Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

[kinisking]

The ratings won't make justice to this last episode.

I'd be very disappointed, if that turns out to be the case.
I'm expecting at least on par with One Piece and maybe even beyond!
I predict a rating of 7.8.

Call me crazy, but I have a feeling it will crack the 8.0 barrier.

Dare to dream.

Guys it won't even crack 7. Just look at the ratings recently. Has any of the super important episodes gotten a 7 since episode 52?

[GeeRod]

I think this week episode will reach 6.5 at least. But surpassing One Piece is tough...

[ArchedThunder]

Guys it won't even crack 7. Just look at the ratings recently. Has any of the super important episodes gotten a 7 since episode 52?

57 got a 6.8. I'm sure the NEP will give it a huge boost. If episode 39 could get a 7.1 I don't see there being any reason why 66 can't crack 7.0, especially with the Vegetto hype and the awesome animation that was on display in the NEP.

[kinisking]

Guys it won't even crack 7. Just look at the ratings recently. Has any of the super important episodes gotten a 7 since episode 52?

57 got a 6.8. I'm sure the NEP will give it a huge boost. If episode 39 could get a 7.1 I don't see there being any reason why 66 can't crack 7.0, especially with the Vegetto hype and the awesome animation that was on display in the NEP.

Hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised but I'm not putting my hopes up.

[HeroR]

Guys it won't even crack 7. Just look at the ratings recently. Has any of the super important episodes gotten a 7 since episode 52?

57 got a 6.8. I'm sure the NEP will give it a huge boost. If episode 39 could get a 7.1 I don't see there being any reason why 66 can't crack 7.0, especially with the Vegetto hype and the awesome animation that was on display in the NEP.

Very few people tunes in to see an episode because the animation looks good.

[ArchedThunder]

Very few people tunes in to see an episode because the animation looks good.

I'm pretty sure animation quality is one of the big reasons that older fans will tune into an episode live instead of watching it recorded or online.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

People tune in for entertainment and exciting animation helps in increasing entertainment. Anime is anime because of animation.

[HeroR]

People tune in for entertainment and exciting animation helps in increasing entertainment. Anime is anime because of animation.

One of the highest rated One Piece episode was a filler episode with some crappy animation. Why people tune in to certain episodes over others is really random.

[DBZ_Lee]

I'd be surprised if we get a 6.0, One Piece will beat it, Super does well to stay pace with it ratings wise.
I am a One Piece fan, but this Zou Arc hasn't been great so far.
Super has been the better show recently due to where the 2 Arcs currently are, Zou has just started.
It would be nice if Super could top it for once, it has deserved it for the past few weeks alone.

[Bigivel]

People tune in for entertainment and exciting animation helps in increasing entertainment. Anime is anime because of animation.

hmm... nop. The most important thing in an anime is its base, the story. Anime is just anime because it is a storytelling media. And a cinematographic media. Animation comes last in the set of things anime is. The only reason it is called animation/anime is not because that is the main thing, but because that is the differentiating factor from other concurrent media, like Live-Action.

In the same way people go for an episode mainly because its content interest them.

[Bigivel]

People tune in for entertainment and exciting animation helps in increasing entertainment. Anime is anime because of animation.

One of the highest rated One Piece episode was a filler episode with some crappy animation. Why people tune in to certain episodes over others is really random.

Just because it was a filler and had crappy animation, it doesn't make the tune percentage random. What it makes is that there is other factors other than canonicity and animation into play for the decision.

By oversimplifying the reasons why people tune in, you get a wrong bigger picture and loose your perspective, ending in conclusions like "it is all random". And in the end it really isn't.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

People tune in for entertainment and exciting animation helps in increasing entertainment. Anime is anime because of animation.

hmm... nop. The most important thing in an anime is its base, the story. Anime is just anime because it is a storytelling media. And a cinematographic media. Animation comes last in the set of things anime is. The only reason it is called animation/anime is not because that is the main thing, but because that is the differentiating factor from other concurrent media, like Live-Action.

In the same way people go for an episode mainly because its content interest them.

I disagree.The story/script/plot is written on paper. It has no life of its own. It's the animators, director, character designer that brings the story to life. I agree anime is a way of storytelling and it's through the animation the story is told.

[Bigivel]

People tune in for entertainment and exciting animation helps in increasing entertainment. Anime is anime because of animation.

hmm... nop. The most important thing in an anime is its base, the story. Anime is just anime because it is a storytelling media. And a cinematographic media. Animation comes last in the set of things anime is. The only reason it is called animation/anime is not because that is the main thing, but because that is the differentiating factor from other concurrent media, like Live-Action.

In the same way people go for an episode mainly because its content interest them.

I disagree.The story/script/plot is written on paper. It has no life of its own. It's the animators, director, character designer that brings the story to life. I agree anime is a way of storytelling and it's through the animation the story is told.

By life you're talking of what? Because stories have a lot of life, in fact the reason they are so popular and so great is because they bring to life the imagination of its author. Or are you talking of motion? That is not the center aspect of an anime though. If that was the case you could see simple motion sketch and be happy with it. By the mouth of one of the big animators of Golden Age Disney, Richard Williams, such a thing can only keep people attention for around 5 minutes. Though a story can keep your attention for hours without stop. And that is why animation predominantly went to the storytelling media.

Also note that by Director and Character Designer, you're not talking of animation, but of cinematography. You can have, no, you have those roles in other things other than Anime. In fact those roles were created way before animation ever existed.

Animation is just the differential. Yep, it might be the reason you watch anime instead of anything else. But it still just a little thing compared with all it provides. Just like the skin color is the differential of black people and white people, but the base, what make them people and so much more, is exactly the same. So, that means that black skin isn't what a black person is. Just like animation/motion drawings isn't what Animation/anime is.

[HeroR]

People tune in for entertainment and exciting animation helps in increasing entertainment. Anime is anime because of animation.

One of the highest rated One Piece episode was a filler episode with some crappy animation. Why people tune in to certain episodes over others is really random.

Just because it was a filler and had crappy animation, it doesn't make the tune percentage random. What it makes is that there is other factors other than canonicity and animation into play for the decision.

By oversimplifying the reasons why people tune in, you get a wrong bigger picture and loose your perspective, ending in conclusions like "it is all random". And in the end it really isn't.

Maybe random wasn't the right word, but my point is that animation being good or bad doesn't seem to really effect ratings. If it did, Sailor Moon Crystal would have never gotten another season.

[FortuneSSJ]

This is impossible. With its current time slot db will never surpass op. The reason is that once people watch db They will stay for op.
Why skip an op episode?
You are awake, you are drinking your milk and eat your breakfast and the TV is on. Why skip op ? Unless of course you hate it.

Not really. In the same time slot Dragon Ball Kai already beat One Piece:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... 30-april-5
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... april-6-12

Sure, this was years ago and things are different now. Not even Sazae-san reach that numbers anymore. But Super beat One Piece it's not an impossible feat. They already tied.

I don't agree with the logic "One Piece airs after Dragon Ball, so people that watch DB will watch OP too." If some people just aren't interested in OP, they won't bother with it and they will do other thing.

[Bullza]

So the first couple episodes of Kai beat One Piece but the first couple episodes of Super couldn't?

[FortuneSSJ]

So the first couple episodes of Kai beat One Piece but the first couple episodes of Super couldn't?

That is from 2009. Things are different now. Much less people watch TV, or just decide to watch it later through recordings or online. All those series barely reach those numbers anymore. Sazae-san and Chibi Maruko-chan for example, are the only ones that still break the 10% barrier and is not always.

It's more fair comparing Super with Kai Buu arc, which aired in 2014. And that never beat One Piece either. Super still has a better average of ratings.

[Mazingerdestro]

This is impossible. With its current time slot db will never surpass op. The reason is that once people watch db They will stay for op.
Why skip an op episode?
You are awake, you are drinking your milk and eat your breakfast and the TV is on. Why skip op ? Unless of course you hate it.

Not really. In the same time slot Dragon Ball Kai already beat One Piece:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... 30-april-5
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... april-6-12

Sure, this was years ago and things are different now. Not even Sazae-san reach that numbers anymore. But Super beat One Piece it's not an impossible feat. They already tied.

I don't agree with the logic "One Piece airs after Dragon Ball, so people that watch DB will watch OP too." If some people just aren't interested in OP, they won't bother with it and they will do other thing.

Impressive. However, with the availability of the streaming sites and in general the difference in demographic (op and db have different age fanbases even if they are both targeted towards children. Additionally the adult viewers won't wake up at 9 in the morning to watch db. They will watch it later.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

By life you're talking of what? Because stories have a lot of life, in fact the reason they are so popular and so great is because they bring to life the imagination of its author. Or are you talking of motion? That is not the center aspect of an anime though. If that was the case you could see simple motion sketch and be happy with it. By the mouth of one of the big animators of Golden Age Disney, Richard Williams, such a thing can only keep people attention for around 5 minutes. Though a story can keep your attention for hours without stop. And that is why animation predominantly went to the storytelling media.

Also note that by Director and Character Designer, you're not talking of animation, but of cinematography. You can have, no, you have those roles in other things other than Anime. In fact those roles were created way before animation ever existed.

Animation is just the differential. Yep, it might be the reason you watch anime instead of anything else. But it still just a little thing compared with all it provides. Just like the skin color is the differential of black people and white people, but the base, what make them people and so much more, is exactly the same. So, that means that black skin isn't what a black person is. Just like animation/motion drawings isn't what Animation/anime is.

There is a difference between story and storytelling. A good story is a good story but in an anime how is that story told in an interesting way? Visually. That's my main point. The base is the plot, but if the plot is copy paste of the comic panel-by-panel with no creative input by the staff no matter how good a story is it is not good from a storytelling point of view.

Take One Punch Man for example, the plot is barely a plot but the animators showered all their love on it and what we got was a fantastic show with fantastic storytelling despite an average script. It's the creativity, love, blood, sweat and tears of these animators that make an anime interesting. The power of animation in an anime cannot be denied.

A director of an anime is very crucial. He is responsible for bringing the necessary staff on-board.A good director knows when and how to use animation to convey emotion, what the characters are feeling by assigning pivotal scenes to the best animators who make that scene impactful with their creativity and talent. A bad director can ruin a crucial scene which might be great in the comic after-all.

Fukkatsu no F is a shining example of how bad direction can make a bad plot even worse. If a good director was directing F despite the bad plot he could've made it good through good and interesting storytelling.

A good story's impact can be far more felt if it is told best. In order to tell it best, the animators are needed cause they can express it well visually through their drawings which is why animation is so crucial in an anime.

[Lujin_16]

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