The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:04 pm

Sandubadear wrote:4 year old Pan vs 22nd Tournament Tenshinhan (no Tri-Beam)
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Dyno wrote:Metroplex (Aligned continuity) vs 5.000 random Freeza's soldiers.
Matroplex swats them away like the bugs they are.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:07 pm

singsing wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote: Metroplex may be large, but considering the average power it takes reduce a moon to space dust is 180, and average power level of Freeza soldiers is 5,000 - 10,000... go figure.
Gohan and Krillin were one-shotting his extra powerful hand-picked for Namek soldiers at less than 2k. Where did you get 5k as an average?
Because Cui has a PL of 18,000 for an elite solider, so I'd estimate that average solider would have somewhere near a third of that power level.
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Beerus wrecks Gogeta. 8)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by singsing » Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:39 pm

Because Cui has a PL of 18,000 for an elite solider, so I'd estimate that average solider would have somewhere near a third of that power level.
Cui was literally in Freeza's top 3 if you don't count characters that appeared later in the series and the Ginyu force. Ginyu's regular soldiers all got godstomped by 3k Namekians, and, as I said earlier, Gohan and Krillin crushed soldiers with their piddly little 2k power levels. He picked his best soldiers for this venture and we never hear of a single 5k-10k power level actually. Everyone was either fodder or a Cui.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Dyno » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:57 pm

SSJ God Gogeta wrote:Metroplex swats them away like the bugs they are.
That's more like it. 8)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sandubadear » Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:05 pm

singsing wrote:
Because Cui has a PL of 18,000 for an elite solider, so I'd estimate that average solider would have somewhere near a third of that power level.
Cui was literally in Freeza's top 3 if you don't count characters that appeared later in the series and the Ginyu force. Ginyu's regular soldiers all got godstomped by 3k Namekians, and, as I said earlier, Gohan and Krillin crushed soldiers with their piddly little 2k power levels. He picked his best soldiers for this venture and we never hear of a single 5k-10k power level actually. Everyone was either fodder or a Cui.
The low class grunts have PLs until at least 3,999 (Nappa is a mid class at 4,000), Elites have PLs above 10,000. Considering there are more Low-class than mid and elite classes, an average at 5k is somewhat acceptable.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Dyno » Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:10 pm

Nappa's power level comes from a guide.
And the "10.000" is from Bardock's TV Special, which for some people, isn't canon anymore due to the crappy Dragon Ball Minus.

So an exactly power level to set which class a Saiyan belongs is debatable/speculation.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by singsing » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:08 pm

Sandubadear wrote:
singsing wrote:
Because Cui has a PL of 18,000 for an elite solider, so I'd estimate that average solider would have somewhere near a third of that power level.
Cui was literally in Freeza's top 3 if you don't count characters that appeared later in the series and the Ginyu force. Ginyu's regular soldiers all got godstomped by 3k Namekians, and, as I said earlier, Gohan and Krillin crushed soldiers with their piddly little 2k power levels. He picked his best soldiers for this venture and we never hear of a single 5k-10k power level actually. Everyone was either fodder or a Cui.
The low class grunts have PLs until at least 3,999 (Nappa is a mid class at 4,000), Elites have PLs above 10,000. Considering there are more Low-class than mid and elite classes, an average at 5k is somewhat acceptable.
That's for Saiyans. We're talking about average Freeza soldiers. Who are nowhere near Saiyan averages. Also, an average being at 5k when there's more low class than mid/elite combined, makes no sense.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sandubadear » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:41 pm

singsing wrote:
That's for Saiyans. We're talking about average Freeza soldiers. Who are nowhere near Saiyan averages. Also, an average being at 5k when there's more low class than mid/elite combined, makes no sense.
Saiyans are Freeza's soldiers, so it's obvious the levels should be the same.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by singsing » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:46 pm

Sandubadear wrote:
singsing wrote:
That's for Saiyans. We're talking about average Freeza soldiers. Who are nowhere near Saiyan averages. Also, an average being at 5k when there's more low class than mid/elite combined, makes no sense.
Saiyans are Freeza's soldiers, so it's obvious the levels should be the same.
... on Namek? And no, the Saiyan average and Freeza's general average soldiers would not be the same.

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:48 pm

End of Z Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta vs. Super Saiyan Gotenks (post-RoSaT)

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Post by Angelus » Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:03 pm

We don't know how powerful End of Z SSJ2 Vegeta is. As of BoG, he's probably much more powerful than we expected.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:07 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:End of Z Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta vs. Super Saiyan Gotenks (post-RoSaT)
Gotenks takes this.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sandubadear » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:08 am

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:End of Z Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta vs. Super Saiyan Gotenks (post-RoSaT)
If it's manga Vegeta vs Gotenks, eh... maybe Gotenks.

If it's post-BoG/FnF Vegeta, then base Vegeta one-shots.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZazamPow » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:34 am

Finding the difference between Potara and Fusion Dance.

1.) Super Saiyan Gogeta vs Base Vegetto. (x50 enough to overcome Potara? Less or more?)

2.) Hypothetical Potara fusion of Trunks and Goten vs Gogeta (same form)

If four characters all had equal powers and skills, and two of them were rivals of Goku/Vegeta and Goten/Trunks caliber and they fused with the dance, and the other two were NOT rivals and they fused with Potara, who would become stronger? Rival boost vs Potara.
Kamiccolo9 wrote:I swear, the Gohan fanboys won't be happy unless he just bends over and farts all of Freeza's men into the sun.
fadeddreams5 wrote: Honestly, this would only make me slightly satisfied. To make me happy, he'd also have to grab Freeza by the tail, drag him to the nearest toilet, and give him swirlies until he submits and calls him "daddy."

Gohan deserves it.

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Post by ZazamPow » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:37 am

Hypothetical fusions are fun.

Piccolo and Krillin Potara fusion (Piccolin) runs the gauntlet.

1. Perfect Cell
2. Super Perfect Cell
3. Majin Vegeta
4. Fat Buu
5. Super Saiyan 3 Goku

Where does Piccolin stop?
Kamiccolo9 wrote:I swear, the Gohan fanboys won't be happy unless he just bends over and farts all of Freeza's men into the sun.
fadeddreams5 wrote: Honestly, this would only make me slightly satisfied. To make me happy, he'd also have to grab Freeza by the tail, drag him to the nearest toilet, and give him swirlies until he submits and calls him "daddy."

Gohan deserves it.

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Post by Sandubadear » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:47 am

ZazamPow wrote:Finding the difference between Potara and Fusion Dance.

1.) Super Saiyan Gogeta vs Base Vegetto. (x50 enough to overcome Potara? Less or more?)

2.) Hypothetical Potara fusion of Trunks and Goten vs Gogeta (same form)

If four characters all had equal powers and skills, and two of them were rivals of Goku/Vegeta and Goten/Trunks caliber and they fused with the dance, and the other two were NOT rivals and they fused with Potara, who would become stronger? Rival boost vs Potara.
Rival Boost is not a thing.

The only difference between Potara and Dance is the result of Potara is fusee 1 multiplied by fusee 2, while the dance includes only the weaker fusee. Goku and Vegeta were equal in the Buu arc, so I don't believe there's a huge difference between Vegito and Gogeta.
ZazamPow wrote:Hypothetical fusions are fun.

Piccolo and Krillin Potara fusion (Piccolin Kuriccolo) runs the gauntlet.

1. Perfect Cell
2. Super Perfect Cell
3. Majin Vegeta
4. Fat Buu
5. Super Saiyan 3 Goku

Where does Piccolin Kuriccolo stop?
If it's Buu arc Piccolo, I think Kuriccolo would be over Perfect Cell, but would lose to Super Perfect Cell.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZazamPow » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:51 am

But rival boost is totally a thing tho
Kamiccolo9 wrote:I swear, the Gohan fanboys won't be happy unless he just bends over and farts all of Freeza's men into the sun.
fadeddreams5 wrote: Honestly, this would only make me slightly satisfied. To make me happy, he'd also have to grab Freeza by the tail, drag him to the nearest toilet, and give him swirlies until he submits and calls him "daddy."

Gohan deserves it.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:09 am

ZazamPow wrote:Hypothetical fusions are fun.

Piccolo and Krillin Potara fusion (Piccolin) runs the gauntlet.

1. Perfect Cell
2. Super Perfect Cell
3. Majin Vegeta
4. Fat Buu
5. Super Saiyan 3 Goku

Where does Piccolin stop?
Even if both were End of Z, I just can't see them being able to beat SPC or Vegeta.

Oh, and here's a quick one:

Severely weakened Vegeta (Saiyan Saga, immediately after he gets slashed on the back by Yajirobe) VS Yajirobe with sword, Korin, Popo, Roshi, Chi Chi, Cyborg Tao, Crane Hermit, Bora, Ox King, Bandages the Mummy, Fangs the Vampire, King Chappa, Giran, Nam, Ranfan, Man-Wolf, and Pamput (all of Vegeta's opponents are bloodlusted)-- Vegeta removes his armor and won't use Ki attacks or fly in this match

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:09 am

ZazamPow wrote:Finding the difference between Potara and Fusion Dance.

1.) Super Saiyan Gogeta vs Base Vegetto. (x50 enough to overcome Potara? Less or more?)

2.) Hypothetical Potara fusion of Trunks and Goten vs Gogeta (same form)

If four characters all had equal powers and skills, and two of them were rivals of Goku/Vegeta and Goten/Trunks caliber and they fused with the dance, and the other two were NOT rivals and they fused with Potara, who would become stronger? Rival boost vs Potara.
1.)They're equals. Can go either way.

2. Trunten one-shots Gogeta.

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