New Freeza Talkback

[KaiserNeko]

You are asking me this question BASED on the JP voice, if Funi was the first one to do a voice for him, I doubt people would have this big of a problem. & I added a 3rd point to that post.

I'm not asking you, based no the Japanese voice. I'm asking based on his character in the manga, his dialogue, his actions, the way he carries himself. None of them point to retarded. So why does he sound retarded?

[penguintruth]

The manga is irrelevant to the casting of an English dub. They're supposed to be adapting the Toei vision of the manga. If you want to imagine Recoome having a retard voice while reading the manga, that's fine, but that's nothing like what Toei did, and frankly, isn't even how Toriyama depicted him.

[LeprikanGT]

Your actions do not reflect on what your voice sounds like. There are plenty of voice contradictions out there. Recoome would have his same voice if he was in the Ginyu Force or sitting at home on his own planet.

Why should Funi have to go on Toei's vision, they have the rights to Dub a show, they should be allowed to make their own voice choices, as they have.

[KaiserNeko]

Your actions do not reflect on what your voice sounds like. There are plenty of voice contradictions out there. Recoome would have his same voice if he was in the Ginyu Force or sitting at home on his own planet.

So he should talk intelligently while sounding like an invalid? Furthermore, a voice for most character in animation and even in live action is used to represent the true personality of a character, unless that voice is used to contrast who that character really is. I don't see that sort of irony in Recoome's character.

[penguintruth]

Your actions do not reflect on what your voice sounds like. There are plenty of voice contradictions out there. Recoome would have his same voice if he was in the Ginyu Force or sitting at home on his own planet.

Why should Funi have to go on Toei's vision, they have the rights to Dub a show, they should be allowed to make their own voice choices, as they have.

That would be overstepping their bounds. If they just want to make it into a show of their own vision, they should just go back to rewriting the scripts heavily.

[Kendamu]

Your actions do not reflect on what your voice sounds like. There are plenty of voice contradictions out there. Recoome would have his same voice if he was in the Ginyu Force or sitting at home on his own planet.

Why should Funi have to go on Toei's vision, they have the rights to Dub a show, they should be allowed to make their own voice choices, as they have.

FUNi can choose whatever voice they want as long as it allows whoever is doing the voice to portray the character properly. Schemmel doesn't sound like Nozawa but he does a good job. Reacoom just comes off as "dumb" rather than "fun-loving but brutal."

[LeprikanGT]

I still think he sounds badass and brutal, even though be doesnt have a deep or throaty voice. But we do not even know what we will sound like, my main point was Toei's voices arent the Law of what every other Dub should sound like.

[JulieYBM]

I still think he sounds badass and brutal, even though be doesnt have a deep or throaty voice. But we do not even know what we will sound like, my main point was Toei's voices arent the Law of what every other Dub should sound like.

If you want to be faithful to the original, yeah...it sort of is a law.

[LeprikanGT]

What if someone else on the JP cast died and they voiced a character differently, would you stop watching because of that or say it was wrong b/c i wasnt the original.

Just because they got to the voices first, doesnt make that the only right thing to do.

[B]

I still think he sounds badass and brutal, even though be doesnt have a deep or throaty voice. But we do not even know what we will sound like, my main point was Toei's voices arent the Law of what every other Dub should sound like.

It's called translation and adaptation. It's not FUNimation's job to reinterpret characters. Reacoom does not come off as retarded in the manga, the original anime didn't see it that way either. How are you not getting this?

[LeprikanGT]

Funi has a SCRIPT to go off of, no where in this script does it say 'You have to voice match as best as you can'. They have the freedom to do those types of things else Toei wouldn't let them do it to begin with.

[ohaimynameiserik]

Ah, Kendamu, you're the only one on the forum who retains their maturity.

As for the new Freeza voice, it's not what I wanted, but definitely what I expected. I knew it was still going to retain some of what the old voice was, but it definitely sounds better. At least it's bearable. I couldn't watch anything Freeza related in the dub before. Besides, this voice can only get better.

[penguintruth]

What if someone else on the JP cast died and they voiced a character differently, would you stop watching because of that or say it was wrong b/c i wasnt the original.

Just because they got to the voices first, doesnt make that the only right thing to do.

A lot of us have had problems with Japanese replacements. Just look at Mike's dislike of the newer Muten Roshi.

I'm not a big fan of some of the new Ginyu Tokusentai voices in Japanese.

[linkdude20002001]

What if someone else on the JP cast died and they voiced a character differently, would you stop watching because of that or say it was wrong b/c i wasnt the original.

Just because they got to the voices first, doesnt make that the only right thing to do.

Well, if Toei decided to have ReaCoom sound retarded, then I would probably skip that part of Kai. It's NOT how he should sound.

[LeprikanGT]

So you like the voices you orinigally heard and are dissatisfied with new voices.

Whats so wrong with a dub fan liking the voices they first heard if thats what got them into DB, of course we would be disspleased as well to hear them change.

Are you saying thats not the way he SHOULD sound because thats not how he sounds in the Sub or because its not how he acted in the manga? Because it was just said above they aren't looking at the manga.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Thinking back on it, FUNimation never said they were trying to replicate Nakao-san's voice. That was something that fans claimed. FUNimation just said that it was creepy. I've listened to the sample provided via the YouTube clip several more times and it's growing on me a tiny little bit. We really will have to wait until the next few episodes for a full opinion.

[linkdude20002001]

So you like the voices you orinigally heard and are dissatisfied with new voices.

Whats so wrong with a dub fan liking the voices they first heard if thats what got them into DB, of course we would be disspleased as well to hear them change.

Are you saying thats not the way he SHOULD sound because thats not how he sounds in the Sub or because its not how he acted in the manga? Because it was just said above they aren't looking at the manga.

No... I first heard FUNi's retarded ReaCoom, and it sounds awful. I don't even care if Toei made him that way ORIGINALLY. It would still be wrong.

[JulieYBM]

Funi has a SCRIPT to go off of, no where in this script does it say 'You have to voice match as best as you can'. They have the freedom to do those types of things else Toei wouldn't let them do it to begin with.

By your logic, the 'retard' Reacoom is based only on the original scripts. Those original scripts were written with the intention of making the show cool and hip for American kids, in short 'changing' the show and the characters as they exist, therefore Reacoom is not Reacoom, but a completely different guy.

[Kaboom]

This thread is not about Reacoom and it's not about Batman and it's DEFINITELY not about the same stupid "well it should sound like blah blah blah because I like it that way and I don't care" bull-crap that has sent a dozen other similar threads downhill into Lockville lately.

Now come on, let's try to keep this about Freeza's new voice, okay? This is a hard enough topic to deal with as it is.

[B]

What if someone else on the JP cast died and they voiced a character differently, would you stop watching because of that or say it was wrong b/c i wasnt the original.

Just because they got to the voices first, doesnt make that the only right thing to do.

Yeah, I probably would, if the character was that important. Nozawa is a fossil; she ain't got long. She's gonna die. Everyone is gonna die someday. If the new actress(because we know there will be one) can't bring what she brings, than she's not fit for the part and I wouldn't watch it. It's sad to see anyone go, but if actors who played minor to bit characters passed, I'll be honest, I'd get over it a lot quicker than one of the core cast members leaving.

Funi has a SCRIPT to go off of, no where in this script does it say 'You have to voice match as best as you can'. They have the freedom to do those types of things else Toei wouldn't let them do it to begin with.

You can kick a child in the face; doesn't mean you should. When you pull a radical change such as Reacoom speaking like he's mentally challenged, you've veered off in a far enough to direction to call it "different." That's not what they're supposed to do.