be draining him quickly which may not lead to him frantically firing off large AOE's, and that would be the absolute worst thing he could possibly do.

Anyway, Freeza would take it if he plays it smart and finishes it early purely with physical attacks.
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:40 am

Super SaiyaJon wrote:SSJ4 Gotenks (Buu arc) vs Buuhan

Vegetto (Saiyan Arc) vs Freeza
What is the highest form (or % of final form) Vegetto can handle?
Gotenks possibly stomps Buu

Vegetto probably wins against 100% Freeza. It's Vegetto.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:16 pm

Bullza wrote:Android 20 vs Freeza 100%
Unless Freeza gaves him energy from ki blasts or himself, he can take this.


Goku (23rd Budokai) vs. Chi-Chi (Boo Saga); There Goku would have no feelings towards Chi-Chi.

Yamuhan (Namek Saga) vs. Krillin (Cell Games)
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:29 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Goku (23rd Budokai) vs. Chi-Chi (Boo Saga); There Goku would have no feelings towards Chi-Chi.
Goku wins.
Yamuhan (Namek Saga) vs. Krillin (Cell Games)
Assuming this is a metamoran fusion of Yamcha and Tenshinhan, Krillin wins, if it's a potara fusion, I think 'Yamuhan' wins.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:40 pm

Friezacooler wrote:Mystic Gohan vs SSJ 2 teen Gohan, or SSJ 2 teen Gohan vs BoG SSj2 Vegeta?
Mystic Gohan stomps everyone in his path
Bullza wrote:Android 20 vs Freeza 100%
Android 20 one shots
SSJ4 Gotenks (Buu arc) vs Buuhan
Buuhan roflstomps Gotenks.
Vegetto (Saiyan Arc) vs Freeza
Freeza stomps.
What is the highest form (or % of final form) Vegetto can handle?
Vegetto could handle any form, really. He's practically made of magic which allows him to defy all types of restrictions in terms of power and control. As shown when he was turned into cand but retained his strength and conscious.
Goku (23rd Budokai) vs. Chi-Chi (Boo Saga); There Goku would have no feelings towards Chi-Chi.
Goku still steam rolls Chi Chi
Yamuhan (Namek Saga) vs. Krillin (Cell Games)
Krillin wins. But it takes quite a bit of effort.
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:28 pm

Buu arc Yamcha vs. 1st form Freeza
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Post by mysticboy » Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:28 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Buu arc Yamcha vs. 1st form Freeza
Hard to say. I think he was at least Zarbon (Monster form) tier in the Mech-Freeza arc. Idk what kind of gains he's made training for the androids, but I'm sure he's gotten weaker in the Buu arc since he gave up fighting long before then.

Unless you mean Filler Yamcha. In which case Filler Yamcha stomps. Filler Yamcha strongest there is.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:13 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Buu arc Yamcha vs. 1st form Freeza
Freeza stomps hard.
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Post by In Brightest Day » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:21 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Buu arc Yamcha vs. 1st form Freeza
There is no concrete way of knowing how strong the Android arc humans were. IMO, there are enough instances throughout the arc that suggest the base Saiyans aren't in an entirely different league to the Earthlings.

I have Yamcha slightly stronger than post-Nail fusion Piccolo, who was equal to 2nd form Freeza. Obviously, that means Yamcha would one-shot here.

I don't think he would have lost any of his old power by the Buu arc either if Yo, Son Goku and his friends return is anything to go by.
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:26 pm

I tend to keep the humans in the low millions, usually having Krillin come close to or surpass namek base Goku, I just don't like the base saiyans being worlds above them, and there are a few statements implying they're very strong in that arc.

On topic,

base Kid Gohan (Android arc) gauntlet:

1. base Goku (Namek)
2. base Future Gohan (1 arm)
3. base Yardrat Goku
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