"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Sonicjamareiz]

I want Onion and Kuriza to show up soon... just me? ok

[HAIKEN-00]

I think "Goku Black" is a dumb name, I mean if this guy is literally Goku with dark skin why not bring back Tullece?

Because his movie fits nowhere in the story and having show up would confuse people (Not to mention he was in a movie from 25+ years ago. So the younger and casual fans probably have no idea who he is). Not to mention Tullece is just a Saiyan that looks like Goku, not a evil Goku himself. I think Tullece is more closer to Radditz than Goku if you ask me.

Yet he was technically supposed to represent Goku hadn't he hit his head.

[Hellspawn28]

His character is not Goku though. For Goku Black, we don't know if he is really a evil Goku or someone else using his name.

[Grimlock]

I want Onion and Kuriza to show up soon... just me? ok

If you had asked that question last year, you wouldn't be alone as I'd like to see Kuriza. But then Freeza came back and Frost showed up shortly after just to be the overkill of the characters from that race. So yeah, you're probably alone in this.

Onion wouldn't be my first choice, but if his appearance be like Arale's, then that would be cool.

[Chuquita]

Tullece was so much more "Smarter Raditz" than "Evil Gokû" to me. I'd think an evil Gokû would still have Gokû's personality in there, albeit a warped version; he'd still have his charm it's what I think.

The idea of Gokû Black being someone going around using Gokû's name is an interesting one. I'm still hoping for "tragic backstory Gokû who ultimately couldn't handle something awful that happened to him", but my guesses don't have that high a success rate in Super.

[HAIKEN-00]

The idea of Gokû Black being someone going around using Gokû's name is an interesting one.

I'd actually express interest in this whole concept if that was the case.

[Chuquita]

The idea of Gokû Black being someone going around using Gokû's name is an interesting one.

I'd actually express interest in this whole concept if that was the case.

Building off the idea; since they don't use the kanji in Gokû's name when referring to Gokû Black, maybe it's another word that's pronounced "gokuu", but the kanji used would indicate something else?

What other words are pronounced "gokuu" in Japanese?
*goes to research*

[Avok]

That would be nice, yeah.

[Chuquita]

Back from my research.

Kuu has to be "sky". According to http://www.kanjizone.com/kanjiname.aspx?name=Goku that's the only option for the second half of his name. (unless it's meant to be two words, "go" and "kuu" in which case kuu could be a bunch of things too).

Go, however, can be many different kanji, such as:
-Enlightenment (which is what Gokû uses in his name)
-The number 5 (where all the 590 number puns come from)
-Noon
-Serene, skillful
-A phoenix tree/parasol tree
-Safeguard
-A 5-man squad
-I, my, our, one's own
-A period of time
-Something foreign or barberic

[generalred3]

Back from my research.

Kuu has to be "sky". According to http://www.kanjizone.com/kanjiname.aspx?name=Goku that's the only option for the second half of his name.

Go, however, can be many different kanji, such as:
-Enlightenment (which is what Gokû uses in his name)
-The number 5 (where all the 590 number puns come from)
-Noon
-Serene, skillful
-A phoenix tree/parasol tree
-Safeguard
-A 5-man squad
-I, my, our, one's own
-A period of time
-Something foreign or barberic

I always thought the Kuu in his name meant empty. Unfortunately the Kanji is also used for sky (sora) but I also believe its for empty as in kara, like karate for example.

[Chuquita]

Back from my research.

Kuu has to be "sky". According to http://www.kanjizone.com/kanjiname.aspx?name=Goku that's the only option for the second half of his name.

Go, however, can be many different kanji, such as:
-Enlightenment (which is what Gokû uses in his name)
-The number 5 (where all the 590 number puns come from)
-Noon
-Serene, skillful
-A phoenix tree/parasol tree
-Safeguard
-A 5-man squad
-I, my, our, one's own
-A period of time
-Something foreign or barberic

I always thought the Kuu in his name meant empty. Unfortunately the Kanji is also used for sky (sora) but I also believe its for empty as in kara, like karate for example.

Kuu by itself can be a bunch of different things too. It can be:
-the number 9
-as you said empty and sky
-a district
-pain/suffering
-to survive
-to consume
-to taunt

Source: http://rut.org/cgi-bin/j-e/FG=r/dosearc ... &BG=b&S=26


I'm really curious now if it's meant to be a single word "gokuu" or two words "go kuu" before the word black.

[generalred3]

Back from my research.

Kuu has to be "sky". According to http://www.kanjizone.com/kanjiname.aspx?name=Goku that's the only option for the second half of his name.

Go, however, can be many different kanji, such as:
-Enlightenment (which is what Gokû uses in his name)
-The number 5 (where all the 590 number puns come from)
-Noon
-Serene, skillful
-A phoenix tree/parasol tree
-Safeguard
-A 5-man squad
-I, my, our, one's own
-A period of time
-Something foreign or barberic

I always thought the Kuu in his name meant empty. Unfortunately the Kanji is also used for sky (sora) but I also believe its for empty as in kara, like karate for example.

Kuu by itself can be a bunch of different things too. It can be:
-the number 9
-as you said empty and sky
-a district
-pain/suffering
-to survive
-to consume
-to taunt

Source: http://rut.org/cgi-bin/j-e/FG=r/dosearc ... &BG=b&S=26


I'm really curious now if it's meant to be a single word "gokuu" or two words "go kuu" before the word black.

Gotta love Japanese lol. One of the reasons it can sometimes be painful to self study.

[Pannaliciour]

Akira is playing us, black Goku is Popo.

[HAIKEN-00]

Kuu by itself can be a bunch of different things too. It can be:
-the number 9
-as you said empty and sky
-a district
-pain/suffering
-to survive
-to consume
-to taunt

These three are the most note worthy of them all.

[LightBing]

For some sort of Goku to appear, I can only imagine him being brought back by some sort of necromancer. My imagination is stuck... It would be a very interesting opponent, this supposed necromancer when faced with Goku, Vegeta and company, tries to find stronger bodies.
Then a game of rat and mouse begins, with him traveling across the Universe searching for the graves of the greatest warriors that ever lived, while our guys are in pursuit.

How the arc will jump start will be interesting. It appears Mirai Trunks barely escaped, assuming this Goku Black can't time-travel. I wonder how this will develop. It has a great chance to break the pattern of the fight occurring in just one location.
If Goku Black just appears in front of Capsule Corporation after Mirai Trunks finish his explanation saying "So this is where you run-off to", I'll be mildly upset.

[HAIKEN-00]

If Goku Black just appears in front of Capsule Corporation after Mirai Trunks finish his explanation saying "So this is where you run-off to", I'll be mildly upset.

It's a shame how I could see this most likely happening.

[Araki]

Toriyama said there will be changes in time that could get complicated, Gods getting involved, etc, so i seriously doubt it's gonna be straight to the point like that.

[Noah]

I think "Goku Black" is a dumb name, I mean if this guy is literally Goku with dark skin why not bring back Tullece?

Tullece is non canon

So is Super

[Hellspawn28]

Fans have mixed feelings when Freeza came back. Having Tullece come back would just be worst since he is just a character that appear in one movie from 26 years ago. Most people (kids and causal fans) watching Super will be like "Who the heck is this guy?". Tullece is not a even a Evil Goku, he is just a Saiyan that looks like Goku. He is pretty much Radditz put inside Goku's body.

[Retan]

If it's an evil version of goku I don't know how he'll be a threat, unless he also has trained with with Roshi, Karin, Kami, Kaio and Whis, maybe he's form an evil universe, and all those guys are evil too? Otherwise I don't know, Goku get most of his advantages over Vegeta because he trained with them and learned things that he wouldn't of otherwise.