"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[superfan2024]

Looks like episode 112 may be moved to October 29th instead of October 22nd because of the upcoming Japanese general election. Another week off for Super once again.

The more breaks, the better. By the time the next main arc comes, we should be having constant good art/animation every episode.

[Chuquita]

October's busy for me anyway, so another break week is fine. There's no big mystery to solve like last arc's "Who is Gokû Black?" anyway, so no problems.

[Kinokima]

Looks like episode 112 may be moved to October 29th instead of October 22nd because of the upcoming Japanese general election. Another week off for Super once again.

That's the Vegeta episode....can't say I am not disappointed

[Zephyr]

The more breaks, the better. By the time the next main arc comes, we should be having constant good art/animation every episode.

Sentiment like this never ceases to amuse me. We're already over 100 episodes in, and people are still holding out hope for some eventual quality consistency that, even if it does come, will be arriving way too late to meet reasonable expectations.

[superfan2024]

The more breaks, the better. By the time the next main arc comes, we should be having constant good art/animation every episode.

Sentiment like this never ceases to amuse me. We're already over 100 episodes in, and people are still holding out hope for some eventual quality consistency that, even if it does come, will be arriving way too late to meet reasonable expectations.

And? This arc is already very consistent. It's never too late to see an even better change. Comments like these are the ones that amuse me. Try to be positive for once...

[sintzu]

The more breaks, the better. By the time the next main arc comes, we should be having constant good art/animation every episode.

I don't think a few breaks here and there will make a huge difference in the long run but the episode that gets more time to be worked on is surely to end up being at least a bit better than it would've had it released earlier.

[Kinokima]

I think the animation of Super has improved somewhat. Certainly some earlier episodes especially were unacceptable. But I actually think Super seems to be pretty consistent with long running series that don't take breaks (and when I say a break I don't mean an episode off here and there but an actual seasonal break). Most really long running shows are not known for the best animation but can have an important episode or scene nicely animated even if the series animation as a whole is average at best.

Although I do wonder why we are talking about the TV series in the manga thread.

[Grimlock]

Alright, let's get back on topic.

Since in the manga we had Gods of Destruction fighting Beerus, something we didn't see in the anime, that kinda gets me excited for the next issue, as I want to see what more is different from Toei's version. Hopefully we get something interesting again.

[The gr]

Alright, let's get back on topic.

Since in the manga we had Gods of Destruction fighting Beerus, something we didn't see in the anime, that kinda gets me excited for the next issue, as I want to see what more is different from Toei's version. Hopefully we get something interesting again.

I think next month is gonna have goku vs toppo or at least setting it up,something we already saw in the anime ,I'm really looking foward to see the recruitment phase,i wonder if jiren and dyspo will have more screentime in the recruitment along with every universe

[Zephyr]

The more breaks, the better. By the time the next main arc comes, we should be having constant good art/animation every episode.

Sentiment like this never ceases to amuse me. We're already over 100 episodes in, and people are still holding out hope for some eventual quality consistency that, even if it does come, will be arriving way too late to meet reasonable expectations.

And? This arc is already very consistent. It's never too late to see an even better change. Comments like these are the ones that amuse me. Try to be positive for once...

Getting better and better is good, don't get me wrong. It's just that these improvements don't undo or make up for the rocky beginning and middle. I'd honestly much rather see Super wrapped up, and allow the sequel series (because they're aren't going to stop milking this any time soon) enough time for proper pre-production. Let it have a better beginning than Super did, so it can be a more consistent work.

[Noah]

So I guess we won't see any of the Zen Exhibition Matches like in the anime right? Can we expect to Toyotaro just jump to the characters training for the ToP? I wouldn't mind that, actually.

[Kinokima]

So I guess we won't see any of the Zen Exhibition Matches like in the anime right? Can we expect to Toyotaro just jump to the characters training for the ToP? I wouldn't mind that, actually.

I need Bulla to be born in the manga

[LightBing]

I think Bulla's birth will be exactly like in the anime.
Next chapter should be the fight between the Gods and Goku vs Toppo, ending with the reveal of the rules of ToP and Jiren's existence.

[BlueVegerot]

I'm really curious to see how Toppo stacks up to Goku in the manga. Will he be a match for SSB or Completed SSB?

[Hellspawn28]

I think we will see U9 and U4 working together to stop Freeza and Goku like we did in the anime, but done differently.

[Analytical Delusion]

Some questions/thoughts:

1) What are you guys expecting this next chapter? Conclusion of the fight presumably. What else?

2) The recruitment arc felt kind of filler-y* in the anime, or at least more so than the exhibition match. At the very least though, I'd like to think we'd get to see Goku recruiting 17 and Freeza (and hopefully some flashback scenes to the fight between Goku/Freeza which Toyotaro skipped, or of Freeza's mental training in hell). Do you guys think we'll see Goku recruiting those two, more people, or nobody at all?

3) Toei updating the bios for fighters on the site in the last couple of days has been pretty confusing. They added a line about Jiren being on God of Destruction level. In the anime, Whis also followed up on his foreshadowing by noting that Jiren is at or above that level. So I wonder, was Jiren originally supposed to be at the exhibition match, as the GoD-in-training? Or is it that case that, in Universe 11, there is *both* somebody training to become the next GoD (Toppo), and somebody as strong or stronger than the typical GoD (Jiren)?

4) It feels like Goku using the KKx20 was the last hurrah of the technique. Do you think Toyotaro will be able to make it through the arc without using it? It still seems to me that Toei wrote themselves into a corner by using it in the Universe 6 Hit fight, and couldn't really shelve it in the following arcs. The new transformation (or technique?) we saw from Goku today probably gives them an opportunity to retire it cleanly. I do think there's an outside chance Goku might try using kaio-ken (or the genki dama), just because we're going to need to see complete desperation, though perhaps Toyotaro and Toriyama have a more creative idea in store. It looks amazing when animated, but it really is frustrating to reconcile plot-wise that it's been used.

5) Lastly, what are you guys expecting from Hit in this arc (recruitment + ToP proper)? He isn't as overpowered in the manga as in the anime, but it does seem that he is featured prominently in a lot of promotional art (he was one of the bigger figures on the last VJump cover). Would be nice if leading up to the ToP we see he and Universe 6 preparing, and if he gets major fights in the actual tournament.

* Yes, I know there isn't a proper canon in Super, since there is no true source material. Just referring to what we can best make out of the AT outlines, which probably has a lot to do with overlap between the manga/anime.

[ConfusedPhantom]

Part of me thinks they'll do something different, though I think the Genki Dama will still be there. Maybe the whole reveal of the technique would be more gradual with Goku trying to move without thinking throughout the arc, and then when it actually happens, it'll be more organic. The recruitment arc would just be 17 and Freeza (though I think Toyotaro would make Beerus be the one to suggest Freeza and not Goku). After that it'll probably be 4 chapters till the Jiren fight. One chapter with Kale and Caulifla. One chapter with Gohan. One chapter with Muten Roshi and Frost. One chapter with Goku and Hit VS the Pride Troopers.

[emperior]

Part of me thinks they'll do something different, though I think the Genki Dama will still be there. Maybe the whole reveal of the technique would be more gradual with Goku trying to move without thinking throughout the arc, and then when it actually happens, it'll be more organic. The recruitment arc would just be 17 and Freeza (though I think Toyotaro would make Beerus be the one to suggest Freeza and not Goku). After that it'll probably be 4 chapters till the Jiren fight. One chapter with Kale and Caulifla. One chapter with Gohan. One chapter with Muten Roshi and Frost. One chapter with Goku and Hit VS the Pride Troopers.

You don't just try to move without thinking though. I believe it will be more gradual because Goku will learn by watching the Hakaishins fight.

[OLKv3]

Part of me thinks they'll do something different, though I think the Genki Dama will still be there. Maybe the whole reveal of the technique would be more gradual with Goku trying to move without thinking throughout the arc, and then when it actually happens, it'll be more organic. The recruitment arc would just be 17 and Freeza (though I think Toyotaro would make Beerus be the one to suggest Freeza and not Goku). After that it'll probably be 4 chapters till the Jiren fight. One chapter with Kale and Caulifla. One chapter with Gohan. One chapter with Muten Roshi and Frost. One chapter with Goku and Hit VS the Pride Troopers.

You don't just try to move without thinking though. I believe it will be more gradual because Goku will learn by watching the Hakaishins fight.

Both chapters of the arc have been building up the move without thinking tech, while the anime has ignored it since RoF. So it has to be done differently, since we see Goku seeing it in action. I feel like that would've worked good in the anime, just like I feel like Goku seeing Beerus kill Zamasu would've worked good in the manga

[TheMikado]

I doubt half of what was in the anime will be there. We’ve already seen Beerus use the move without thinking technique in the manga and it doesn’t grant him a new form or aura, it’s a legitimate mastery of the technique and I think the manga will follow suit with it being less special and ordinary and people will complain that the manga is boring.