"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[VegettoEX]

Wasn't he originally going to be the one to defeat Buu until Goku fans got the better of him?

There is no evidence to support this.

[HybridSaiyan]

Wasn't he originally going to be the one to defeat Buu until Goku fans got the better of him?

There is no evidence to support this.

Oh wow, thanks for providing me with this. I never even knew. I just get influenced by what others say and many say Gohan was suppose to be the hero of the Buu saga. Apparently not.

[VegettoEX]

Oh wow, thanks for providing me with this. I never even knew. I just get influenced by what others say and many say Gohan was suppose to be the hero of the Buu saga. Apparently not.

Well, you're saying two different things now.

Yes, Toriyama planned to have Gohan do more in the arc, but ultimately decided against it.

At the same time, and this is what I was originally correcting, there is no evidence to support that it was Gohan that was intended to defeat Buu all along (particularly in that one spot where Gohan returns), and there is no evidence to support that it was a fan reaction/backlash that changed the plans (and in fact, Toriyama admits to it being of his own choosing).

[SaiyaSith]

This chapter is like Toriyama is personally answering his fans and saying that he doesn't care about Gohan, he will never care about Gohan again, he doesn't like writing him and you're not gonna force him to do so. And good on him.

I don't think it's because he doesn't care about Gohan, but because Gohan never liked fighting and only did it to protect his loved ones. Toriyama made a character who is smart and can still kick ass. He's a good role model for kids that want to study and become doctors, scientists, ect. (Also in the Dragon Ball Online timeline Gohan taught a class for people to learn how to control their ki)

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I can't speak for the exact dialogue, but can confirm the that the Chapter 6 summary is real. The general gist of the events matchup. Though, it seems the summary left off the final page, which shows the tournament grounds and the Super Dragon Balls floating in the sky above the planet while Champa and Vados have a brief conversation.

[Araki]

At the same time, and this is what I was originally correcting, there is no evidence to support that it was Gohan that was intended to defeat Buu all along (particularly in that one spot where Gohan returns), and there is no evidence to support that it was a fan reaction/backlash that changed the plans (and in fact, Toriyama admits to it being of his own choosing).

Did Toriyama ever admit changing something due to fan backlash? He had to listen his editors a lot, but he never seemed to be the kind of author that tries to please fanbases, quite the opposite, if anything.

And good for him, we have enough mangaka that let popularity polls write their stories for them.

Though, it seems the summary left off the final page, which shows the tournament grounds and the Super Dragon Balls floating in the sky above the planet while Champa and Vados having a brief conversation.

That's interesting. If the tournament is about to start, i guess the manga, although following a more cohesive narrative now, keeps rushing through the events and skipping things...we didn't even see them talking to Piccolo or Boo about the tournament, let alone anyone training.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

That's interesting. If the tournament is about to start, i guess the manga, although following a more cohesive narrative now, keeps rushing through the events and skipping things. We didn't even see them talking to Piccolo about the tournament.

I'm not sure the tournament is about to start. It may have been that Vados and Champa just completed the stadium and are waiting for it to begin or something.

It also ends with Vados asking a question and Champa giving a sneaky/evil sneer. Feels like he does have ulterior motives for the tournament.

I can't get a translation of the text until my fiance is no longer indisposed. So it'll be a bit of a waiting game before we get our next clue/clarification.

[Araki]

It also ends with Vados asking a question and Champa giving a sneaky/evil sneer. Feels like he does have ulterior motives for the tournament.

Ah, thanks. I've thought his ulterior motives were a given, but that reinforces it.
Bulma and Jaco's trip to meet Zuno is probably to delay the discovery that will come when she gets there, that Champa took some, if not all, of U7's SDBs and is hiding them.
Either way, i'm betting Goku and co. will be busy already once she finds out what happened.

[dbgtFO]

About time we see someone destroy a planet with a physical hit(I know Beerus used a finger tap to split that planet in half in the first episode, but people were saying he used GoD magic, but this at least looks more convincing).
Good to see that Champa and Vados do look to have ulterior motives as TDC said.

[Chuquita]

Piccolo's ヽ(ﾟ〇ﾟ)ﾉ face from the background after Vegeta explains the whole "attraction" thing to Gokû is hilarious. As is Jaco's "who, me?" face about Bulma.

Also, the ring has audience seats. Who's invited to watch I wonder.

[SansrivaaL]

About time we see someone destroy a planet with a physical hit(I know Beerus used a finger tap to split that planet in half in the first episode, but people were saying he used GoD magic, but this at least looks more convincing).
Good to see that Champa and Vados do look to have ulterior motives as TDC said.

Didnt Beerus physically hit the planets around his home planet after eating a wasabi?

glad to hear that theres more to Chanpa than meets the eye, I have a feeling its either U7 team will lose or the tournament will be interupted for a plot twist. I hope the big boss for U6 arc is a really sick bastard with ill intentions that makes a fool of Goku and the cast then Goku going apeshit, been a long time since I saw Goku get pissed off for real, we need Krillin to die again!

[TheDevilsCorpse]

The new "super" Dragon Radar looks...unique. I'm kind of surprised it's translucent or whatever (assuming it shares the same design in the anime).

Also, I dislike Tights new haircut, but there are apparently some easter eggs in her scenes.
--It looks like her novel based on Jaco is on the table next to her.
--The picture of Jaco and his girlfriend is hanging on the wall, and below it...
--Is a calendar with an picture of Jaco taking a selfie with Beerus (completely unaware) in the background (presumably during the Freeza battle).

[LightBing]

Vados little joke caused the destruction of 5 or 6 planets. The new generation of Gods have no regard for "human" life. Although the space fight was pretty cool.

[LuckyCat]

Wow, judging from just a few pages, Beerus vs. Champa is going to look spectacular when animated.

The new "super" Dragon Radar looks...unique. I'm kind of surprised it's translucent or whatever (assuming it shares the same design in the anime).

It looks very...modern. I kind of miss the old-school radar, but I guess it does emphasize the scale of the search.

As for Tights' hair cut, I suppose it looks okay for a woman her age.

Spoiler:

[Birusu16]

Vados little joke caused the destruction of 5 or 6 planets. The new generation of Gods have no regard for "human" life. Although the space fight was pretty cool.

Well they are Gods of Destruction.

[Kishido]

I will ask again...

Are there 2 sets of Super DragonBalls or not? One in U6 and one in U7?

If yes why Champa is only having 6 and is searching in U7?

Does that mean that U6 has Namekians, who created "small" DragonBalls or how does Champa knew about them?

[Rukura]

Anyone else scared that the "simple written test" might totally backfire on Goku and Buu?

Are there 2 sets of Super DragonBalls or not? One in U6 and one in U7?

If yes why Champa is only having 6 and is searching in U7?

Because of Champa looking in U7, I was wondering if maybe all 7 Super Dragon Balls are spread across the 12 universes...... But Vegeta's line almost points at a set of Super Dragon Balls.

But it's the first time he's even heard of them, so what does he know.

[Araki]

If yes why Champa is only having 6 and is searching in U7?

He's maybe telling the truth that he found only 6 from his universe, but unable to find the last one, went after the U7 ones instead.

It's either that or the six he has are actually from U7. There's no way for us to know yet, as Bulma's radar isn't working (that or there are no SDB's in U7 anymore).

[sintzu]

I will ask again...

Are there 2 sets of Super DragonBalls or not? One in U6 and one in U7?

Vegeta thinks U7 has a set but they won't know till they find Zuno and ask him.

[Sandubadear]

Couldn't they instead go to North or Grand Kaio and ask them where's the center of the universe? It's best if Zuno has some role besides telling them that, otherwise he'd be unnecessary.