The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
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And yet, much better than many Dragon Ball Z Toei/anime characters.
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And what of it?Angelus wrote:Oh! So evil Bardock is just some video game character lol
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Well, there's a bunch of video game characters that would be vague in power IMO, such as SSJ3 Broly or Baby Janemba or Cell-X. And that I find it difficult to accurately estimate how powerful those guys were.
Also had no idea about the Tekken characters. XD
But here's some quick versus for ya:
Android 14 VS Android 20 (post-absorptions)
SSJ Future Trunks with sword (first appearance in the main timeline) VS Androids Saga/Pre-ROSAT Piccolo, Tien, Krillin, Yamcha, Base Gohan, Vegeta, and Goku (No Kaioken, Tribeam Solar Flare, or Kienzan)
Bio-Broly (not giant form) VS Cell Games USSJ Future Trunks with sword
Cell Games ASSJ Vegeta VS Dabura (no spitting)
Imperfect Cell (post-absorptions) VS Androids 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 20, Future 17 and 18 (no self destruct)
former versus:
Also had no idea about the Tekken characters. XD
But here's some quick versus for ya:
Android 14 VS Android 20 (post-absorptions)
SSJ Future Trunks with sword (first appearance in the main timeline) VS Androids Saga/Pre-ROSAT Piccolo, Tien, Krillin, Yamcha, Base Gohan, Vegeta, and Goku (No Kaioken, Tribeam Solar Flare, or Kienzan)
Bio-Broly (not giant form) VS Cell Games USSJ Future Trunks with sword
Cell Games ASSJ Vegeta VS Dabura (no spitting)
Imperfect Cell (post-absorptions) VS Androids 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 20, Future 17 and 18 (no self destruct)
former versus:
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Ultimate/Mystic Krillin vs. Semi-Perfect Cell
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Cell spits out #18, un-absorbs every single human he absorbed, reverts to his larval state, and still beats Krillin. Jk, but the highest I would see Krillin reaching would be around base Vegeta (Android arc) level or around that.Sandubadear wrote:Ultimate/Mystic Krillin vs. Semi-Perfect Cell
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Cool. I never thought Bardock would come that far. So he could be around Omega Shenron's level, couldn't he?Sandubadear wrote:Evil Bardock is the Dragon Ball Online/Xenoverse/Heroes mind-controlled Bardock. He can turn Great Ape in DB Heroes, and there's a trailer of him fighting and defeating Super Saiyan 4 Goku, and surviving against Gogeta.Angelus wrote:Am I missing something? Who the heck is evil Great Ape Bardock? And frrom where? DB Minus? TV Special? Episode of Bardock? Or is this just the regular Bardock turned Great Ape and happens to have an evil personality?
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Granted, I don't know the context of this particular one, and I don't know anything about his story, but...Dragon Ball Z video game trailers and intro cinematics don't really accurately portray character strengths.Hugo Boss wrote:Cool. I never thought Bardock would come that far. So he could be around Omega Shenron's level, isn't he?Sandubadear wrote:Evil Bardock is the Dragon Ball Online/Xenoverse/Heroes mind-controlled Bardock. He can turn Great Ape in DB Heroes, and there's a trailer of him fighting and defeating Super Saiyan 4 Goku, and surviving against Gogeta.Angelus wrote:Am I missing something? Who the heck is evil Great Ape Bardock? And frrom where? DB Minus? TV Special? Episode of Bardock? Or is this just the regular Bardock turned Great Ape and happens to have an evil personality?
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Far beyond. Evil Bardock blocked a punch from Gogeta, Omega Shenron can't do that.Hugo Boss wrote:Cool. I never thought Bardock would come that far. So he could be around Omega Shenron's level, couldn't he?
There is a trailer where his power level was shown, it is over 2 billions and 800. That means he has the highest power level ever registered in an official material, surpassing even Super Saiyan Gogeta, as you know, who was stated to have 2 billions and half.
It is a Dragon Ball Heroes thing, though. It's not like Bardock would receive some/such treatment from that author. He needs other hands to act, unfortunately.
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Then, counting how video games portray their own power scale, this Bardock is at least stronger than Super Gogeta.
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Yes. At least on par with Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta, maybe stronger, maybe weaker... That trailer does not answer that.Hugo Boss wrote:Then, counting how video games portray their own power scale, this Bardock is at least stronger than Super Gogeta.
Think you could say Bardock is the strongest single character in the video-games universe. Lol.
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I think he's about as strong as an arcade machine, seeing as it's not actually Bardock.Dyno wrote:Yes. At least on par with Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta, maybe stronger, maybe weaker... That trailer does not answer that.Hugo Boss wrote:Then, counting how video games portray their own power scale, this Bardock is at least stronger than Super Gogeta.![]()
Think you could say Bardock is the strongest single character in the video-games universe. Lol.
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Isn't he fused with Mira?Dyno wrote:Think you could say Bardock is the strongest single character in the video-games universe.
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What? No. He is controlled by him through that mask. I think it is mentioned in Dragon Ball Online when Mira possesses someone, he can give a certain amount of power, increasing the possessed person's power by how much Mira wants, but I am not sure if this information is real and I read it years ago, even if I read correctly... Lol.Hugo Boss wrote:Isn't he fused with Mira?
A fusion though... Now that you mentioned, I want to see a King Vegeta and Bardock fusion in Heroes.
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2 billion 800 beats 2.5 billion? This is just video game power levels making no sense, considering SSJ4 Gogeta is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJ Gogeta.Dyno wrote:Far beyond. Evil Bardock blocked a punch from Gogeta, Omega Shenron can't do that.Hugo Boss wrote:Cool. I never thought Bardock would come that far. So he could be around Omega Shenron's level, couldn't he?
There is a trailer where his power level was shown, it is over 2 billions and 800. That means he has the highest power level ever registered in an official material, surpassing even Super Saiyan Gogeta, as you know, who was stated to have 2 billions and half.
It is a Dragon Ball Heroes thing, though. It's not like Bardock would receive some/such treatment from that author. He needs other hands to act, unfortunately.
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No, a 2 billions and 800 can block a punch from a 2.5 billions.singsing wrote:2 billion 800 beats 2.5 billion?
And yet, I have to mention that Gogeta's power level comes from an old V-Jump scan for Budokai 3. Maybe in Heroes his power is way higher.
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That's my conclusion. The manga I hear has all these inconsistencies as well, so there's no point in trying to rationalize it or count it.Kamiccolo9 wrote:I think he's about as strong as an arcade machine, seeing as it's not actually Bardock.Dyno wrote:Yes. At least on par with Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta, maybe stronger, maybe weaker... That trailer does not answer that.Hugo Boss wrote:Then, counting how video games portray their own power scale, this Bardock is at least stronger than Super Gogeta.![]()
Think you could say Bardock is the strongest single character in the video-games universe. Lol.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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And that PL is for Super Saiyan Gogeta, not Super Saiyan 4.Dyno wrote:No, a 2 billions and 800 can block a punch from a 2.5 billions.singsing wrote:2 billion 800 beats 2.5 billion?![]()
And yet, I have to mention that Gogeta's power level comes from an old V-Jump scan for Budokai 3. Maybe in Heroes his power is way higher.
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Looks like a Piccolo VS Kaioshin question in disguise. Kidding. lol
Anyways, if you think that Piccolo was more powerful than Kaioshin and just stepped down from the 25th WMAT match out of respect, then Yakon wins. If indeed, Kaioshin has a much higher power level than Piccolo, then Kaioshin wins against Yakon. Yakon is supposed to be like around 1/3rd of Buu Saga SSJ Goku's power, based on Babidi's Kili device. However, I'm not sure if that was Goku at 100% as a SSJ.
Anyways, if you think that Piccolo was more powerful than Kaioshin and just stepped down from the 25th WMAT match out of respect, then Yakon wins. If indeed, Kaioshin has a much higher power level than Piccolo, then Kaioshin wins against Yakon. Yakon is supposed to be like around 1/3rd of Buu Saga SSJ Goku's power, based on Babidi's Kili device. However, I'm not sure if that was Goku at 100% as a SSJ.
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It's possible he was suppressed as a SSJ, since
Yakon = 800 kiri
Goku ~ Yakon
SSJ Goku = 3,000 kiri
3,000 / 800 = 3.75x
So unless SSJ is now a 3.75x boost, he was most likely suppressed.
Yakon = 800 kiri
Goku ~ Yakon
SSJ Goku = 3,000 kiri
3,000 / 800 = 3.75x
So unless SSJ is now a 3.75x boost, he was most likely suppressed.



