"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[alakazam^]

It seems the CD single for this ending will have a cover of Romantic ageru yo.

[Sonicjamareiz]

It seems the CD single for this ending will have a cover of Romantic ageru yo.

Is it the new Super outro #5?

[Araki]

It seems the CD single for this ending will have a cover of Romantic ageru yo.

Is it the new Super outro #5?

No, it's just the same band doing a "Romantic" cover for the single. The Chozetsu Dynamic single last year also had a cover of that song.

The fifth ED will probably be announced over the next 3 weeks or so. Hopefully with a new OP, although i'm not holding my breath.

[Lujin_16]

You guys think that the scarf of Future Trunks has something to do with Bulma? Maybe she was killed Hmm if this is true i would cry

[sintzu]

You guys think that the scarf of Future Trunks has something to do with Bulma? Maybe she was killed Hmm if this is true i would cry

I don't think Super is going to do anything like that, if anything they'll wish back everyone he lost with the Super dragon balls.

[generalred3]

You guys think that the scarf of Future Trunks has something to do with Bulma? Maybe she was killed Hmm if this is true i would cry

I don't think Super is going to do anything like that, if anything they'll wish back everyone he lost with the Super dragon balls.

This is actually what I initially thought as well. Future Bulma maybe was killed so the scarf Trunks wears was hers as we see her wearing a red scarf in Super currently.

[Lujin_16]

You guys think that the scarf of Future Trunks has something to do with Bulma? Maybe she was killed Hmm if this is true i would cry

I don't think Super is going to do anything like that, if anything they'll wish back everyone he lost with the Super dragon balls.

Just because it is now peace and more comedy that doeanst means it will be not violent or dark later..You really think trunks has a scarf because he likes it?? Come on it has a significant

[Pannaliciour]

Sorry if this is said before. But does Trunks have blue or purple hair in the original manga? If it was purple doesnt that contradic with Supers new hair colour?

[Lujin_16]

Sorry if this is said before. But does Trunks have blue or purple hair in the original manga? If it was purple doesnt that contradic with Supers new hair colour?

Bulma has purple hair in the manga and blue in the anime hmm but about Trunks i don't know..

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Sorry if this is said before. But does Trunks have blue or purple hair in the original manga? If it was purple doesnt that contradic with Supers new hair colour?

Bulma has purple hair in the manga and blue in the anime hmm but about Trunks i don't know..

Trunks' hair is purple in the manga, but it doesn't matter. People are having such a fit over Future Trunks' hair color, but they seem to forget that Toriyama colored kid Trunks' hair the same color in his BOG designs (as well as making 18 & Marron's hair purple). The anime staff fixed it then, and so unless there is an story related reason for the change, they will almost certainly make Future Trunks' hair purple when he debuts in his arc.

[sintzu]

Just because it is now peace and more comedy that doesn't means it will be not violent or dark later..

You really think trunks has a scarf because he likes it?? Come on it has a significant

We're in the 4th arc and we haven't seen anything dark or violent so chances are it'll continue that way.

There's probably a reason but I doubt it's due to his mother dying.

[ArchedThunder]

I really hope we get some Key Art for the arc in V-Jump.

Just because it is now peace and more comedy that doesn't means it will be not violent or dark later..

You really think trunks has a scarf because he likes it?? Come on it has a significant

We're in the 4th arc and we haven't seen anything dark or violent so chances are it'll continue that way.

There's probably a reason but I doubt it's due to his mother dying.

???
Beerus blew up half a planet that was inhabited just because of the food, then he blew up an entire other planet in the next episode after beating down someone on the planet, then in his fight against Goku he stabbed him in the chest and left him to die. Freeza tortured Tagoma by blowing holes through his joints and then tortured Gohan by blasting holes all through his body and then Piccolo died trying to save Gohan. Goku was later pierced through the chest and his near lifeless body was then tortured by Freeza. Piccolo also had his arm ripped off in the F arc and a hole blasted through his chest in his fight with Frost, Champa was also about to kill his entire team just because they lost.
The show is also full of fighting, that right there is violence, and the fights can get pretty intense at times. Just because there hasn't been much blood and there has been more of a focus on humor than Z doesn't mean that there is nothing dark or violent about the show.
If anything as far as events go the Super retellings of BoG and F have some much darker stuff in them, Beerus's portrayal in the BoG arc is a lot darker and Freeza's torture of Tagoma and Gohan is darker than what he did in the movie, the first two arcs just lacked blood. The tournament didn't have terribly too much dark or overly violent stuff, but it was also a tournament with a no killing rule.
The way Toriyama describes the new arc and his artwork of a beat up Trunks makes it feel like the next arc is going to be pretty serious.

[fadeddreams5]

I really hope we get some Key Art for the arc in V-Jump.

Just because it is now peace and more comedy that doesn't means it will be not violent or dark later..

You really think trunks has a scarf because he likes it?? Come on it has a significant

We're in the 4th arc and we haven't seen anything dark or violent so chances are it'll continue that way.

There's probably a reason but I doubt it's due to his mother dying.

???
Beerus blew up half a planet that was inhabited just because of the food, then he blew up an entire other planet in the next episode after beating down someone on the planet, then in his fight against Goku he stabbed him in the chest and left him to die. Freeza tortured Tagoma by blowing holes through his joints and then tortured Gohan by blasting holes all through his body and then Piccolo died trying to save Gohan. Goku was later pierced through the chest and his near lifeless body was then tortured by Freeza. Piccolo also had his arm ripped off in the F arc and a hole blasted through his chest in his fight with Frost, Champa was also about to kill his entire team just because they lost.
The show is also full of fighting, that right there is violence, and the fights can get pretty intense at times. Just because there hasn't been much blood and there has been more of a focus on humor than Z doesn't mean that there is nothing dark or violent about the show.
If anything as far as events go the Super retellings of BoG and F have some much darker stuff in them, Beerus's portrayal in the BoG arc is a lot darker and Freeza's torture of Tagoma and Gohan is darker than what he did in the movie, the first two arcs just lacked blood. The tournament didn't have terribly too much dark or overly violent stuff, but it was also a tournament with a no killing rule.
The way Toriyama describes the new arc and his artwork of a beat up Trunks makes it feel like the next arc is going to be pretty serious.

I agree it can get violent, but none of that has been "dark." Dark to me is based entirely on tone. Yamcha getting impaled by Gero was dark, Krillin getting stabbed by Frieza was dark, Future Gohan being found lying dead on the ground of a rainy city was dark. In Super, similar things have happened, but it all lacks so much emotion (e.g. Piccolo dying) and is so heavily censored (e.g. Goku getting stabbed), none of it hardly counts as "dark."

[Araki]

I agree it can get violent, but none of that has been "dark." Dark to me is based entirely on tone. Yamcha getting impaled by Gero was dark, Krillin getting stabbed by Frieza was dark, Future Gohan being found lying dead on the ground of a rainy city was dark. In Super, similar things have happened, but it all lacks so much emotion (e.g. Piccolo dying) and is so heavily censored (e.g. Goku getting stabbed), none of it hardly counts as "dark."

Funny thing about your examples is, other than a Gohan from another timeline dying, those scenes had no repercussions. Kuririn and Yamcha were perfectly fine right after. I don't think Gohan being tortured by Freeza was much different. "Dark" and especially "emotion" can be too subjective.

[fadeddreams5]

Admittedly, Gohan getting tortured by Frieza in Super was the only scene I'd regard as pretty dark so far. Missed that one.

[dbzfan7]

The thing with Dark or not is how serious the subject material is taken. You can have a single killing be more dark than mass genocide, depending on how serious the material wants us to take it. Beerus blowing up half a planet for petty reasons, is a gag. It has dark subtext, but we're not supposed to take it too seriously. We're supposed to laugh at how petty Beerus is for what he did. We also have no attachment to those he killed, so we don't care. In comparison to Future Gohan dying which we're supposed to take fully seriously. It's treated as a dark moment.

This isn't to argue about dark moments are there or not in Super. The subtext is there, and can be found in a lot of material that isn't inherently dark. Super has dark subtext, and sometimes it's right out there. Though what hurts it and the series in general, is the baggage from the Boo arc. Too many safety nets. Piccolo's recent death is outright laughable when Goku himself knows how easy it is to bring him back. It's not even a big deal by the end. Death is meaningless. I'm not worried for anyone because who the hell cares? There is no real loss.

But when we went to the tournament arc. Tension came right back. Stakes came back. Why is that? Cause now death isn't important. It's about winning the tournament. So now getting eliminated can happen. We've had some close calls and surprises. So now the danger was something else. Goku going Kaio-Ken was not suspense filled because he might die. Death is meaningless. It is because he might lose the bout as it's heavily straining.

So now heading back into an arc where it's not about a sporting event, we're gonna be back in death is meaningless territory, and yet I'll never be worried so long as the safety nets are still around. Those and the abundance of godly figures. Hopefully the arc addresses all these things as they killed all worrying I could ever have from the first two arcs.

[ArchedThunder]

The thing with Dark or not is how serious the subject material is taken. You can have a single killing be more dark than mass genocide, depending on how serious the material wants us to take it. Beerus blowing up half a planet for petty reasons, is a gag. It has dark subtext, but we're not supposed to take it too seriously. We're supposed to laugh at how petty Beerus is for what he did. We also have no attachment to those he killed, so we don't care. In comparison to Future Gohan dying which we're supposed to take fully seriously. It's treated as a dark moment.

This isn't to argue about dark moments are there or not in Super. The subtext is there, and can be found in a lot of material that isn't inherently dark. Super has dark subtext, and sometimes it's right out there. Though what hurts it and the series in general, is the baggage from the Boo arc. Too many safety nets. Piccolo's recent death is outright laughable when Goku himself knows how easy it is to bring him back. It's not even a big deal by the end. Death is meaningless. I'm not worried for anyone because who the hell cares? There is no real loss.

But when we went to the tournament arc. Tension came right back. Stakes came back. Why is that? Cause now death isn't important. It's about winning the tournament. So now getting eliminated can happen. We've had some close calls and surprises. So now the danger was something else. Goku going Kaio-Ken was not suspense filled because he might die. Death is meaningless. It is because he might lose the bout as it's heavily straining.

So now heading back into an arc where it's not about a sporting event, we're gonna be back in death is meaningless territory, and yet I'll never be worried so long as the safety nets are still around. Those and the abundance of godly figures. Hopefully the arc addresses all these things as they killed all worrying I could ever have from the first two arcs.

The scene was meant as more of an establishment of Beerus's character, to show how he destroys things instantly without a second thought for the smallest of reasons, it wasn't really played as a gag.

[dbzfan7]

The thing with Dark or not is how serious the subject material is taken. You can have a single killing be more dark than mass genocide, depending on how serious the material wants us to take it. Beerus blowing up half a planet for petty reasons, is a gag. It has dark subtext, but we're not supposed to take it too seriously. We're supposed to laugh at how petty Beerus is for what he did. We also have no attachment to those he killed, so we don't care. In comparison to Future Gohan dying which we're supposed to take fully seriously. It's treated as a dark moment.

This isn't to argue about dark moments are there or not in Super. The subtext is there, and can be found in a lot of material that isn't inherently dark. Super has dark subtext, and sometimes it's right out there. Though what hurts it and the series in general, is the baggage from the Boo arc. Too many safety nets. Piccolo's recent death is outright laughable when Goku himself knows how easy it is to bring him back. It's not even a big deal by the end. Death is meaningless. I'm not worried for anyone because who the hell cares? There is no real loss.

But when we went to the tournament arc. Tension came right back. Stakes came back. Why is that? Cause now death isn't important. It's about winning the tournament. So now getting eliminated can happen. We've had some close calls and surprises. So now the danger was something else. Goku going Kaio-Ken was not suspense filled because he might die. Death is meaningless. It is because he might lose the bout as it's heavily straining.

So now heading back into an arc where it's not about a sporting event, we're gonna be back in death is meaningless territory, and yet I'll never be worried so long as the safety nets are still around. Those and the abundance of godly figures. Hopefully the arc addresses all these things as they killed all worrying I could ever have from the first two arcs.

The scene was meant as more of an establishment of Beerus's character, to show how he destroys things instantly without a second thought for the smallest of reasons, it wasn't really played as a gag.

Yes it was. It's hilarious. He's so petty he'll blow up a planet for such a stupid reason. Just like how on earth he gets mad for such a stupid reason. Furthering it is the superfluous people no one has any attachment to. He's supposedly being nice by blowing up only half the planet. It's a joke. It's funny. The second you make a scene about food, it's a joke. I'm not taking him seriously when he does that. It's called dark comedy.

[Pannaliciour]

Sorry if this is said before. But does Trunks have blue or purple hair in the original manga? If it was purple doesnt that contradic with Supers new hair colour?

Bulma has purple hair in the manga and blue in the anime hmm but about Trunks i don't know..

Trunks' hair is purple in the manga, but it doesn't matter. People are having such a fit over Future Trunks' hair color, but they seem to forget that Toriyama colored kid Trunks' hair the same color in his BOG designs (as well as making 18 & Marron's hair purple). The anime staff fixed it then, and so unless there is an story related reason for the change, they will almost certainly make Future Trunks' hair purple when he debuts in his arc.

But how will they explain the purple hair of kid trunks. Future trunks is kid trunks right? Maybe if they reach a certain age it will become Blue?

[ArchedThunder]

But how will they explain the purple hair of kid trunks. Future trunks is kid trunks right? Maybe if they reach a certain age it will become Blue?

People are trying to tell you that's just how Toriyama felt like coloring it, it'll be purple in the actual show.