Damn! If Goku is impressed with Toppo strength. He will wet his pants when meet Jiren.
BlueVegerot wrote:I wonder if they will have Goku go into the RoSaT after the Exhibition Match. The anime implied that Goku with his Kaioken maxed out would beat Toppo but, there's no Kaioken in the manga and he Blue got bitch slapped
This bring an interesting question of what Goku will do to defeat guys that are above Blue, maybe pull out a SSJB2 out of his ass?
OLKv3 wrote:Apparently Zenos didn't like the GoD battle royal at all. Too loud, Too violent, boring!
Too violent? That's doesn't make any sense, kids loves violence!
But seriously though Zeno liked better Goku vs. Toppo then the matches between the GoDs? That's weird.
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Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
OLKv3 wrote:Apparently Zenos didn't like the GoD battle royal at all. Too loud, Too violent, boring!
He's not impressed with the Tournament of Power
Cue Goku showing how mortals fight with his match against Toppo!
Toppo beats Goku, I guess this impresses Zenos
THen Toppo tells him that he's not even the strongest of his universe. Jiren is, and Jiren is even better than Belmod!
Is that how it's gonna end?
Zenos saying they don't like Jiren and instant erasure.. coz Jiren transcends everything and Pretty sure is considered stronger than the gods..
A fight with Jiren will be more violent, loud and fast than any fights the gods have shown us..
Noah wrote:Damn! If Goku is impressed with Toppo strength. He will wet his pants when meet Jiren.
Yes, and it's not pee..
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Noah wrote:Damn! If Goku is impressed with Toppo strength. He will wet his pants when meet Jiren.
Yes, but it's not pee..
OLKv3 wrote:Apparently Zenos didn't like the GoD battle royal at all. Too loud, Too violent, boring!
He's not impressed with the Tournament of Power
Cue Goku showing how mortals fight with his match against Toppo!
Toppo beats Goku, I guess this impresses Zenos
THen Toppo tells him that he's not even the strongest of his universe. Jiren is, and Jiren is even better than Belmod!
Is that how it's gonna end?
Zenos saying they don't like Jiren and instant erasure.. coz Jiren transcends everything and Pretty sure is considered stronger than the gods..
A fight with Jiren will be more violent, loud and fast than any fights the gods have shown us..
OLKv3 wrote:Apparently Zenos didn't like the GoD battle royal at all. Too loud, Too violent, boring!
He's not impressed with the Tournament of Power
Cue Goku showing how mortals fight with his match against Toppo!
Toppo beats Goku, I guess this impresses Zenos
THen Toppo tells him that he's not even the strongest of his universe. Jiren is, and Jiren is even better than Belmod!
Wow, I didn't expect to get that tidbit about Jiren over Belmod so soon, nor did I expect Toppo to clown completed SSJB Goku either.
Toyotaro handled Toppo much better. I am not afraid to point out when Toyotaro does something better.
Toppo easily beating Goku sets up the bar high and makes Toppo look like he's actually an awesome fighter. His reveal about Jiren being even stronger than him is much more dramatic, and overall executed better than what the anime did.
Toyotaro is stepping up his game for this arc, that's quite evident. I just hope he will continue to deliver because his first two/three chapters of Future Trunks arc were also quite awesome, but then he completely failed afterwards.
Apart from episodes 86, 94, 95, 104, 107, 109 and 110 (I may be forgetting some other episode) the anime is quite average so I could see Toyotaro's take being better this arc. I still expect anime's true climax to be something mind-blowing and even better than episodes 66 and 110, so Toyotaro will really have to come up with some diverse and amazing choreographies for me to consider his product superior.
I'm very interested in the manga by the way, I just wished it was weekly because waiting a month for an entire chapter is quite boring and makes my interest drop considerably.
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SSB was never gping to be enough to beat Topp that is why I say Toppo is the 4th strongest after Jiren, Hit and Ultra Instict Goku.
Makes sense. SSB couldn't get the job done in the anime not to mention Toppo's full power in the anime is still a mystery. Now in the manga SSB got stomped by Toppo.
Guys, if you haven't noticed, then double check again. Goku is using the Mastered Super Saiyan Blue. In one of the images we see Goku putting the aura into his fist as he charges at Goku.
If MSSB is the equivalent to SSB Kaioken, that means that we haven't actually have seen that type of fight in the anime yet, because the Grand Priest stopped them before they could each battle at full power.
Oh.. wow.. did Goku just lose? or will this have a Boo type anime thing where Basil got thrown off but Zeno's didnt like that and the match continued until one dropped down?
Love the new cover page for Vol4 and those GoDs were giving those hands hard, look at those bumps.
I'm torn with the idea of Toppo defeating (Mastred) SSJB Goku.
On one hand, this raise the stakes considerably and provides an even greater amount of hype and anticipation for when Jiren arrives and truly reaffirms the scenario of Velmoud selecting Toppo to be next Hakaishin of Universe 11. But at the same time, you have to wonder what kind of gimmick (prior to attaining Ultra Instinct) Goku is going to get if he fights Toppo again at the Tournament Of Power. Because now we know that SSJB can't get the job done against a fighter like Toppo. This is where the I believe the fight between SSJB Goku and Toppo being inconclusive in the anime works to its advantage because it creates a great amount of intrigue to when/if Goku and Toppo skirmish again. I also think this would be the perfect time for Toyotaro to throw Kaioken into the mix with SSJB in battle if there is going to be a solution for Goku improving himself in battle in preparation for the Tournament Of Power.
But it's all good stuff I'm seeing so far. The Hakaishin Battle Royal being the major highlight so far.
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Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
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I think that his plan was to beat the weakened Gods.
