Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[sintzu]

Really, Freeza has siblings ?

Toriyama confirmed that he and his father are the only ones to be mutants.

Even if Coola will become canon his backstory might be totally different and maybe his appearance too, not to mention his power.

To the people who are doing the marketing yes.

And that's still the case unless the movie says otherwise and him saying something in the past doesn't mean he won't change his mind about it later which is something he's done more then once.

His name might be different as well.

[ShadowWolf87]

Well after seeing this trailer... More and more I really believe that Vegeta will be the one of beating Freeza...

I seriously can't see that happening.

I'm still convinced that one way or another, both are gonna have to work together to beat him.

[Gianchio]

This is the first time in Toriyama's work he's been revived after being dead. That's what I thought we we're talking about. Guess not?

Eh not much of a difference considering without his dad he'd have died anyways. I consider it a revival still.

But it was the chapter after he was defeated on Namek. He basically returned 1 second later his defeat.

[sintzu]

I seriously can't see that happening.

With all the hints we've been getting I'll be very shocked if that doesn't happen.

[FutureGohanSSJ2]

I seriously can't see that happening.

With all the hints we've been getting I'll be very shocked if that doesn't happen.

What hints? We've gotten no hints. Have you actuallu read Toyotaro's manga yet? We see Goku and Vegeta struggling to fight together. They're bumping into each other, yelling at each other, and all-around off-sync. Have you seen any movie ever? Where two or more people don't get along well in the beginning and yet win in-the-end with teamwork? Like...THESE are legitimate hints. Stupid bullshit in the trailers are not.

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[ShadowWolf87]

I seriously can't see that happening.

With all the hints we've been getting I'll be very shocked if that doesn't happen.

I can see him getting the final blow, sure. But to get Freeza to the point where one can be delivered is gonna require them to learn to fight in sync and compensate for one another's problem areas, as hinted by their training with Whis, imo.

[sintzu]

Stupid bullshit in the trailers are not.

You're saying Goku getting shot through the chest is bullshit and he'll be able to help Vegeta who's unscratched against Freeza ?

[FutureGohanSSJ2]

Stupid bullshit in the trailers are not.

You're saying Goku getting shot through the chest is bullshit and he'll be able to help Vegeta who's unscratched against Freeza ?

So let me get this straight: You're telling me that Goku got beaten by Freeza without even a scratch. Got completely mutilated by him. And then Vegeta comes in and beats him all on his own? You're saying Vegeta is THAT much more powerful than Goku? No.
Also, Roshi brought Senzu beans. Goku getting shot means nothing.

[fadeddreams5]

Stupid bullshit in the trailers are not.

You're saying Goku getting shot through the chest is bullshit and he'll be able to help Vegeta who's unscratched against Freeza ?

So let me get this straight: You're telling me that Goku got beaten by Freeza without even a scratch. Got completely mutilated by him. And then Vegeta comes in and beats him all on his own? You're saying Vegeta is THAT much more powerful than Goku? No.

If you notice in the trailer, Golden Frieza is already pretty beaten up before Vegeta arrives, so it's possible Vegeta just finishes up what Goku started.

But based on the new manga, it's also possible Vegeta has surpassed Goku by learning to control his emotions and mind in battle. Whis mentions that's the only thing that has prevented him from surpassing Goku in the past.

[ShadowWolf87]

Stupid bullshit in the trailers are not.

You're saying Goku getting shot through the chest is bullshit and he'll be able to help Vegeta who's unscratched against Freeza ?

So let me get this straight: You're telling me that Goku got beaten by Freeza without even a scratch. Got completely mutilated by him. And then Vegeta comes in and beats him all on his own? You're saying Vegeta is THAT much more powerful than Goku? No.
Also, Roshi brought Senzu beans. Goku getting shot means nothing.

I'd also like to point out that Goku, while having been burned, appears to have not necessarily been shot through, as when he sits up his flesh is merely burned there. Could also be an edit that will be changed in the theatrical version I suppose, but for now it just looks like a bad burn.

And given how many people there have healing powers, idk... there's also something about that DB Heroes Goku card having something happen to it on April 18th but that may not even be relevant.

But again, I really don't see Vegeta just stepping up and beating Freeza on his own. Though frankly even just stepping up and fighting when he feels he has no chance would indicate character growth when contrasted with how he just quit against Freeza on Namek.
Also:

If you notice in the trailer, Golden Freeza is already pretty beaten up before Vegeta arrives, so it's possible Vegeta just finishes up what Goku started.

But based on the new manga, it's also possible Vegeta has surpassed Goku by learning to control his emotions and mind in battle. Whis mentions that's the only thing that has prevented him from surpassing Goku in the past.

I wouldn't say Freeza looks really beat up, simply like he's been in a fight. But beat up and weakened he's not.

Can't really agree that's what the manga's indicating either, especially since it focused on both of them and what's been their biggest respective problems. Again, seeing this as them having to learn to work together. A lot of things point to it.

But the movie could go a lot of ways still.

[Kamiccolo9]

I would like to point out that the last time Goku had a hole in his chest, he defeated Piccolo.
The last time Vegeta had a hole in his chest, he died.

Goku clearly has Vegeta beat in the "winning with a hole in the chest" department.

[jcogginsa]

I would like to point out that the last time Goku had a hole in his chest, he defeated Piccolo.
The last time Vegeta had a hole in his chest, he died.

Goku clearly has Vegeta beat in the "winning with a hole in the chest" department.

that whole was in his should. Last time he had a chest whole, Goku died

[sintzu]

So let me get this straight: You're telling me that Goku got beaten by Freeza without even a scratch.Got completely mutilated by him.

And then Vegeta comes in and beats him all on his own ?

You're saying Vegeta is THAT much more powerful than Goku? No.

Also, Roshi brought Senzu beans. Goku getting shot means nothing.

Freeza was beaten up in the trailer so when he fights Vegeta he won't be at full power.

Yes.

Of course not,the only way I can see one beating him on his own is if the other fights first and weakens him which is what Goku did.

Those beans are never around when they're needed.

[ShadowWolf87]

I would like to point out that the last time Goku had a hole in his chest, he defeated Piccolo.
The last time Vegeta had a hole in his chest, he died.

Goku clearly has Vegeta beat in the "winning with a hole in the chest" department.

that whole was in his should. Last time he had a chest whole, Goku died

He usually always has his chest whole.

Holes, however, can be problematic.

[fadeddreams5]

Kind of hope this movie emphasizes on Vegeta's growth as a character, and ultimately leads to him surpassing Goku for good. I'm not even a Vegeta fanboy (Team Goku for life), but I'd like to see that for one movie. His connection with the villain makes it all the more satisfying.

[ShadowWolf87]

So let me get this straight: You're telling me that Goku got beaten by Freeza without even a scratch.Got completely mutilated by him.

And then Vegeta comes in and beats him all on his own ?

You're saying Vegeta is THAT much more powerful than Goku? No.

Also, Roshi brought Senzu beans. Goku getting shot means nothing.

Freeza was beaten up in the trailer so when he fights Vegeta he won't be at full power.

Yes.

Of course not,the only way I can see one beating him on his own is if the other fights first and weakens him which is what Goku did.

Those beans are never around when they're needed.

So you're saying Vegeta winning will be severely undercut because he'll beat an Opponent Goku already half-killed.

Got it.

[FutureGohanSSJ2]

So let me get this straight: You're telling me that Goku got beaten by Freeza without even a scratch.Got completely mutilated by him.

And then Vegeta comes in and beats him all on his own ?

You're saying Vegeta is THAT much more powerful than Goku? No.

Also, Roshi brought Senzu beans. Goku getting shot means nothing.

Freeza was beaten up in the trailer so when he fights Vegeta he won't be at full power.

Yes.

Of course not,the only way I can see one beating him on his own is if the other fights first and weakens him which is what Goku did.

Those beans are never around when they're needed.

Then I guess Goku's not going to get any character development then. Both Goku and Vegeta had fighting problems. No one gives two cruds if Goku overcomes his fighting flaw. But since it's Vegeta, "OMG HE'S GONNA SOLO FREEZA". Jeez.

[sintzu]

I'd also like to point out that Goku, while having been burned, appears to have not necessarily been shot through, as when he sits up his flesh is merely burned there. Could also be an edit that will be changed in the theatrical version I suppose, but for now it just looks like a bad burn.

In kai they animated the hole as a burn so they might have done it again.

[ShadowWolf87]

Kind of hope this movie emphasizes on Vegeta's growth as a character, and ultimately leads to him surpassing Goku for good. I'm not even a Vegeta fanboy (Team Goku for life), but I'd like to see that for one movie.

...riiiight.

Okay I'll bite: Why?