"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Noah]

LMAO. Zamasu told the heroes he'll follow them to the past by using Universe 12's time machines. They were screwed.

As far as I'm aware, from what my SO mentioned while reading (which may not be perfect with an English translation of a Korean scanlation of a Japanese manga), Zamasu never explicitly says he'll use the time machine from Universe 12. He just reminds Gowasu that there are others besides Trunks', like the one from the U12 time traveler, before stating that he has one of his own.

This is quite interesting, probably it will be foreshadowed in the next arc? I hope so, though I'm a little bit tired of all this time travelling stuff.

[Bullza]

How are people reading this? I don't see any translation in this thread.

[Doctor.]

Cocky bastard when he's ahead, scared child when he's behind.

So, every villain in this series.

[Dragonballgod19]

Is gonna take a while like chapter 2,is in development hell as of right now

Lmao screw the yamcha manga

Excellent contribution.

I mean yamcha is pretty much a laughingstock in Japan and vegeta owned him hard
-reason he died
-took his girl
-both her kids she had with the man who killed you is literally stronger than you
-died by a saibmen

[dbzfan7]

I also don't think Gohan should've shown up. Gohan's not relevant in this arc, and his inclusion in the anime just feels like half-hearted fan service. If Toei really wanted to service Gohan fans, why not give him an actual role in helping Trunks?

Gotta agree. He's not the same Gohan. They're two different people. Even then they barely had chemistry even in the manga before this. For someone who's supposed to be so special, why wasn't he the first person Trunks asked for? Especially considering he was the strongest when he left last time.

[LightBing]

Cocky bastard when he's ahead, scared child when he's behind.

So, every villain in this series.

I disagree, only Piccolo Daimaõ is similar to Zamasu.

- Cell is confident in a Goku kind of way when ahead and completely loses his mind when behind.
- Freeza is polite and forcefully demonstrating of his superiority when ahead, when behind he tries to win by any means possible. He never accepts defeat.
- Most versions of Boo don't lose their shit or are cocky. Only Super Boo against Vegetto, where he purposely is toyed by his opponent leading to his anger. Still he comes up with a plan to win.

There's differences between the characters, putting them in the same bag is a disservice to them. Not that they are all amazing characters, however they are still unique in many aspects.

[Doctor.]

I gave in and checked the spoilers now that the arc is over, as well as the chapters I've missed.

Why the hell can Zamasu clone himself? How come Goku can breathe in nothingness? And how can he travel to a timeline that apparently has been destroyed (even the time ring disappeared)? Why does the Omni-King destroy the entire timeline over a threat on Earth? And wasn't the last trip to the future supposed to be the last, how come they're able to do it again now at the end? Why are Trunks and Mai seemingly happy over their entire timeline being destroyed?

Jesus, Toriyama did not plan this arc out well at all.

Cocky bastard when he's ahead, scared child when he's behind.

So, every villain in this series.

I disagree, only Piccolo Daimaõ is similar to Zamasu.

- Cell is confident in a Goku kind of way when ahead and completely loses his mind when behind.
- Freeza is polite and forcefully demonstrating of his superiority when ahead, when behind he tries to win by any means possible. He never accepts defeat.
- Most versions of Boo don't lose their shit or are cocky. Only Super Boo against Vegetto, where he purposely is toyed by his opponent leading to his anger. Still he comes up with a plan to win.

There's differences between the characters, putting them in the same bag is a disservice to them. Not that they are all amazing characters, however they are still unique in many aspects.

They're not unique when it comes to the "cocky bastard when he's ahead, scared child when he's behind" part. They all throw temper tantrums when they start losing, no exception.

[Noah]

There's differences between the characters, putting them in the same bag is a disservice to them. Not that they are all amazing characters, however they are still unique in many aspects.

And you can say anime Goku Black is a unique type among those?

[MyNiggaGoku]

Something unrelated to the new chapter.Is this picture confirmation that the manga is going to be (at least) 8 volumes? If yes,then we can expect Super going on for a veeeery long time.
[spoiler][/spoiler]

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Something unrelated to the new chapter.Is this picture confirmation that the manga is going to be (at least) 8 volumes? If yes,then we can expect Super going on for a veeeery long time.
[spoiler][/spoiler]

Not necessarily, it's just evidence that there's a general template for the spine art going forward. The spine art for the original DB Tankobon has 43 parts, but only made it to 42 volumes.

[The gr]

I gave in and checked the spoilers now that the arc is over, as well as the chapters I've missed.

Why the hell can Zamasu clone himself? How come Goku can breathe in nothingness? And how can he travel to a timeline that apparently has been destroyed (even the time ring disappeared)? Why does the Omni-King destroy the entire timeline over a threat on Earth? And wasn't the last trip to the future supposed to be the last, how come they're able to do it again now at the end? Why are Trunks and Mai seemingly happy over their entire timeline being destroyed?

Jesus, Toriyama did not plan this arc out well at all.
.

The previous chapter explain the clone nonesense,is because MZ fusion is the Same person their cell are bonded together or something like that,when trunk sliced them it cause them to duplicate, similar to episode 67 and those questions will be answer in the translation trough I'm questioning trunks behavior and the time travel shenanigans

did you liked or hated chapter 25, 24 and 23

[LightBing]

They're not unique when it comes to the "cocky bastard when he's ahead, scared child when he's behind" part. They all throw temper tantrums when they start losing, no exception.

They handle the situation differently. Sure, if you want to analyse it in the most superficial way, most don't take losing in stride.
I don't see the upside of looking at the series bare bones.

And you can say anime Goku Black is a unique type among those?

Certainly. Dude doesn't lose his cool and is charismatic.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

They're not unique when it comes to the "cocky bastard when he's ahead, scared child when he's behind" part. They all throw temper tantrums when they start losing, no exception.

They handle the situation differently. Sure, if you want to analyse it in the most superficial way, most don't take losing in stride.

It's not really superficial, this exact same pattern of temper tantrums repeats itself in every single villain, without fail.

[LightBing]

They're not unique when it comes to the "cocky bastard when he's ahead, scared child when he's behind" part. They all throw temper tantrums when they start losing, no exception.

They handle the situation differently. Sure, if you want to analyse it in the most superficial way, most don't take losing in stride.

It's not really superficial, this exact same pattern of temper tantrums repeats itself in every single villain, without fail.

How isn't it superficial to comment on a tendency without bothering about the details? For example it doesn't happen to every single villain. Doesn't happen to Ginyu, doesn't happen to Majin Boo, doesn't happen to the original Super Boo, doesn't happen to Pure Boo.

It's a writing trap Mr.Toriyama falls when writing characters, they never lost or/and have their ego swollen to crazy proportions. Then when they fall, it's normal for these types not to fall gracefully. This much is clear.

My comment isn't to merely point at the common trend, reaching a conclusion just due to that, it's to further look into them for worth or/and flaws.

[DBZ Macky]

Zeno scaring Zamasu off was one thing, but there didn't seem to be anything interesting going on that we already didn't know. I hope Future Mai interacts with the Pilaf Gang at least.

This chapter did not disappoint. Loving the Manga more than the Anime so far. If only it was weekly!

[TheMikado]

I gave in and checked the spoilers now that the arc is over, as well as the chapters I've missed.

Why the hell can Zamasu clone himself? How come Goku can breathe in nothingness? And how can he travel to a timeline that apparently has been destroyed (even the time ring disappeared)? Why does the Omni-King destroy the entire timeline over a threat on Earth? And wasn't the last trip to the future supposed to be the last, how come they're able to do it again now at the end? Why are Trunks and Mai seemingly happy over their entire timeline being destroyed?

Jesus, Toriyama did not plan this arc out well at all.
.

The previous chapter explain the clone nonesense,is because MZ fusion is the Same person their cell are bonded together or something like that,when trunk sliced them it cause them to duplicate, similar to episode 67 and those questions will be answer in the translation trough I'm questioning trunks behavior and the time travel shenanigans

did you liked or hated chapter 25, 24 and 23

As evidenced above I fail to see how explaining in universe phenomena constitutes "not planning well at all". At least it bothers to explain what the heck is happening.

[Doctor.]

did you liked or hated chapter 25, 24 and 23

I have my gripes with them, but seeing as how most people have already beaten the Hakai and healing nonsense to death, I won't bring them up. But they were enjoyable to an extent, especially the great choreography in #24 and #25. I still think the climax of the arc is awful.

[The gr]

did you liked or hated chapter 25, 24 and 23

I have my gripes with them, but seeing as how most people have already beaten the Hakai and healing nonsense to death, I won't bring them up. But they were enjoyable to an extent, especially the great choreography in #24 and #25. I still think the climax of the arc is awful.

Healing trunk wasn't a big deal when you compared to mastered ssb, now That was a mess and the climax was indeed a cluster

[Alruneia]

I really have to give the manga props when it comes to fashion. Toyotarou really hasn't forgotten that people have wardrobes, as we can see four Bulma outfits in this one chapter (Resurrection F outfit, Buu arc outfit, scientist outfit and a totally new one), Vegeta has been wearing his EoZ tanktop outfit quite a bit this arc, and Goku has been wearing his tanktop outfit in some instances as well. Bulma having a lot of clothes isn't exactly a huge surprise, but seeing Goku and Vegeta not be totally gi-locked/armour-locked is nice.

[OLKv3]

They handle the situation differently. Sure, if you want to analyse it in the most superficial way, most don't take losing in stride.

It's not really superficial, this exact same pattern of temper tantrums repeats itself in every single villain, without fail.

How isn't it superficial to comment on a tendency without bothering about the details? For example it doesn't happen to every single villain. Doesn't happen to Ginyu, doesn't happen to Majin Boo, doesn't happen to the original Super Boo, doesn't happen to Pure Boo.

It's a writing trap Mr.Toriyama falls when writing characters, they never lost or/and have their ego swollen to crazy proportions. Then when they fall, it's normal for these types not to fall gracefully. This much is clear.

My comment isn't to merely point at the common trend, reaching a conclusion just due to that, it's to further look into them for worth or/and flaws.

I don't know what you read, but Super Boo flipped out when he was losing to Gotenks, and was very angry when he was getting stomped by Vegetto.