Discussion, generally of an in-universe nature, regarding any aspect of the franchise (including movies, spin-offs, etc.) such as: techniques, character relationships, internal back-history, its universe, and more.
Pre-Gohan training Videl VS Cell Games Mr. Satan with Yajirobe's Katana and GT Trunk's Sword while equipped with Nappa's full armor and Gohan's Great Saiyaman Helmet
Cyborg Tao shooting a Super Dodon Ray VS off-guard Piccolo (with weighted clothing on, immediately post-Raditz fight and just regenerated his arm)
Giran VS Raditz (on the ground, with a hole through his chest)
Tambourine VS Bandages the Mummy, Fangs the Vampire, See-Through the Invisible Man, and Spike the Devilman with his demon pitchfork-- no Devilmite beam, flying, or use of ki attacks
RandomGuy96 wrote:Abo and Cado take him apart effortlessly. Giant Red Bull Man is on par with Zarbon.
But the bull guy beat Piccolo in the trailer.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am
I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
RandomGuy96 wrote:Abo and Cado take him apart effortlessly. Giant Red Bull Man is on par with Zarbon.
Was on par with Zarbon. After 4 months he is Piccolo tier.
I was one that suggested Shisame could take Kaioshin a while ago, but if he really is ranked with Zarbon and Dodoria, who are inferior to the Ginyus, I guess Abo or Cado alone could win.
Pre-Gohan training Videl VS Cell Games Mr. Satan with Yajirobe's Katana and GT Trunk's Sword while equipped with Nappa's full armor and Gohan's Great Saiyaman Helmet
Cyborg Tao shooting a Super Dodon Ray VS off-guard Piccolo (with weighted clothing on, immediately post-Raditz fight and just regenerated his arm)
Giran VS Raditz (on the ground, with a hole through his chest)
Tambourine VS Bandages the Mummy, Fangs the Vampire, See-Through the Invisible Man, and Spike the Devilman with his demon pitchfork-- no Devilmite beam, flying, or use of ki attacks
- Bora crushes Ranfan
- Videl still stomps
- Piccolo get wounded but it's no fatal
- Giran wins buy virtue of Raditz being practically on the verge of death that even one punch would put him down
- Tambourine crushes everyone in his path.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Angelus wrote:Pre-Gohan training Videl VS Cell Games Mr. Satan with Yajirobe's Katana and GT Trunk's Sword while equipped with Nappa's full armor and Gohan's Great Saiyaman Helmet
Videl's mince-meat.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am
I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
Tambourine VS Bandages the Mummy, Fangs the Vampire, See-Through the Invisible Man, and Spike the Devilman with his demon pitchfork-- no Devilmite beam, flying, or use of ki attacks
Without the Devilmite beam they're nothing but fodder to Tambourine.
Yes. It's pretty clear when Bills said Kakarot couldn't defeat Freeza in his base form and needed Super Saiyan, he was saying at that time, which in fact, Kakarot couldn't win in his base form. Otherwise, it would be as saying Kakarot didn't got stronger since then.
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Base Vegeta (BoG) vs Super Saiyan Goku (Namek)
Tough one to call.
Goku wrecks Vegeta.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
