The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:22 pm

Form 1 Cell vs. Android #16 if it finished

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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:34 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Form 1 Cell vs. Android #16 if it finished
Cell wins. If he could tank #16's strongest attack, I don't what else #16 could throw at Cell, with exception of blowing himself up, that could do any serious harm to Cell.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:41 pm

Dyno wrote:Vegeta beyond God vs "Super" Janemba (Full Power).
I haven't seen the new movie yet but considering that beyond god is above SSJG from the first movie, then Super Janemba gets killed very easily. Super Janemba isn't even in Buuhan's league.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:44 pm

The Monkey King wrote:GT power inflation is frankly sickening and is one of the many reasons I'll never take GT seriously, I'm suprised anyone does tbh.
Pan being > SSJ Vegito just 'because' no just no. It makes Freeza's '4 months of God knows what training' sound reasonable in comparison.
To be fair, Pan is [Ultimate] Gohan's daughter and maybe doesn't need transformations to bring out her full potential if she fights constantly. I mean, her angry moves can impress even Trunks, but I wouldn't put her power above his without any other special reason. She was diligent while Goku was around, but after that she just fought thugs and space goons. One of them stronger than Majin Boo though, but she didn't defeat him alone.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:49 pm

She defeated Nutt, who sensed Goku as a Super Saiyan on Planet Imegga, and was still confident he could beat Goku, so you get Pan ~ Nutt > SS Goku (Imegga) > Base Goku (Imegga) >> Base Pan (Imegga), which just shows how crazy the gains are in the 1st arc.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Dyno » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:52 pm

Angelus wrote: Super Janemba isn't even in Buuhan's league.
That is debatable.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:53 pm

Dyno wrote:
Angelus wrote: Super Janemba isn't even in Buuhan's league.
That is debatable.
What would put him that high?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Dyno » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:56 pm

All his abilities and he also far surpasses Super Saiyan 3 Kakarot.

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:59 pm

Even Base Super Buu far surpasses SS3 Goku, let alone much stronger Buuhan. Also, Goku actually gave Janemba trouble, and hurt him. Buu would tank every hit Goku threw at him.

Buuhan said a fusion of Son and Vegeta is no match for him (prior to knowing Potara > Dance), yet a metamoran fusion of them easily overwhelmed Janemba.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Dyno » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:05 pm

I just remember Kakarot hitting him with a single kick, not a trouble... I don't think that specifically means something enough.

"Prior knowing Potara > Fusion"? When was that even stated during their fight?

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Post by singsing » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:15 pm

Even if Super Janemba was in Buuhan's league, that's about 13.37 leagues below God Vegeta. Vegeta still casually rips Janemba apart.

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Post by Hugo Boss » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:20 pm

I think it's safe to separate FnF Vegeta's league from the Majin Boos' league, to where Janemba belongs, while it can be a different league from Boo Arc Vegeta. FnF Base Vegeta might be comparable to the likes of Super Vegetto or Super Gogeta.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:22 pm

Dyno wrote:I just remember Kakarot hitting him with a single kick, not a trouble... I don't think that specifically means something enough.

"Prior knowing Potara > Fusion"? When was that even stated during their fight?
From what I recall, Janemba only gained the upperhand with his teleportation. Goku landed more than a single kick, if I remember correctly.

Buuhan says Now there’s another human with great power! But naturally he’s no match for me, even if they merged! after sensing Vegeta, when he was traveling towards Goku. No one told Buu the potara were stronger, so Buu's estimate for their fusion was based on the metamoran fusion. Since Buu would have knowledge on that.

So according to Buu: Himself > Metamoran Fusion of Son and Vegeta

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:26 pm

Alright, here's one:

Post-ROSAT SSJ Goten and Trunks, Buu Sagas SSJ2 Goku, Majin Vegeta, and Gohan VS Gray Buu-- no candy beam, absorbing, or blowing up of planets

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:04 am

Angelus wrote:Alright, here's one:

Post-ROSAT SSJ Goten and Trunks, Buu Sagas SSJ2 Goku, Majin Vegeta, and Gohan VS Gray Buu-- no candy beam, absorbing, or blowing up of planets
Unless Goten and Trunks fused, they're all screwed. I personally believe any form of Boo plows through all SSJ2 level and below.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Diotor » Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:42 am

Angelus wrote:Alright, here's one:

Post-ROSAT SSJ Goten and Trunks, Buu Sagas SSJ2 Goku, Majin Vegeta, and Gohan VS Gray Buu-- no candy beam, absorbing, or blowing up of planets
Buu's just got too much power and his regeneration gives him a huge advantage. Grey Buu would eventually chew through them.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:59 am

Angelus wrote:Alright, here's one:

Post-ROSAT SSJ Goten and Trunks, Buu Sagas SSJ2 Goku, Majin Vegeta, and Gohan VS Gray Buu-- no candy beam, absorbing, or blowing up of planets
Even Good Buu solos. Wrath Buu is just pure overkill.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Birusu16 » Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:25 am

Dyno wrote:Vegeta beyond God vs "Super" Janemba (Full Power).
Are we talking about base Vegeta (god power absorbed) or SSGSS Vegeta here? Either absolutely stomps Janemba, but depending on which one it could be less of a stomp or more of a stomp. Not that it matters I suppose. :lol:

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:27 am

Angelus wrote:Alright, here's one:

Post-ROSAT SSJ Goten and Trunks, Buu Sagas SSJ2 Goku, Majin Vegeta, and Gohan VS Gray Buu-- no candy beam, absorbing, or blowing up of planets
Grey Buu wrecks everyone in his path.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Dyno » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:09 pm

Birusu16 wrote:Are we talking about base Vegeta (god power absorbed) or SSGSS Vegeta here? Either absolutely stomps Janemba, but depending on which one it could be less of a stomp or more of a stomp. Not that it matters I suppose. :lol:
"Saiyan beyond God" means base form after absorbed Super Saiyan God powers, but before actually reaching "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan", since we don't know if the latter form is available right after you absorb Super Saiyan God powers or if it requires a training (Wiss' training, in this case).

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