The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:33 pm

Zephyr wrote:SSj3 Bardock (Episode of Bardock) vs base Broly (movie 8)
SSj3 always fails so Broli wins by default.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:24 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Episode of Bardock SSj Bardock Vs. Movie 8 Broli
Broly stomps SSJ3 Bardock

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:39 pm

Buucolo VS Mystic Gohan (with the mind of Captain Ginyu as a result of change body)-- No candy beam, absorbing, or blowing up of planets

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:07 pm

Angelus wrote:Buucolo VS Mystic Gohan (with the mind of Captain Ginyu as a result of change body)-- No candy beam, absorbing, or blowing up of planets
Buccolo stomps. Ginyu won't have any idea how to utilize Gohan's power.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:09 pm

Wow! That's actually two lines for once! :lol: :lol:

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:33 pm

Now let's this is a weird one. Since we never knew Uubs potential thanks to that dbgt. Now my question is

Uub after years with training with Eoz Goku vs Vegeta ssjgssj from RoF?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Methuselah » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:38 am

Vegeta, since I don't think Uub by that time would've surpassed his previous Kid Buu incarnation to any relevant degree.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:49 am

Here's some:

SSJ Goku (after SSJG wore off but is healed up; BoG) VS SSJ3 Vegito (Buu Saga, just use the x400 base formula; SSJ3 has no strain)

Manga Colonel Silver VS 25th WMAT Videl

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:18 am

Buu Saga Goku (SSJ1-3 available) VS a Potara of Freeza and Cooler (Cooler's Super Form available).
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Diotor » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:21 am

Manga Colonel Silver VS 25th WMAT Videl
Pretty close, but Colonel Silver could take more than a single blow for Goku to defeat, so I'd give this to him 60/40.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:17 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Buu Saga Goku (SSJ1-3 available) VS a Potara of Freeza and Cooler (Cooler's Super Form available).
The fusion wins.. potara is just too extreme

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:03 pm

Angelus wrote:SSJ Goku (after SSJG wore off but is healed up; BoG) VS SSJ3 Vegito (Buu Saga, just use the x400 base formula; SSJ3 has no strain)

Manga Colonel Silver VS 25th WMAT Videl
- Vegetto one shots
- Videl wins but barely
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Buu Saga Goku (SSJ1-3 available) VS a Potara of Freeza and Cooler (Cooler's Super Form available).
Potara Freeza/Cooler takes this and with ease

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:38 pm

Base Vegetto (Buu saga) vs. Ultimate Gohan

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:09 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Base Vegetto (Buu saga) vs. Ultimate Gohan
Vegetto wins. Rou Kaioshin believed that base "Gokhan" would have been strong enough to beat Gotenks Boo without Super Saiyan because of the power of the Potara (implying that this wouldn't be the because of Ultimate), and then he was even more excited when Goku & Vegeta merged, who have rivaling strength in the same form, unlike Goku & Gohan. Vegetto had to transform into a Super Saiyan in order to make Gohan Boo look ridiculous, meaning that base Vegetto is at most slightly stronger than Gohan Boo.

The anime also supports that base Vegetto is stronger than Gohan Boo, but not strong enough to make him look ridiculous, and since nothing contradicts it, I go by that.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:12 pm

Personally, I have Base Vegetto = SS3 Gogeta ~< Ultimate Gohan.

I don't have Vegetto > Gokhan [potara], I believe Old Kaioshin's 'that's whats strongest' or something like that statement just meant currently existing.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:25 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Base Vegetto (Buu saga) vs. Ultimate Gohan
Vegetto wrecks Ultimate Gohan

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:40 pm

Angelus wrote:Saibaman VS Saiyan Saga Kami (after he was done training the human Z fighters)-- No self destruct
Majin Spopovich and Yamu VS 25th WMAT Idasa + Ikose Potara Fusion
Raditz VS Saiyan Saga Mr. Popo (after he was done training the human Z fighters) and Karin
Majin Spopovich VS 25th WMAT Videl wearing Nappa's full armor tailored to her size, Great Saiyaman Helmet, and equipped with Goku's powerpole and an ice pick
— I think the power level of 220 for Kami is from the Saiyan arc, since it... well, was from an article's list for the Saiyan arc. I figure he was hands-off and has weakened since fighting in the 23rd World Tournament, while Popo's 1000+ level was a result of being the one actually directly training the Earthlings. So suffice to say... 220 versus 1,200 isn't going to end well for the former.
— I don't think Spopovich and Yamu had power levels any more than a few dozen, personally. Videl was smacking Spopovich around, and he only made his comeback because none of the damage she inflicted "stuck." Now, Potara Fusion is extremely potent, but I have to wonder if "Idose" would be unable to permanently damage Spopovich either. Because of that I'll say this fight's in the Fusion's favor but not guaranteed.
— Popo might have this just because he's so much more skilled. I'll say the odds are only slightly in Raditz' favor.
— Uh, if she couldn't damage him enough with physical blows, I doubt she's going to damage him enough with this stuff either.
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Ussj Trunks vs Lssj Broly
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— Broli wins. Advantage in both power level and sheer muscle size.
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Piccolo vs. Vegeta (Trunks saga)
I'm gonna say Piccolo. Given how strong he ended up by the time the Androids appeared, I figure he gains power pretty crazy fast now after merging with Nail. So if he's been training at all during the 2 years between Namek and Trunks, I'd be surprised if he wasn't already at like 5 million or so and able to whoop Vegeta's butt.
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fadeddreams5 wrote:5th form Cooler vs. Mecha Freeza
SSJ Trunks w/ sword vs. SSJ Goku w/ power pole (Trunks saga; fight to the death)
Garlic jr. (Dead Zone movie; transformed with no immortality or usage of Dead Zone) vs. Raditz
Dr. Wheelo vs. Oozaru Vegeta
Tullece w/ fruit vs. Zarbon (transformed)
1000 Meta-Coolers vs. Imperfect Cell (after absorbing humans)
Lord Slug (young) vs 50% Final Form Freeza
Staff Officer Black (in Battle Jacket) vs. Pilaf and gang (in Pilaf Machine)
— I think they're about the same in power, but I'm going to say the winner is Coola. One, because I like him better, and two, because I think his "Super form" is probably more effective and natural for him to use than Freeza's mutilated cyborg body.
— Giving it to Goku. He's got an edge in power, and he's almost certainly better with nyoi-bo than Trunks is with a sword.
— I'm saying Raditz due to a power advantage. Goku and Piccolo required extremely amplified attacks and suicidal strategies to defeat him, while they overcame Garlic Jr. with normal tag-teaming, and were only foiled by his immortality.
— If this is Oozaru Vegeta at full strength, without his power level reduced by injury or creating a power ball... then he smashes Dr. Uiro apart with ease.
— Goku in Movie 3 was at roughly 30,000, maybe more. With the Kaio-Ken x10, he'd be over 300,000... but after eating his first Fruit of Might, Tullece was strong enough to beat down that same Goku with ease. The dude was probably at least as strong as 1st-form Freeza up at 500k-ish. Zarbon gets squished like a bug.
— The MetaL Coolas aren't too far behind Cell in strength. Also, not only do they have a HUGE advantage in numbers, which can be very effective, but each time Cell destroys one of them, they'll come back even stronger (because you neglected to take that ability away from them). Cell is eventually overwhelmed and killed.
— I think Slug's power ranged between 1st- and 3rd-form Freeza. True-form Freeza at 50% is far too strong for him.
— Yeah... giving this one to Black.
Angelus wrote:Buucolo VS Mystic Gohan (with the mind of Captain Ginyu as a result of change body)-- No candy beam, absorbing, or blowing up of planets
Ginyu suffers from the same difficulty in using his host's power as when he switched bodies with Goku on Namek. Piccolo-Boo kicks his butt.
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Buu Saga Goku (SSJ1-3 available) VS a Potara of Freeza and Cooler (Cooler's Super Form available).
Well, simplifying it and assuming things work proportinately... If Freeza and Coola at 100% are still somewhat stronger than base Goku or Vegeta, then the fused "Cooza" might end up moderately stronger than base Vegetto. Who's crazy strong to be sure, but I've never believed had to be way up there with Evil Boo's forms or anything. My gut tells me that Goku could fight evenly with "Cooza" at SS1 or SS2, and SS3 is more than enough to give him a win.
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Base Vegetto (Buu saga) vs. Ultimate Gohan
Building upon what I said above, I don't think the power differences between Boo-arc characters are so large that base Vegetto needs to be this strong. In my book, him being down around SS1 or SS2 Vegeta's power level in base is enough to do what he did to Boo at Super Saiyan. So Ultimate Gohan wins this one.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:13 pm

Glad to have you back on the versus threads, Kaboom! :D

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:24 pm

Lets try another.

So we know SP Cell is basically SSJ2 Cell. What if Cell had access to a psuedo-SSJ3? Super Duper Cell if you want. How far would he go if he went into the Buu arc and who eventually puts a end to him.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:33 pm

Well, I would put him as being significantly more powerful than Kid Buu or SSJ3 Goku, going by the power ratios he had in comparison to Goku and Gohan. But given that, Mystic Gohan or Gotenks would beat him up easy.

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