Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by LowRyder2005 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:52 am

The fact that he was able to hurt Ultimate Gohan means he's far above SS1 tier. And if Nink is SS3 tier then Murichim should be too since he rammed into Toppo. Goku using SSB doesn't mean he needed to.
To be honest, the fight is pretty ambiguous and I don't think there's really enough to conclude this either. Obuni also thinks of base Gohan as a particularly strong warrior who can "keep up with him" after he sees base Gohan perform, and they really look pretty evenly matched if not for Obuni's concealment ability (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlcJudSu86Q).

The problem is that if Obuni was displaying power as strong as Ultimate Gohan, base Gohan should've been knocked out cold after one hit, and he gets hit many times by Obuni before going Ultimate without really sustaining any significant damage; if Obuni wasn't displaying such power, then Ultimate Gohan shouldn't have been hurt by his blows. Either way, one of them needs to be suppressing himself.
When you combine these two facts, I think it's not far-fetched to infer Gohan might have also been the one who kept his power output low when going Ultimate, in favor of perhaps keeping his stamina, thus making Obuni closer to his base. Hypothetically.

Although I agree that if we think of virtually irrelevant characters like Nink as SS3-tier (yeah, I know, Goku went Blue to break his grip, but I don't deem it significant enough given how much he spams Blue in the early phases), then Obuni would probably "deserve" to be far, far stronger than a regular SS at the very least.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by Bullza » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:13 am

I still think Obuni would be weaker than Super Saiyan 2 Goku, never mind fodder like Nink.

Super Saiyan 2 Goku gave Ultimate Gohan a much tougher fight than Obuni did. Yeah maybe Gohan was a bit more serious against Obuni but he wasn't just playing around with Goku and he was getting man handled in that fight until the end.

People shouldn't underestimate these regular Super Saiyan forms so much, there's not many characters even in this Tournament that are as strong as just the first Super Saiyan. Bergamo was probably one of the stronger ones to be eliminated so far and he was made a fool of by Super Saiyan Goku even when he'd been given a ton of power.

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Post by DBZ Macky » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:35 am

I really do think that most characters in the ToP are around Base Saiyans' tier. The rest are in Super Saiyan (1/2/3) tier like Caulifla, Kale, Ribrianne, etc. while only a select few are in the God tier, namely Hit, Toppo, Jiren, SSB Vegeta and SSB Goku.

I think Obni is only around Base Gohan's strength, or perhaps a little stronger. Gohan could probably take him on in SS1/2 but why do that when he has the less stamina consuming and more powerful "Ultimate" form?

It makes sense too that most guys are weaker than or around True Form Freeza's (Namek) level, since he was the strongest guy in Universe 7 for a very long time (barring magical beings like Boo or the artificial humans). I mean, if we take Goku and co. out of the equation, then Universe 7's team would look like this:

1. Boo
2. Dabra
3. AboKado
4. Freeza
5. King Cold
6. Yakon
7. Oozaru Vegeta
8. Pui-Pui
9. Ginyu
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Post by JazzMazz » Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:14 am

Here's a list of how I rank the universes in terms of strength in comparison to the previous arc. Please reply with any suggestions or improvements.

Universe 2
Strongest level: Unknown
Upper level:Current Super Saiyan level
Middle tier: Unknown
Lower tier: Unknown

Universe 3
Strongest level shown: Current Super Saiyan level
Upper level:Base Saiyan level, Buu Arc SS1's tops
Middle tier:Unknown level
Low tier:Unknown

Universe 4
Strongest level: Unknown
Upper level:Android level(from android saga range from 17-20)
Middle tier: Android level(from andriod saga)
Lower tier:Max power Nappa

Universe 6
Strongest level:God level
Upper level:Low end god Tier
Middle tier: Current Super Saiyan tier
Lower Level: Base Saiyans

Universe 7
Strongest level:God of destruction
Upper level:God level
Middle tier:Super saiyans
Lower tier: Saiyan to Freeza arc level strength range

Universe 9
Strongest level:Super Saiyan
Upper level:Slightly weaker than Super Saiyan
Middle tier:SS1's during the Buu arc
Lower tier:Unknown

Universe 10
Strongest level:Comparable to ultimate Gohan during Buu arc
Upper level:SS2 Gohan during the Cell games
Middle tier:Super Saiyans during the Cell games
Lower level:Unknown

Universe 11
Strongest level:Greater than God of Destruction(presumed)
Upper level:God of destruction
Middle tier: Current Super Saiyan tier
Lower tier: Base Saiyans

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by avasatu » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:04 pm

Obni's hits on Ultimate Gohan made him grimace. He's SS2 tier probably, maybe higher.

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Post by CJStriker_CBR » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:22 pm

JazzMazz wrote:Here's a list of how I rank the universes in terms of strength in comparison to the previous arc. Please reply with any suggestions or improvements.

Universe 2
Strongest level: Unknown
Upper level:Current Super Saiyan level
Middle tier: Unknown
Lower tier: Unknown
I have been Observing and Calculating Universe 2's Power Levels for Sometime Now and these are My findings.

So far most all all the characters Levels are unknown but I have to break it down like this for those that have been shown in battle;

Vikal ~~~ Likely Goku-Base Level, Maybe SS 1 at best.
Rozie ~~~ To Early To tell, right Now Goku-Base Level, Maybe SS 1, need more story to know.
Jimeze ~~~ To Early To Tell, Right Now Fought SS-1 Goku for a Moment, Maybe SS 1 Tier, need more story to know.
Kakunsa ~~~ Was Doing Well against 17, Lowest SS3 Tier, Highest Somewhere in the are SSG-Tier.
Ribrianne ~~~ Easly Fought SS-Vegeta and Went Even with 17 with no signs of Fatigue, So ~~~ High Point in a Fight is Lower SSBlue Tier, has Possibility to Go Higher cause of Limits not yet tested yet!

So Strongest Level so Far is Lower Level SS-Blue Tier For Ribrianne, but She has the Potential to go Higher, That is what I see might happen, it is Up to Toei.

I put allot of thought into this for Universes 2 so It goes by Much Observations of Them, Care and Respect to Both Universe 2 and the Other Fighters especially Universe 7. :thumbup:

So it might look like this

Universe 2
Strongest level: Lower Level SS-Blue ~ Limits not yet Truly Tested
Upper level: SS3 ~ SSGod
Middle tier: SS 1
Lower tier: Base Goku Level
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by pacz360 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:37 pm

Jesus christ the downplaying is awful current gohan is around blue level how on earth are people are putting him at current ssj2 goku depsite the narrator stating he showed power that rivals goku during him facing off blue
Obuni is around ssjg to low blue level

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Post by pacz360 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:50 pm

Anyway considering the downplaying here is disgusting so heres my tier list
Above blue level:
Jiren
New form goku
Ssjb kk x10 goku
Toppo full power
Current blue level:
Top tier:Ssjb goku,ssjb vegeta,golden freeza, base toppo,Hit
Mid tier blue level:ultimate gohan,17,kale,dyspo,ribrianne amped bergamo
Ssjg to Low blue tier:current ssjg goku,Obuni,
Current powered up base and ssj forms 1-3
Ssj2/3 tier:
Ssj3 goku
Ssj2 vegeta
Ssj2 goku
Piccolo
Ssj2 caulifla
Maji
Ssj 1 tier:
Ssj goku
Ssj vegeta
Ssj caulifla
Ssj cabba
Ssj kale
Slim buu
Magetta
Khaseral
Bergamo damage soak in the beginning
Kunshee(durabilitiy should put him higher)
Base tier above ssj3 gotenks to unkown extent
Base goku
Base vegeta
Bergamo
Base gohan
Base cabba
Base caulifla
Rozie
Unknown at the moment tier
FF Frost
FF Freeza
Lavender
Basil
18
Ganos
Roshi
Decori
Caway
Narapapa
Murichim
Vikal
Krillin
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by CJStriker_CBR » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:08 pm

pacz360 wrote:Jesus christ the downplaying is awful current gohan is around blue level how on earth are people are putting him at current ssj2 goku depsite the narrator stating he showed power that rivals goku during him facing off blue
Obuni is around ssjg to low blue level
WHY would some say Gohan be at Current SSJ2 Levels?! :crazy:

The does Not make any sense, I Agree with You on That!

He Fought his Father Goku at a Very Good Degree when Goku went SSJ2 and it took Goku Going Blue to Match Up with Gohan, Yea Goku Won but it took allot for Goku to do it and even Goku said he was Very Impressed with his son saying he had been looking for a fighter to fight with so long and Gohan was their by his side all Along! That was Clear Pride in what Gohan had Achieved up to that point!

Really If I had to Give Gohan an Official Power-Ranking:

Highest Form-Ultimate Gohan ~~~ Lowest would be Lower SSJB, but Truly believe he is in the Mid to knocking on the Door High Ranges of SSJBlue!
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by pacz360 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:36 pm

CJStriker_CBR wrote:
pacz360 wrote:Jesus christ the downplaying is awful current gohan is around blue level how on earth are people are putting him at current ssj2 goku depsite the narrator stating he showed power that rivals goku during him facing off blue
Obuni is around ssjg to low blue level
WHY would some say Gohan be at Current SSJ2 Levels?! :crazy:

The does Not make any sense, I Agree with You on That!

He Fought his Father Goku at a Very Good Degree when Goku went SSJ2 and it took Goku Going Blue to Match Up with Gohan, Yea Goku Won but it took allot for Goku to do it and even Goku said he was Very Impressed with his son saying he had been looking for a fighter to fight with so long and Gohan was their by his side all Along! That was Clear Pride in what Gohan had Achieved up to that point!

Really If I had to Give Gohan an Official Power-Ranking:

Highest Form-Ultimate Gohan ~~~ Lowest would be Lower SSJB, but Truly believe he is in the Mid to knocking on the Door High Ranges of SSJBlue!
Agreed
Ribrianne seems to me to be around low blue to mid due to her fight with 17 but like him she could be much higher

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by HeroR » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:47 pm

pacz360 wrote:Anyway considering the downplaying here is disgusting so heres my tier list
Above blue level:
Jiren
New form goku
Ssjb kk x10 goku
Toppo full power
Current blue level:
Top tier:Ssjb goku,ssjb vegeta,golden freeza, base toppo,Hit
Mid tier blue level:ultimate gohan,17,kale,dyspo,ribrianne amped bergamo
Ssjg to Low blue tier:current ssjg goku,Obuni,
Current powered up base and ssj forms 1-3
Ssj2/3 tier:
Ssj3 goku
Ssj2 vegeta
Ssj2 goku
Piccolo
Ssj2 caulifla
Maji
Ssj 1 tier:
Ssj goku
Ssj vegeta
Ssj caulifla
Ssj cabba
Ssj kale
Slim buu
Magetta
Khaseral
Bergamo damage soak in the beginning
Kunshee(durabilitiy should put him higher)
Base tier above ssj3 gotenks to unkown extent
Base goku
Base vegeta
Bergamo
Base gohan
Base cabba
Base caulifla
Rozie
Unknown at the moment tier
FF Frost
FF Freeza
Lavender
Basil
18
Ganos
Roshi
Decori
Caway
Narapapa
Murichim
Vikal
Krillin
Piccolo is weaker than base form Goku.

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pacz360 wrote:Jesus christ the downplaying is awful current gohan is around blue level how on earth are people are putting him at current ssj2 goku depsite the narrator stating he showed power that rivals goku during him facing off blue
Obuni is around ssjg to low blue level
WHY would some say Gohan be at Current SSJ2 Levels?! :crazy:

The does Not make any sense, I Agree with You on That!

He Fought his Father Goku at a Very Good Degree when Goku went SSJ2 and it took Goku Going Blue to Match Up with Gohan, Yea Goku Won but it took allot for Goku to do it and even Goku said he was Very Impressed with his son saying he had been looking for a fighter to fight with so long and Gohan was their by his side all Along! That was Clear Pride in what Gohan had Achieved up to that point!

Really If I had to Give Gohan an Official Power-Ranking:

Highest Form-Ultimate Gohan ~~~ Lowest would be Lower SSJB, but Truly believe he is in the Mid to knocking on the Door High Ranges of SSJBlue!
Goku went Blue because Gohan literally begged him to, not because he actually forced him.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by CJStriker_CBR » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:53 pm

pacz360 wrote:
CJStriker_CBR wrote:
pacz360 wrote:Jesus christ the downplaying is awful current gohan is around blue level how on earth are people are putting him at current ssj2 goku depsite the narrator stating he showed power that rivals goku during him facing off blue
Obuni is around ssjg to low blue level
WHY would some say Gohan be at Current SSJ2 Levels?! :crazy:

The does Not make any sense, I Agree with You on That!

He Fought his Father Goku at a Very Good Degree when Goku went SSJ2 and it took Goku Going Blue to Match Up with Gohan, Yea Goku Won but it took allot for Goku to do it and even Goku said he was Very Impressed with his son saying he had been looking for a fighter to fight with so long and Gohan was their by his side all Along! That was Clear Pride in what Gohan had Achieved up to that point!

Really If I had to Give Gohan an Official Power-Ranking:

Highest Form-Ultimate Gohan ~~~ Lowest would be Lower SSJB, but Truly believe he is in the Mid to knocking on the Door High Ranges of SSJBlue!
Agreed
Ribrianne seems to me to be around low blue to mid due to her fight with 17 but like him she could be much higher
Indeed Glad You Agree with My Observation of Gohan cause Indeed I know what I saw in his fight with Goku before the ToP and their is No Way what I saw Gohan do was Lesser then anything SSJBlue can do at the Very Least! I still think Gohan will have Higher Levels to go to in the ToP and even maybe another Form like his Father will have, but he is indeed one of the Top Tiers on U7 and in this ToP in my book by what I have seen.

I also know what it is like to feel you Favorite is getting Downplayed as well, that they are not getting looked at as the powerhouse you see they are, so indeed I feel you on that and wanted to give my Go at what I saw and Support Gohan on what he could do.

The same feel I when I read other places about Brianne de Chateau/Ribrianne.

I am Glad you see as I do that she is at Least around Lower Blue at this point cause of her Fight with 17, who himself is at least in the Blue Range as well after his fight with Goku.

But many keep Nerfing her Down for Some Reason :crazy: and I really don't get it after her fight with 17, so I know what it is like to see your favorite being seen as Nerfed down.

SSJBlue at ANY Level is a Powerful Level indeed, it can't be counted down and looked as being belittled at all, so Both Ribrianne and Gohan, threw their own Unique ways in Achieving their own Unique Paves-To-Power have achieved a Very High Form and I think it is not their limits either Yet.

My Finally Observation on Brianne de Chateau/Ribrianne, She is the Definition of a Sailor Moon Archtype and in the Anime/Manga Sailor Moon would always have a Super Form to go to in times of Great Battle/Final Foes, so I am in Theory, but one that has a foundation to it, believe the Brianne de Chateau/Ribrianne has another more powerful form/level of power yet to be used.

We will see how Toei Evolves both Gohan and Brianne de Chateau/Ribrianne as it goes forward, but character and storywise they both have Good Frameworks to achieve Higher Levels! :thumbup:
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by pacz360 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:05 pm

CJStriker_CBR wrote:
pacz360 wrote:
CJStriker_CBR wrote:
WHY would some say Gohan be at Current SSJ2 Levels?! :crazy:

The does Not make any sense, I Agree with You on That!

He Fought his Father Goku at a Very Good Degree when Goku went SSJ2 and it took Goku Going Blue to Match Up with Gohan, Yea Goku Won but it took allot for Goku to do it and even Goku said he was Very Impressed with his son saying he had been looking for a fighter to fight with so long and Gohan was their by his side all Along! That was Clear Pride in what Gohan had Achieved up to that point!

Really If I had to Give Gohan an Official Power-Ranking:

Highest Form-Ultimate Gohan ~~~ Lowest would be Lower SSJB, but Truly believe he is in the Mid to knocking on the Door High Ranges of SSJBlue!
Agreed
Ribrianne seems to me to be around low blue to mid due to her fight with 17 but like him she could be much higher
Indeed Glad You Agree with My Observation of Gohan cause Indeed I know what I saw in his fight with Goku before the ToP and their is No Way what I saw Gohan do was Lesser then anything SSJBlue can do at the Very Least! I still think Gohan will have Higher Levels to go to in the ToP and even maybe another Form like his Father will have, but he is indeed one of the Top Tiers on U7 and in this ToP in my book by what I have seen.

I also know what it is like to feel you Favorite is getting Downplayed as well, that they are not getting looked at as the powerhouse you see they are, so indeed I feel you on that and wanted to give my Go at what I saw and Support Gohan on what he could do.

The same feel I when I read other places about Brianne de Chateau/Ribrianne.

I am Glad you see as I do that she is at Least around Lower Blue at this point cause of her Fight with 17, who himself is at least in the Blue Range as well after his fight with Goku.

But many keep Nerfing her Down for Some Reason :crazy: and I really don't get it after her fight with 17, so I know what it is like to see your favorite being seen as Nerfed down.

SSJBlue at ANY Level is a Powerful Level indeed, it can't be counted down and looked as being belittled at all, so Both Ribrianne and Gohan, threw their own Unique ways in Achieving their own Unique Paves-To-Power have achieved a Very High Form and I think it is not their limits either Yet.

My Finally Observation on Brianne de Chateau/Ribrianne, She is the Definition of a Sailor Moon Archtype and in the Anime/Manga Sailor Moon would always have a Super Form to go to in times of Great Battle/Final Foes, so I am in Theory, but one that has a foundation to it, believe the Brianne de Chateau/Ribrianne has another more powerful form/level of power yet to be used.

We will see how Toei Evolves both Gohan and Brianne de Chateau/Ribrianne as it goes forward, but character and storywise they both have Good Frameworks to achieve Higher Levels! :thumbup:
Her fight with vegeta and 17 should tell anyone the difference in them
With ssj vegeta she was laughing her ass off during the fight while with 17 she was serious as with him and both traded blows on even grounds

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Post by CJStriker_CBR » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:10 pm

pacz360 wrote:Anyway considering the downplaying here is disgusting so heres my tier list
Above blue level:
Jiren
New form goku
Ssjb kk x10 goku
Toppo full power
Current blue level:
Top tier:Ssjb goku,ssjb vegeta,golden freeza, base toppo,Hit
Mid tier blue level:ultimate gohan,17,kale,dyspo,ribrianne amped bergamo
Ssjg to Low blue tier:current ssjg goku,Obuni,
Current powered up base and ssj forms 1-3
Ssj2/3 tier:
Ssj3 goku
Ssj2 vegeta
Ssj2 goku
Piccolo
Ssj2 caulifla
Maji
Ssj 1 tier:
Ssj goku
Ssj vegeta
Ssj caulifla
Ssj cabba
Ssj kale
Slim buu
Magetta
Khaseral
Bergamo damage soak in the beginning
Kunshee(durabilitiy should put him higher)
Base tier above ssj3 gotenks to unkown extent
Base goku
Base vegeta
Bergamo
Base gohan
Base cabba
Base caulifla
Rozie
Unknown at the moment tier
FF Frost
FF Freeza
Lavender
Basil
18
Ganos
Roshi
Decori
Caway
Narapapa
Murichim
Vikal
Krillin
I would Put Universe 2's Kakunsa/Sank Ku, the Girl who fought 17 in Episode #102 at the Highest SSJ-God to Knocking on the Door Low blue tier but just missing it and her Lowest being Highest Level of SSJ3!

Rozie is at least Base Level Goku, but I still think she has higher levels, but it is up to Toei to show us more.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by pacz360 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:45 pm

CJStriker_CBR wrote:
pacz360 wrote:Anyway considering the downplaying here is disgusting so heres my tier list
Above blue level:
Jiren
New form goku
Ssjb kk x10 goku
Toppo full power
Current blue level:
Top tier:Ssjb goku,ssjb vegeta,golden freeza, base toppo,Hit
Mid tier blue level:ultimate gohan,17,kale,dyspo,ribrianne amped bergamo
Ssjg to Low blue tier:current ssjg goku,Obuni,
Current powered up base and ssj forms 1-3
Ssj2/3 tier:
Ssj3 goku
Ssj2 vegeta
Ssj2 goku
Piccolo
Ssj2 caulifla
Maji
Ssj 1 tier:
Ssj goku
Ssj vegeta
Ssj caulifla
Ssj cabba
Ssj kale
Slim buu
Magetta
Khaseral
Bergamo damage soak in the beginning
Kunshee(durabilitiy should put him higher)
Base tier above ssj3 gotenks to unkown extent
Base goku
Base vegeta
Bergamo
Base gohan
Base cabba
Base caulifla
Rozie
Unknown at the moment tier
FF Frost
FF Freeza
Lavender
Basil
18
Ganos
Roshi
Decori
Caway
Narapapa
Murichim
Vikal
Krillin
I would Put Universe 2's Kakunsa/Sank Ku, the Girl who fought 17 in Episode #102 at the Highest SSJ-God to Knocking on the Door Low blue tier but just missing it and her Lowest being Highest Level of SSJ3!

Rozie is at least Base Level Goku, but I still think she has higher levels, but it is up to Toei to show us more.
I agree Rozie could've been eliminated by goku yet is still on the game so she could be higher
Sank ku could be around that tier as well hopefully toei show more of her in the future

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Post by Hakaishin Liquir » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:38 pm

pacz360 wrote:Anyway considering the downplaying here is disgusting so heres my tier list
Above blue level:
Jiren
New form goku
Ssjb kk x10 goku
Toppo full power
Current blue level:
Top tier:Ssjb goku,ssjb vegeta,golden freeza, base toppo,Hit
Mid tier blue level:ultimate gohan,17,kale,dyspo,ribrianne amped bergamo
Ssjg to Low blue tier:current ssjg goku,Obuni,
Current powered up base and ssj forms 1-3
Ssj2/3 tier:
Ssj3 goku
Ssj2 vegeta
Ssj2 goku
Piccolo
Ssj2 caulifla
Maji
Ssj 1 tier:
Ssj goku
Ssj vegeta
Ssj caulifla
Ssj cabba
Ssj kale
Slim buu
Magetta
Khaseral
Bergamo damage soak in the beginning
Kunshee(durabilitiy should put him higher)
Base tier above ssj3 gotenks to unkown extent
Base goku
Base vegeta
Bergamo
Base gohan
Base cabba
Base caulifla
Rozie
Unknown at the moment tier
FF Frost
FF Freeza
Lavender
Basil
18
Ganos
Roshi
Decori
Caway
Narapapa
Murichim
Vikal
Krillin
How is Dyspo mid SSB tier when Hit was trolling him after he learned how Dyspo's technique works?

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by Doctor. » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:01 pm

Since everyone's doing a list, I may as well do one too. A lot of these placements are arbitrary, especially towards the lower tiers. Characters in bold are for reference.

[spoiler]Tier A:
Jiren
SSBKK Goku
SSB Goku / SSB Vegeta / Golden Freeza / Toppo
Hit
SSBKKx2 Goku (Champa arc)
SSG Goku / Dyspo

Tier B:
Berserker Kale
Freeza
Ultimate Gohan
SS Vegetto (Boo arc)
Android #17
SS3 Goku
Obuni (U10)

Tier C:
Kunshi (U11)
SS2 Goku / SS2 Vegeta
SS Kale
SS2 Caulifla
Mr. Boo
Ribrianne (U2)
Frost
Piccolo

Tier D:
Magetta
Maji Kayo (U3)
Kahseral (U11)
Rubalt (U10)
Nink (U4)
SS Goku / SS Vegeta
SS Caulifla
SS Cabba
Perfect Cell
Bergamo
Basil
Lavenda
Murichim (U10)
Napapa (U10)

Tier E:
Powered-up Ganos (U4)
Narirama (U3)
Android 18
Majora (U4)
Kakunsa (U2)
Shosa (U4)
Jimeze (U2)
Cocotte (U11)
Tupper (U11)
Cheppil (U9)
Zoiray (U11)
Kettol (U11)
Base Goku (fuck you) / Base Vegeta / Base Gohan
Base Caulifla
Base Cabba
Rozie (U2)
Botamo
Kuririn
Tenshinhan
Ganos (U4)
Vuon (U11)
SS Goku (Namek)
Brianne / Su Roas / Sanka Ku (U2)
Nigrisshi (U3)
Darkori (U4)
Hysopp (U9)
Hop (U9)
Roselle (U9)
Roshi
The Preecho (U3)
50% Freeza
Vikal (U2)
Caway (U4)
Lilibeu (U10)
Murisam (U10)
Mechiop (U10)
Oregano (U9)
Dium (U10)
Comfrey (U9)
Sorrel (U9)
Base Kale[/spoiler]

Fuck, those lower tiers are messy.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by pacz360 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:08 pm

Hakaishin Liquir wrote:
pacz360 wrote:Anyway considering the downplaying here is disgusting so heres my tier list
Above blue level:
Jiren
New form goku
Ssjb kk x10 goku
Toppo full power
Current blue level:
Top tier:Ssjb goku,ssjb vegeta,golden freeza, base toppo,Hit
Mid tier blue level:ultimate gohan,17,kale,dyspo,ribrianne amped bergamo
Ssjg to Low blue tier:current ssjg goku,Obuni,
Current powered up base and ssj forms 1-3
Ssj2/3 tier:
Ssj3 goku
Ssj2 vegeta
Ssj2 goku
Piccolo
Ssj2 caulifla
Maji
Ssj 1 tier:
Ssj goku
Ssj vegeta
Ssj caulifla
Ssj cabba
Ssj kale
Slim buu
Magetta
Khaseral
Bergamo damage soak in the beginning
Kunshee(durabilitiy should put him higher)
Base tier above ssj3 gotenks to unkown extent
Base goku
Base vegeta
Bergamo
Base gohan
Base cabba
Base caulifla
Rozie
Unknown at the moment tier
FF Frost
FF Freeza
Lavender
Basil
18
Ganos
Roshi
Decori
Caway
Narapapa
Murichim
Vikal
Krillin
How is Dyspo mid SSB tier when Hit was trolling him after he learned how Dyspo's technique works?
Dyspo still was able to hurt Hit multiple times during their brawl

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by The gr » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:12 pm

Doctor. wrote:Since everyone's doing a list, I may as well do one too. A lot of these placements are arbitrary, especially towards the lower tiers. Characters in bold are for reference.

[spoiler]Tier A:
Jiren
SSBKK Goku
SSB Goku / SSB Vegeta / Golden Freeza / Toppo
Hit
SSBKKx2 Goku (Champa arc)
SSG Goku / Dyspo

Tier B:
Berserker Kale
Freeza
Ultimate Gohan
SS Vegetto (Boo arc)
Android #17
SS3 Goku
Obuni (U10)

Tier C:
Kunshi (U11)
SS2 Goku / SS2 Vegeta
SS Kale
SS2 Caulifla
Mr. Boo
Ribrianne (U2)
Frost
Piccolo

Tier D:
Magetta
Maji Kayo (U3)
Kahseral (U11)
Rubalt (U10)
Nink (U4)
SS Goku / SS Vegeta
SS Caulifla
SS Cabba
Perfect Cell
Bergamo
Basil
Lavenda
Murichim (U10)
Napapa (U10)

Tier E:
Powered-up Ganos (U4)
Narirama (U3)
Android 18
Majora (U4)
Kakunsa (U2)
Shosa (U4)
Jimeze (U2)
Cocotte (U11)
Tupper (U11)
Cheppil (U9)
Zoiray (U11)
Kettol (U11)
Base Goku (fuck you) / Base Vegeta / Base Gohan
Base Caulifla
Base Cabba
Rozie (U2)
Botamo
Kuririn
Tenshinhan
Ganos (U4)
Vuon (U11)
SS Goku (Namek)
Brianne / Su Roas / Sanka Ku (U2)
Nigrisshi (U3)
Darkori (U4)
Hysopp (U9)
Hop (U9)
Roselle (U9)
Roshi
The Preecho (U3)
50% Freeza
Vikal (U2)
Caway (U4)
Lilibeu (U10)
Murisam (U10)
Mechiop (U10)
Oregano (U9)
Dium (U10)
Comfrey (U9)
Sorrel (U9)
Base Kale[/spoiler]

Fuck, those lower tiers are messy.
I think krillin & #18 should be close in term of power meanwhile Caway is weaker than Comfrey because he tanked the z fighter attack & Hysopp/chappil could be relative to the trio & why Ganos is above #18?
    I will do this list until this mess of a tournaments is done,is a chore to scale the base saiyans :crazy:
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    Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

    Post by Doctor. » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:16 pm

    The gr wrote:I think krillin & #18 should be close in term of power meanwhile Caway is weaker than Comfrey because he tanked the z fighter attack & Hysopp/chappil could be relative to the trio & why Ganos is above #18?
      I will do this list until mess of a tournaments finish
      They are close in power, there are just too many characters who have showcased they're above the base Saiyans while at the same time not showing enough for me to put them above android 18. So there's a huge list of characters between her and Kuririn when the gap between all of those characters is relatively small.

      Ganos is a bit arbitrary but Roshi did say he'd become dangerous for Goku, plus he was U4's leader. He's certainly not as weak as everyone is saying just because he lost to Roshi, they made it a point that he's much stronger.

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