"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
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TheDevilsCorpse
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It might have something to do with the developer, which countries the games are being released in and some kinda Japanese laws or something too. Sagas, and the Legacy of Goku series (which I forgot about), featured Gohan with just the one arm and both were done by western developers and not released in Japan. But the Sparking and Raging Blast games were developed by Spike in Japan and saw release in the Japanese market. I have to wonder if they aren't more strict on this sort of thing when games see an eastern release; Due to Japan's history, they don't like to show anything that could be related to yubitsume (the act of cutting off a finger to pay for a crime, usually associated with the yakuza or burakumin), they would have to pay a fine to show characters with less on TV. So all the humanoid characters are given 5 digits in the anime, regardless of the number they had in the manga. Maybe it's something similar? Dunno...
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes
But in Dragon Ball Heroes too ?DBZGTKOSDH wrote:We have seen Future Trunks & Future Gohan as Super Saiyan 2 in the video games, at least.gokugambitoptimus wrote:Although i think we need more characters with super saiyan 2 form
Sorry for my ignorance
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No, we got Future Trunks as a Super Saiyan 2 in Budokai 2, 3, and Infinite World, while we had Future Gohan as a Super Saiyan 2 & Ultimate in Shin Budokai 2.gokugambitoptimus wrote:But in Dragon Ball Heroes too ?DBZGTKOSDH wrote:We have seen Future Trunks & Future Gohan as Super Saiyan 2 in the video games, at least.gokugambitoptimus wrote:Although i think we need more characters with super saiyan 2 form
Sorry for my ignorance
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Why are people so picky about his arm still missing if he's dead?...
Remember that bodies return to normal when they reach the afterlife.
For example: Goku and Piccolo Vs. Raditz. Goku dies with a huge hole in his stomach, then reaches Otherworld in perfect shape.
(Just make it an alternate costume. Who freaking cares...)
Remember that bodies return to normal when they reach the afterlife.
For example: Goku and Piccolo Vs. Raditz. Goku dies with a huge hole in his stomach, then reaches Otherworld in perfect shape.
(Just make it an alternate costume. Who freaking cares...)
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I don't think that Gohan would get his arm back, since his wound wasn't fresh, but it had already healed. Like with the Saiyan tails.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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It's not so much about whether his arm would or wouldn't come back, at least to me - it's just that having only one arm is another way to make Future Gohan stand out as his own character addition to the roster.
That and, while I appreciate the touch of some other games, like BT3, making him only use the one arm while fighting, as it seems like that's a nod to the fact that the other arm shouldn't be there - it still seems a little...I'unno. Just seems like if he's got both arms, they may as well have him use both, or they should find a way to make it okay for him to just have the one arm.
That and, while I appreciate the touch of some other games, like BT3, making him only use the one arm while fighting, as it seems like that's a nod to the fact that the other arm shouldn't be there - it still seems a little...I'unno. Just seems like if he's got both arms, they may as well have him use both, or they should find a way to make it okay for him to just have the one arm.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes
Tien's scar? Yamcha's? Goku and Vegeta's tails?hulkty wrote:Why are people so picky about his arm still missing if he's dead?...
Remember that bodies return to normal when they reach the afterlife.
For example: Goku and Piccolo Vs. Raditz. Goku dies with a huge hole in his stomach, then reaches Otherworld in perfect shape.
(Just make it an alternate costume. Who freaking cares...)
Some things return to normal, not all. And as Gyt Kaliba said, it's not about the arm, it's about making him different. Otherwise we just have another Gohan.
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Someone said this before in another thread, it's like everyone is out to get Gohan. "What are you doing with that? You take that arm out right this instant, mister!"
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I think I prefer Ultimate Future Gohan instead of him Being an SSJ3 but eh what ever... These random SSJ3 Characters will be a huge selling point if they're included in Battle of Z. i can just imagine all the generic DBZ fans going "HOOOOLYYY SHIITTTZ OMFG SS FUCKING 3 FUTURE GOHAN!!!!111!! BADASS!!!1 GOGETA SS3, FUTURE TRUNKS SS3 DAYUM JIZZ"
Seriously though they're really killing SSJ3, who's next Tulles, Onio? King Vegeta? I bet they're going to give the form to every other Saiyan before it gets to Vegetto or hell even GT Goten.
Seriously though they're really killing SSJ3, who's next Tulles, Onio? King Vegeta? I bet they're going to give the form to every other Saiyan before it gets to Vegetto or hell even GT Goten.
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SSj3 is the most popular form and it has the coolest look to it. I think Vegito, GT Goten and mayb Bardock will get SSj3 forms. It won't make sense for someone like King Vegeta have one when he has yet to have a normal SSj form in Heroes yet.
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So Tullece, Onio, King Vegeta = bad; Goten: GT = good. Right.goku the krump dancer wrote:Seriously though they're really killing SSJ3, who's next Tulles, Onio? King Vegeta? I bet they're going to give the form to every other Saiyan before it gets to Vegetto or hell even GT Goten.
I know what you mean but it really doesn't make much sense for half these guys to get Super Saiyan 3 either. I mean, why the fuck does Trunks: GT have it? Not even Trunks: Future makes sense.Hellspawn28 wrote:It won't make sense for someone like King Vegeta have one when he has yet to have a normal SSj form in Heroes yet.
And about Vegetto... It's a fusion that worked once and cannot work ever again. They might be using that as a reason to not give him more forms.
Anyway, I'm taking this new Trunks: Future to be the one that died against Cell.
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Well, yeah. Seems perfectly logical to me.DNA wrote:So Tullece, Onio, King Vegeta = bad; Goten: GT = good. Right.goku the krump dancer wrote:Seriously though they're really killing SSJ3, who's next Tulles, Onio? King Vegeta? I bet they're going to give the form to every other Saiyan before it gets to Vegetto or hell even GT Goten.
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Goten is a pair with Trunks. Having SS3 Trunks, but no SS3 Goten feels weird to me. At least Goten & Trunks have the potential to go SS3 if they had done some serious training.DNA wrote:So Tullece, Onio, King Vegeta = bad; Goten: GT = good. Right.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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No they don't, they can't even go Super Saiyan 2. For me, Goten: GT would be as bad as anyone else, even if he's a supposed pairing. Remember, at least Trunks: GT DID something, all Goten did in GT was date and get his ass handed to him. Not that I'm defending Trunks: GT Super Saiyan 3 as a good choice.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Goten is a pair with Trunks. Having SS3 Trunks, but no SS3 Goten feels weird to me. At least Goten & Trunks have the potential to go SS3 if they had done some serious training.DNA wrote:So Tullece, Onio, King Vegeta = bad; Goten: GT = good. Right.
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If Goten & Trunks were to start hard training (like they did in DBO), then they would be stronger than their fathers. They were already very strong as kids (stronger than #18, and not far from Gohan), and they probably trained after the 28th TB, since Goku told them to train & they agreed (it was filler, but we are talking about GT now).
Characters like Tullece, King Vegeta, and Bardock are trash compared to Goten & Trunks, however. They don't deserve the form.
Characters like Tullece, King Vegeta, and Bardock are trash compared to Goten & Trunks, however. They don't deserve the form.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Oh we're playing the what if game? Well, since Bardock survived, did go Super Saiyan and has shown to be constantly improving himself, with time I can see him going Super Saiyan 3. Tullece if he survived and kept eating the fruit would be far stronger than many characters, I can easily see him reaching Super Saiyan 3 eventually.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:If Goten & Trunks were to start hard training (like they did in DBO), then they would be stronger than their fathers. They were already very strong as kids (stronger than #18, and not far from Gohan), and they probably trained after the 28th TB, since Goku told them to train & they agreed (it was filler, but we are talking about GT now).
Characters like Tullece, King Vegeta, and Bardock are trash compared to Goten & Trunks, however. They don't deserve the form.
When you play the what if game you can justify any characters form.
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Well, of course we are playing the what-if game, since these forms are what-if forms. DBH doesn't tell us that Broli, Vegeta, Future Trunks, Trunks, Gogeta, and Future Gohan have turned Super Saiyan 3, or that Baby possessed Janenba. It shows us what would they look like if those characters had turned Super Saiyan 3.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Is it wrong to think what if SSJ2s are cooler than what if SSJ3s?
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Well... yes, but thats only because for some dumb reason GT Trunks got the form. Like others have said they go hand n hand, so it makes some sort of sense that he gets the form for completeness sake.DNA wrote:So Tullece, Onio, King Vegeta = bad; Goten: GT = good. Right.goku the krump dancer wrote:Seriously though they're really killing SSJ3, who's next Tulles, Onio? King Vegeta? I bet they're going to give the form to every other Saiyan before it gets to Vegetto or hell even GT Goten.
Honestly I'd prefer GT Gotenks to be a thing rather than give the two fusses a transformation they not only don't need but don't deserve imo. Besides its like throughout the series its implied that separately Goten and Trunks are useless until they fuse anyway.
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I know it (I have the Shin Budokai 2), but I thought I had lost the existence of some cardsDBZGTKOSDH wrote: No, we got Future Trunks as a Super Saiyan 2 in Budokai 2, 3, and Infinite World, while we had Future Gohan as a Super Saiyan 2 & Ultimate in Shin Budokai 2.
Thanks for the info
