"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[namekiansaiyan]

Updated Bandai Full-Year $$$ charts:





Toei numbers tomorrow, expect the same pile of Dragon Ball money

This is why Dragonball Super will not be ending any time soon.

[Basaku]

This is why Dragonball Super will not be ending any time soon.

This year results guarantee at least 2 more years of the show on TV. Numbers are stellar, they would have to go down heavily for any serious consideration of cancelling/halting the show.

[jcogginsa]

This is why Dragonball Super will not be ending any time soon.

This year results guarantee at least 2 more years of the show on TV. Numbers are stellar, they would have to go down heavily for any serious consideration of cancelling/halting the show.

Ratings are a secondary concern to Merchandise sales. Any Info on those?

[DBZ_Lee]

Incredible performance there from Dragon Ball. Beaten only by Gundam, with figures like that, there's no way Super will be cancelled anytime soon.

Am interested to see what Toei post tomorrow, as that will be an indication of how well the Super home video sets are doing.

[namekiansaiyan]

This is why Dragonball Super will not be ending any time soon.

This year results guarantee at least 2 more years of the show on TV. Numbers are stellar, they would have to go down heavily for any serious consideration of cancelling/halting the show.

These figures should get higher once Super is licensed internationally as that will help sell more mechandiae and video games.
Xenoverse sold brilliantly so once Super is released around the world the next game is going to do crazy numbers.

[Basaku]

Ratings are a secondary concern to Merchandise sales. Any Info on those?

Urhm... I just posted lol. Bandai is the merch side of the brand

Xenoverse sold brilliantly so once Super is released around the world the next game is going to do crazy numbers.

I've been out of E3 news loop recently, any rumors on XV2 popped yet? I still assume it's gonna be announed there, the time would be right (unless of course they want 3-year dev cycle)

[namekiansaiyan]

Ratings are a secondary concern to Merchandise sales. Any Info on those?

Urhm... I just posted lol. Bandai is the merch side of the brand

Xenoverse sold brilliantly so once Super is released around the world the next game is going to do crazy numbers.

I've been out of E3 news loop recently, any rumors on XV2 popped yet? I still assume it's gonna be announed there, the time would be right (unless of course they want 3-year dev cycle)

Just fake rumours. e3 makes sense, it has to be soon as Xenoverse came out 15 months ago. I also think that we might get a different type of game before Xenoverse 2 to give that game more development time due to the first games sales.

[FortuneSSJ]

-Bandai Namco Holdings Fiscal 2016 Figures-

Didn't know Gundam was that strong, but I'm proud of Dragon Ball.
Beating One Piece makes me happy. Go! Go!

[TheMikado]

The problem for me is that I doubt those merchandise sales really correspond with the shows ratings, meaning it's not. It because they have a humongous viewing audience but because they have an avid fan base who will buy every new transformation and costume change... I keep saying it repeatedly but I'd rather a good story that gets cancelled early than a mediocre one that drags on for the sake of selling merchandise.

[kinisking]

The problem for me is that I doubt those merchandise sales really correspond with the shows ratings, meaning it's not. It because they have a humongous viewing audience but because they have an avid fan base who will buy every new transformation and costume change... I keep saying it repeatedly but I'd rather a good story that gets cancelled early than a mediocre one that drags on for the sake of selling merchandise.

It's always in the top 10.

[Hellspawn28]

Dragon Ball is a show market to kids. Kids shows always focus on merchandise ratings than TV show ratings compare to late night anime. Kai got canceled in 2011 because of poor merchandise sales. Otherwise Buu saga Kai would have been finished by 2012 or 2013.

[sintzu]

This year results guarantee at least 2 more years of the show on TV. Numbers are stellar, they would have to go down heavily for any serious consideration of cancelling/halting the show.

If Kai could last 2 years with terrible sales then this will go way beyond that, with or without Toriyama.

[kinisking]

I wonder why super is so much more popular than kai? I understand it's a new series, but to younger kids both series would be a new experience.

[Basaku]

I wonder why super is so much more popular than kai? I understand it's a new series, but to younger kids both series would be a new experience.

Yet many of their parents probably still had old toys suck in boxes. That stuff was in cirtulation for decades. Can't compare to brand new designs which drive big volume of new sales. Similar with licensing, international distributors want brand new stuff more than old stuff (even if repacked/refreshed)

If Kai could last 2 years with terrible sales then this will go way beyond that, with or without Toriyama.

Well, for now at least it doesn't seem like they have any troubles getting Toriyama to crank out another story arc. Without weekly manga-drawing hectic schedule, I doubt he will get tired of his current job fast

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

I wonder why super is so much more popular than kai? I understand it's a new series, but to younger kids both series would be a new experience.

I would think mainly because its new material (even the movie rehash are younger/newer than the over 3 decades old material that Kai abridged)

[sintzu]

Well, for now at least it doesn't seem like they have any troubles getting Toriyama to crank out another story arc. Without weekly manga-drawing hectic schedule, I doubt he will get tired of his current job fast

He said he can't leave DB alone so he'll probably get us to 100 episodes at least but when he steps down I'm sure Toei will continue in his footsteps instead of doing their own thing like they did with GT.

So no Kid Goku, no overly childish tone like GT's 1st arc & most importantly, Vegeta will still play a main role in the story.

[Hellspawn28]

I do wonder if we will see Future Trunks timeline again or if Future Trunks will arrive at out of his time machine in his timeline? I do hope we will see some story info on what happens after Trunks killed Cell and #17 & #18 in his timeline.

[HAIKEN-00]

I wonder why super is so much more popular than kai? I understand it's a new series, but to younger kids both series would be a new experience.

Truthfully, I was never fond of Kai. When new material releases, I expect new content. Not rehashes with enhanced picture.

Also, I did enjoy the filler in Dragon Ball as opposed to some fans.

[Araki]

The problem for me is that I doubt those merchandise sales really correspond with the shows ratings, meaning it's not.

They do. Having a tv show is like a weekly reminder of the franchise reaching the millions of people watching it, considering Super has been one of the most watched (and recorded) series ever since the first episode. It keeps the franchise and those characters beloved and popular among kids, their parents and older fans in general.
And while i think that should be obvious, believe me, older fans by themselves or an "avid fanbase" don't support great sales - that's the whole reason Bandai has been often trying to push Gundam for newer generations.

The new movies gave Dragon Ball a boost, a new tv series gave it an even bigger one. That's what the facts tell us, it's how it works, and undoubtedly, how the people behind the franchise read this scenario, too. So it really doesn't matter what you think, in the end.

[alakazam^]

No, it isn't obvious. We have no idea what Toriyama & Toei had planned, if they had anything planned. We know that at some point, they decided to make a new series. Was that before, during, or after the production of the movie? We don't know. Did Toriyama have a few ideas in his head for the next story arcs of the new series? We don't know. Toriyama doesn't usually plan ahead, but he isn't writing his own manga this time, he is writing Toei's anime, so he doesn't have the privilege to come up with the new villain one chapter before his debut.

You are making assumptions based on what you believe is more likely. That doesn't make it a fact.

I'm not assuming out of belief, though. I'm using Toriyama's statements. It's true we don't know when Toei told him about Super but I don't even need to go there to make a logical conclusion.

Since he stated he had no idea for the plot of "the next movie" then we know he had no story ideas. When he got one, it was about Freeza. This is enough. If he then thought about Goku Black or any other enemy there'd be no reason to still not introduce White in the movie and then come up with Blue when the color-clash would be relevant, right? That's basically my stand.

We'll see next month, this is going on in circles at this point.