"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

[Saiga]

First I've ever seen that mascot, reminds me of Veedramon somewhat.

And the Super Saiyan 3 -> Super Saiyan God is interesting.

[Chuquita]

Even though the art style itself isn't my favorite, I really like that color scheme VJump's been using for ssjg Goku. X3

Re: VJump Dragon
He's normally green on the "next issue preview" page; is he red/magenta on the card because of ssjg, or does VJump's dragon not have a set color palette at all?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

[dbzfan7]

What does the red and yellow sections mean if the first is HP.

[Saiga]

Attack and Defence, I think.

[Raykugen]

First DB character in Heroes.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

You could probably make the argument that there have been some DB characters in the game already, since you can cover like half the 23rd Budokai's fights...

Anyway, gameplay of the Mazoku: Slug, Garlic Jr. and Piccolo Daimao...and man is the Great Demon King a giant motherfucker in this game. Not as big as some of the others, but bigger than I thought they would make him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kczhfGCBrw

[DNA]

Seems pretty consistent with his Budokai 3 model to me, does not seem taller than that. By the way, the background on the website has changed... it's that time again :D

Edit: No worries, found it:

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Yeah, but the original image doesn't really work as wallpaper size; it's bigger than the ones I post and lacks the star background that helps when they are partially transparent (as in this case).

[DNA]

Yeah but now you've cut their legs... :/

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Yeah but now you've cut their legs... :/

I don't really care. I've done such things for all the previous wallpapers to make them fit within the image as best as I can center them.

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

Seems pretty consistent with his Budokai 3 model to me, does not seem taller than that. By the way, the background on the website has changed... it's that time again

Edit: No worries, found it:

Beerus' face is my future avatar.

[DNA]

So I randomly decided it's recap time.

THIS IS NOT A WISH LIST THIS IS NOT A WISH LIST

Dragon Ball Heroes has been encompassing nearly every character from every nook and cranny of the franchise with a few exceptions, they do still have some models from older games using the same engine. They are as follows:

• Son Goku: Childhood
  Piccolo Daimao: Old
  
  Bulma
  Freeza in Hover Chair
  Babidi
  Kibito
  
  Super 17
  Si Xing Long (Base, 2nd Form)
  San Xing Long
  Yi Xing Long (Base, Final)
  Vegeta: GT (Super Saiyan 4)
  Gogeta (Super Saiyan 4)
  
  Yamhan
  Yamhan: Mistake
  Majin Buu: Evil (Vegeta Absorbed, Freeza Absorbed, Cell Absorbed, Tenshinhan and Yamcha Absorbed)
  Freeza Majin
  Cell Majin
  Trunks: Future (Super Saiyan 2)
  Son Gohan: Future (Super Saiyan 2, Ultimate)
  
  Kuriza (Base, Final Form)
  
  Arale
  Obotchaman

I've included every model to my knowledge from every game using the engine, all the Budokai series and Carddass. As you can see there are still a few, the remaining GT ones will most likely eventually appear, no question there, but the what-if's are a big miss. Also of interest is the fact that the model for Kuriza does exist. Everyone else is open for interpretation, although with the surprise appearance of Piccolo Daimao, a new door as opened.

You may or may not know that a few forms are missing, they are as follows:

• Lood (Base)
  Baby: Adult Body
  Broli (Base)
  Bojack (Base)
  Gokua (Transformed)
  Janenba (Base)
  Hildegarn (Base)
  Ginger (Transformed)
  Nikki (Transformed)
  Sansho (Transformed)

The biggest misses here in my opinion are the base forms for Broli, Bojack, Janenba and Hildegarn, although Baby: Adult Body would be very nice to see too but something tells me we might still see him in the future. The recent resurgence of Freeza Army related cards leads me to follow that logic. I'm speficically talking about the surprise appearance of Kiyu and Zarbon: Transformed.

Speaking of that, there are some members of specific teams or characters related to already covered features missing. Of note are as follows:

• Yakon
  Pan: Childhood
  Bra
  Hoi
  Dr. Raichi
  Kyabira
  Trunks: Boyhood (Base, Super Saiyan)
  Majin Buu (South Kaioshin Absorbed)

From these, Yakon is by far the one that shocked me the most since they've been covering every "team" pretty solidly, although Kyabira also weirds me out. I personally could see Pan: Childhood work, alongside all the other children. Hoi was a magician but also a ninja, they could have easily worked with that. Raichi was a boss in his own game, with a whole set of moves and all. Trunks: Boyhood is a missed oppurtunity, he is the one who fought alongside Son Gohan: Future. And that final missing form of Majin Buu is simply hurtful. Bra could be thrown there as another girl and another saiyan.

This in turn brings me to features not yet covered, the "meat" of the discussion.

• Gel
  Shila
  Redict
  
  Liang Xing Long
  Wu Xing Long
  Liu Xing Long
  Princess Oto
  Qi Xing Long
  
  Gashew (Base, Transformed)
  Tard (Base, Transformed)
  Vinegar
  Zald
  
  Bio-Man
  Ebifurya
  Kishime
  Misokattsun
  Dr. Kochin
  Dr. Uiro
  
  Tolbi
  Tapika
  Frog
  Maraiko
  Aqua
  Olibu
  
  North Kaioshin
  South Kaioshin
  West Kaioshin
  Dai Kaioshin
  
  Tarble
  Abo
  Cado
  Abocado
  
  Son Goku Junior (Base, Super Saiyan)
  Vegeta Junior (Base, Super Saiyan)
  
  Z (Base, Super Neko Majin)
  Onio (Base, Super Saiyan)

Okay so now we're talking, obviously the ones that immediately jump to the eyes are the final arcs of GT and the second DBZ movie. I've included Gel, Shila and Redict because, from seeing what they've done with many other obscure characters that barely had screen time, I believe they had potential; the same can be said about the Kaioshins, which would be covered in a war against Buu, like the backstory in the anime covered; but also the Anoyoichi Budokai fighters.
The Four Monarchs of Garlic are also missing but we might see them right in the next set actually, so yay!

The 2008 Jump Special is a big miss that I've been wondering for quite some time, the reason for it to be a no show might be licensing, which is very sad.

So all we have left are the 100 years in the future and the Neko Majin Z, which I believe are self explanatory.

Lastly I could list some potential what-ifs but I will leave that out of the discussion.

I hope you gave it a read of at least a quick glance and formed your own opinions on to why some are missing and which you feel could be added or not. Opinions and theories about the future of game are interesting.

Oh and it is interesting to note that with the surprise appearance of Piccolo Daimao we might get some Dragon Ball characters too or at the very least his demon clan.

[JeffJarrett]

DB characters who can make it: Cyborg/Mercenary Tao, Tsurusennin, Adult Chi-Chi, Drum, Tambourine, Cymbal, Yajirobe, Roshi, Pilaf Machines, Grandpa Gohan, Akkuman, Mummyman, Invisibleman, Draculaman, Battle Jacket, General Blue, Android 8, Metallitron, Nam, Ranfan, Bacterian. And maybe Bora, Yellow in his plane, Giran, Bear Thief, etc.

[DNA]

DB characters who can make it: Cyborg/Mercenary Tao, Tsurusennin, Adult Chi-Chi, Drum, Tambourine, Cymbal, Yajirobe, Roshi, Pilaf Machines, Grandpa Gohan, Akkuman, Mummyman, Invisibleman, Draculaman, Battle Jacket, General Blue, Android 8, Metallitron, Nam, Ranfan, Bacterian. And maybe Bora, Yellow in his plane, Giran, Bear Thief, etc.

Calm down with the Dragon Ball lists. We only got Piccolo Daimao so far, it doesn't mean anything yet. Let's wait and see.

[JeffJarrett]

Same as your listings, it doesn't mean anything yet. Let's wait and see.

DB characters I'd like to see in the game:

Tsurusennin
Cyborg Tao
Adult Chi-Chi

Drum
Tambourine
Cymbal
Yajirobe
Roshi/Jackie Chun

Fused Machine (Robot form, Ostrish form)
Pilaf Machine
Mai Machine
Shu Machine

Grandpa Gohan
Akkuman
Mummyman
Invisibleman
Draculaman

Battle Jacket
Mercenary Tao
Bora*
Yellow in his plane*
General Blue
Android 8
Metallitron
Murasaki*

Nam
Ranfan
Bacterian
Giran*

Bear Thief*
Kid Goku

[DNA]

My listings are not wish lists, they are potential lists based on what we already know from the game, lists of characters that didn't make it and a list of existing models. There are no wish lists there, I do not wish for half those characters to be in. And that's the same reason why I did not include Dragon Ball characters, all we know is that Piccolo Daimao is now in. That means nothing so far, so I can extrapolate and guess who could potentially be coming, for all I know Daimao is a single entry.

[GTx10]

My listings are not wish lists, they are potential lists based on what we already know from the game, lists of characters that didn't make it and a list of existing models. There are no wish lists there, I do not wish for half those characters to be in. And that's the same reason why I did not include Dragon Ball characters, all we know is that Piccolo Daimao is now in. That means nothing so far, so I can extrapolate and guess who could potentially be coming, for all I know Daimao is a single entry.

Not to intrude but even thou your list is based "what we already know" its still basically a wish list. Because the same way none of anyones listed characters can be added to the game could also apply to your list and vice a versa. So why is yours ok compared to others?

[DNA]

Not to intrude but even thou your list is based "what we already know" its still basically a wish list. Because the same way none of anyones listed characters can be added to the game could also apply to your list and vice a versa. So why is yours ok compared to others?

I'm not saying what's okay or what isn't. All I said is that it is too soon for Dragon Ball lists. Also my lists ARE NOT wish lists, like I said, I don't wish for half those characters to be in.

[dbzfan7]

Not to intrude but even thou your list is based "what we already know" its still basically a wish list. Because the same way none of anyones listed characters can be added to the game could also apply to your list and vice a versa. So why is yours ok compared to others?

I'm not saying what's okay or what isn't. All I said is that it is too soon for Dragon Ball lists. Also my lists ARE NOT wish lists, like I said, I don't wish for half those characters to be in.

Who cares if people make a wish list for Dragon Ball characters. They are called wish lists for a reason. Doesn't mean anything will happen. It's like if I created a wish list on Budokai 4. It doesn't exist, but why not for fun anyways.