"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I actually hated that addition, it totally defeated the original joke.

Was the "original joke" that Goku was letting himself get punched by Mr. Satan? Because I saw the sub version of the scene when looking up the dubbed version on YouTube & there wasn't much there in terms of jokes that wasn't there in the dub, if you could call that humor when Chichi saw Goku, yelled at him, & he had to leave so he had Satan punch him. The dub just added a line that ADDED to the humor of the scene.
All I'm thinking here is, thank god for Sean Schemmel. It kept intact with not only the scene, but Goku's character.

It didn't change anything, it just defeated it. By that I mean "made it immensely less funny". The original was more visually funny than anything else, the mere act of Goku being knocked away in such exaggerated fashion only to pick up his tractor along the way. The dub didn't trust the audience to get it, so they took a cynical page straight out of the Z-era playbook.

It's not just a problem with this scene either. While the Super dub is good on the whole, they have a tendency to make unnecessary, if minor changes far more often than they need to. Almost as if the scriptwriters are trying to emulate the old dubs in a small way.

Actually just like Super Saiyan Please this wasn't scripted, Sean just did it and Sabat loved and kept it in for good reason as the audience similarly loved it.

There is no point having the dub exactly 1:1, changing or adding minor things is fine, it's gives a different experience whilst also adhering the original spirit of the show, these changes are nothing like the Z era changes at all, they aren't changing contexts of any scenes or characterisations of characters they are merely adding to it.
The Freeza line in my sig for example wasn't on the original but it works (some say even better) as it keeps the same context and same characterisation for Freeza.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Actually just like Super Saiyan Please this wasn't scripted, Sean just did it and Sabat loved and kept it in for good reason as the audience similarly loved it.

Uh... no. Keeping something just because people like it doesn't make it a good decision. "Super Saiyan Please" wasn't funny either.

There is no point having the dub exactly 1:1.

100% agree, and I've never advocated otherwise. I just don't like it when they make things worse.

[Scsigs]

Actually just like Super Saiyan Please this wasn't scripted, Sean just did it and Sabat loved and kept it in for good reason as the audience similarly loved it.

Uh... no. Keeping something just because people like it doesn't make it a good decision. "Super Saiyan Please" wasn't funny either.

Subjective. (Imagine I said that in a sing-song voice)

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Actually just like Super Saiyan Please this wasn't scripted, Sean just did it and Sabat loved and kept it in for good reason as the audience similarly loved it.

Uh... no. Keeping something just because people like it doesn't make it a good decision. "Super Saiyan Please" wasn't funny either.

There is no point having the dub exactly 1:1.

100% agree, and I've never advocated otherwise. I just don't like it when they make things worse.

I think if the majority of the audience loved the additional then I think it warranted them leaving it in. Similar to the "Son Goku" in the Freeza arc, wasn't scripted Schemmel just did it and majority people loved it thus making it warranted.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Actually just like Super Saiyan Please this wasn't scripted, Sean just did it and Sabat loved and kept it in for good reason as the audience similarly loved it.

Uh... no. Keeping something just because people like it doesn't make it a good decision. "Super Saiyan Please" wasn't funny either.

There is no point having the dub exactly 1:1.

100% agree, and I've never advocated otherwise. I just don't like it when they make things worse.

I think if the majority of the audience loved the additional then I think it warranted them leaving it in. Similar to the "Son Goku" in the Freeza arc, wasn't scripted Schemmel just did it and majority people loved it thus making it warranted.

The majority of English-speaking fans love, or at least enjoy the English dub. Universal appraise doesn't make something good. Otherwise, the Star Wars prequels are the shining spectacle of what film should be.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Uh... no. Keeping something just because people like it doesn't make it a good decision. "Super Saiyan Please" wasn't funny either.

100% agree, and I've never advocated otherwise. I just don't like it when they make things worse.

I think if the majority of the audience loved the additional then I think it warranted them leaving it in. Similar to the "Son Goku" in the Freeza arc, wasn't scripted Schemmel just did it and majority people loved it thus making it warranted.

The majority of English-speaking fans love, or at least enjoy the English dub. Universal appraise doesn't make something good. Otherwise, the Star Wars prequels are the shining spectacle of what film should be.

We are talking about minor changes nothing to the extent of Star Wars Prequels which were far from minor.

[jeffbr92]

Piccolo's so mature line after goku took the tractor is a very stupid addition..
It's such an unnecessary TFS style addition, it completely ruined whatever the scene wanted to depict

What was the line?

[Ki Breaker]

Piccolo's so mature line after goku took the tractor is a very stupid addition..
It's such an unnecessary TFS style addition, it completely ruined whatever the scene wanted to depict

What was the line?

That's exactly the line, goku flew away with the tractor and piccolo called him out on his maturity..
That's both out of character for piccolo and unneeded dialogue which makes goku look like a fool

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Piccolo's so mature line after goku took the tractor is a very stupid addition..
It's such an unnecessary TFS style addition, it completely ruined whatever the scene wanted to depict

What was the line?

That's exactly the line, goku flew away with the tractor and piccolo called him out on his maturity..
That's both out of character for piccolo and unneeded dialogue which makes goku look like a fool

Because that scene didn't already depict Goku as a fool? Come on man, seems like you were looking for reasons to drop the dub.

[Ki Breaker]

What was the line?

That's exactly the line, goku flew away with the tractor and piccolo called him out on his maturity..
That's both out of character for piccolo and unneeded dialogue which makes goku look like a fool

Because that scene didn't already depict Goku as a fool? Come on man, seems like you were looking for reasons to drop the dub.

Goku didn't really look like a fool there
He ran away from ChiChi like any normal human would and he did it in a way to save Satan's image..
Piccolos original line of "he ran away!" felt much better and natural way for the situation to go to me..

[Baggie_Saiyan]

That's exactly the line, goku flew away with the tractor and piccolo called him out on his maturity..
That's both out of character for piccolo and unneeded dialogue which makes goku look like a fool

Because that scene didn't already depict Goku as a fool? Come on man, seems like you were looking for reasons to drop the dub.

Goku didn't really look like a fool there
He ran away from ChiChi like any normal human would and he did it in a way to save Satan's image..
Piccolos original line of "he ran away!" felt much better and natural way for the situation to go to me..

I am pretty sure husbands do not run away from their wives when they see them on the street... And he didn't do it in a way to save Satan's image he did it so people wouldn't see him fly he says so himself it just coincidentally happened to work out that way. We as the audience already saw Goku run away so Piccolo commenting that exact thing didn't really add anything, I just think it is silly to drop the dub and shun the good work of the dub so far such as Schemmel's and Douglas' terrific perfomance over a few innocuous lines here and there, but ultimately it is your prerogative but I do think it is a shame if you do drop it.

[DHM211]

I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but is it me or does the Super dub seem less accurate then the Kai, BoG and R'F' dubs were?

[Boo Machine]

I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but is it me or does the Super dub seem less accurate then the Kai, BoG and R'F' dubs were?

How so?

[Ki Breaker]

Because that scene didn't already depict Goku as a fool? Come on man, seems like you were looking for reasons to drop the dub.

Goku didn't really look like a fool there
He ran away from ChiChi like any normal human would and he did it in a way to save Satan's image..
Piccolos original line of "he ran away!" felt much better and natural way for the situation to go to me..

I am pretty sure husbands do not run away from their wives when they see them on the street... We as the audience already saw Goku run away so Piccolo commenting that exact thing didn't really add anything, I just think it is silly to drop the dub and shun the good work of the dub so far such as Schemmel's and Douglas' terrific perfomance over a few innocuous lines here and there, but ultimately it is your prerogative but I do think it is a shame if you do drop it.

If your wife sees you doing something she hates and told you not do now in the middle of the street and is calling you out angrily, I would think that a guy would avoid contact on street..

I am frankly not liking the dub, it's not this Little Change which makes me not like it, no that would be silly, but it's the sense of goku being even more of a stupid here that bugs me.. Which this line was the last one I decided to hear of..
What other instances exist have been discussed before here by others, so I won't go deep there..

I would much rather hear the dub actually because I understand the language, If ft arc will have a representation fit to my liking, I will definitely pick it up from there again, but it's just not doing it for me right now..

[DHM211]

I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but is it me or does the Super dub seem less accurate then the Kai, BoG and R'F' dubs were?

How so?

I never heard complaints of lines being changed for either of those 3 dubs. However, it seems with every super episode, some dub change complaints come up.

[Boo Machine]

I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but is it me or does the Super dub seem less accurate then the Kai, BoG and R'F' dubs were?

How so?

I never heard complaints of lines being changed for either of those 3 dubs. However, it seems with every super episode, some dub change complaints come up.

The only changes I'm aware of are small ones with no real consequence to the story or characters. More like them taking some liberty to have a little fun with some lines, make them sound more natural for an English speaking audience or make it fit lip flaps, and those are the ones I see some have a slight problem with. Otherwise the script is fine. It's not like they're changing characters personalities or story concepts for whatever reason.

[precita]

I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but is it me or does the Super dub seem less accurate then the Kai, BoG and R'F' dubs were?

How so?

I never heard complaints of lines being changed for either of those 3 dubs. However, it seems with every super episode, some dub change complaints come up.

FUNI does still add some jokes here and there that are not in the original. I guess it's because Super is seen as a continuation of their old dubs.

[Scsigs]

I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but is it me or does the Super dub seem less accurate then the Kai, BoG and R'F' dubs were?

How so?

I never heard complaints of lines being changed for either of those 3 dubs. However, it seems with every super episode, some dub change complaints come up.

Really, the only complaint I have with Kai's dub is the first half being a bit inconsistent. I have a thread on here where I went into it more, but them not redubbing Frieza's laugh in the first episode for the home releases with Chris Ayres, which is something I can get passed, & the attack names being regressed back to their original English dub names rather than keeping with the original Japanese names in the Android Saga after gaining them in the dub & them keeping them on the home releases is just a bit sloppy.

[TheAldella]

The Kai dub was no different.
Gohan, talking about a now missing Dr. Gero: So he's invisible?
Buu Kai is no different.
Goku always calls Kid Trunks "Mini-Trunks."
Battle of Gods was no different.
Bulma: HEY GUYS, VEGETA ACTUALLY HAS FRIENDS
And so on and so forth.
The whining is really sad.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but is it me or does the Super dub seem less accurate then the Kai, BoG and R'F' dubs were?

There are more changes in the Super dub, for sure. Not nearly to the extent or severity of the old dubs, though.