Dragon Ball Z Kai - Part Eight

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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai - Part Eight

Post by Puto » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:35 am

How far did things go for people to be calling the original DBZ music "torture"? :/
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:52 am

It's true Kai's replacement music is the original score of Dragon Ball Z, but to be fair, it was only a very small amount of tracks.

You basically hear the same tracks over and over again the entire series.

This is a great example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgIaySnUTlg (after the first BGM that plays it goes back to the Cell repetitive BGMs).
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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai - Part Eight

Post by Puto » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:18 am

The so-called repetitiveness of the Kikuchi OST in Kai is seriously overblown. It's nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be.

And people seem to conveniently forget that the Yamamoto soundtrack was also rather repetitive. It was a common complaint before the scandal broke out and Yamamoto's music suddenly gained instant godly status.
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Post by ultimateemail5000 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:33 am

My question is why would anyone think that the original Kai score is on a new release, after Funimation solved the prooblem with bgm.

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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai - Part Eight

Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:55 am

I've been watching episode 89-91 and the BGMs keep repeating a lot in the same episodes and I just don't feel any emotion, passion or cinematic feeling like Yamamoto's music did.

If only Kikuchi's music in Kai wasn't so bloody limited then maybe Kai would've been great with Kikuchi's score, i.e, if there was more variety of BGMs, which isn't the case.

I'm literally emotionless watching the episodes, but yet following the episodes left so I'll finish Kai and never pick it up again, unless it's with Yamamoto's score. Thankfully I've experienced Kai's Saiyan-Frieza arcs with Yamamoto's soundtrack, so at least there it was awesome.

Some people are still able to enjoy Kai with the replacement soundtrack, so for those people, 'njoy. I guess. *sigh*
ultimateemail5000 wrote:My question is why would anyone think that the original Kai score is on a new release, after Funimation solved the prooblem with bgm.
DBZ Kai Season One 2011 = Yamamoto
DBZ Kai Season One 2012 = Kikuchi

Buying DBZ Kai Part 8 BD for €14 ($18) certainly didn't feel worth it.

Edit: I'm actually with a headache from the music, I ain't kidding. :|
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Post by Pokewhiz7 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:41 pm

I watched a couple of episodes on Nicktoons.com once. They were at the end of the series, including episode 97. I found the placement perfectly fine. I assume the only problematic area is the Saiyan and Frieza arcs, but then again, it is giving someone a headache, so...

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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai - Part Eight

Post by Lord Eeyore Haw-Haw » Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:20 pm

I dunno... I'm treading into deep waters, but I felt that the music got pretty repetitive in Z too... After all, "Kyoufu no Ginyuu Tokusentai" could pretty much be found playing nearly once every episode. It drove me absolutely nuts, to hear this over and over and over and over. Oh, some form of action's starting, looks like we're about to hear the "DUUUUUUN... DUN-DUN-DUUUUUUUUN... DUN-DUN-DUN-DUUUUUUN" horns again. Wait for it, wait for it... "DUUUUUUN.. DUN-DUN-DUUUUUUN. DUN-DUN-DUN-DUUUUUUUUN..." Ah, there we go... And if it's not that particular version, it's a variant on it.

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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai - Part Eight

Post by dbret12 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:07 pm

Kikuchi's music was OK in Z, just not in Kai. His music makes Kai unwatchable, but I'm not saying he's a terrible composer. I just like his music in Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z better.

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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai - Part Eight

Post by CaBrPi » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:34 pm

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of the Kikuchi placement in Kai, but I honestly don't even notice it when I'm actually watching the show. Hell, some of the most overplayed themes have become favorites of mine (ie, the one that plays during the Kaioken x20 scene, and the one that plays when Trunks slices Freeza up).

It doesn't really bother me at all, because I don't need new, previously unheard music playing every few minutes to have emotional reactions to what's going on.

Besides, no one complains about the soundtracks to Terminator or Aliens, which were repetitive as all get-out. I certainly don't. I think it's a bit ridiculous to say that the music makes Kai that bad or that hard to watch.

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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai - Part Eight

Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:22 pm

Anywho, is Brina Palencia the female voice on the Dragon Soul Mix of Part Eight?

Vic's in there too awesome!
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Post by kei17 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:03 am

Pokewhiz7 wrote:I watched a couple of episodes on Nicktoons.com once. They were at the end of the series, including episode 97. I found the placement perfectly fine.
Yeah, it's far better than that in the first two arcs because a lot of pieces used in Kai were originally composed during the Andoroid/Cell arc, so they match its atmosphere.

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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai - Part Eight

Post by dbboxkaifan » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:41 am

Just finished DBZ Kai Part Eight, the music placements on episodes 96-98 were actually great, however, the Japanese audio of NEP 97 sounded low quality, or as if it was coming from a tunel, when I changed to the English dub the quality was superb, though.

Great Kikuchi Kai score placements to mediocre: 97 > 96 > 98 > the rest of the Kai series

Damn it why couldn't episode 92 received the same treatment as episode 97. :|
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Post by Fionordequester » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:33 pm

I just watched Dragon Ball Z Kai Part Eight with my Dad yesterday...and is it just me, or is the uncut version inexplicably better than the Nicktoons version? Not just in the script, but in the acting as well? I remember watching Kai on Nicktoons and thinking "huh well, Clarke's pretty decent, everyone sounds more-or-less good, too bad the music stinks...whatever".

But then I'm watched it yesterday, and suddenly, Dameon Clarke isn't just decent, he is absolutely SUPERB in his acting and unbelievably expressive, the script is really good, Mr. Satan is better than I remembered, and even the music is more fitting than I remember it being. Has anyone ever had this phenomenon happen to them?
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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai - Part Eight

Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:48 am

Lord Eeyore Haw-Haw wrote:I dunno... I'm treading into deep waters, but I felt that the music got pretty repetitive in Z too... After all, "Kyoufu no Ginyuu Tokusentai" could pretty much be found playing nearly once every episode. It drove me absolutely nuts, to hear this over and over and over and over. Oh, some form of action's starting, looks like we're about to hear the "DUUUUUUN... DUN-DUN-DUUUUUUUUN... DUN-DUN-DUN-DUUUUUUN" horns again. Wait for it, wait for it... "DUUUUUUN.. DUN-DUN-DUUUUUUN. DUN-DUN-DUN-DUUUUUUUUN..." Ah, there we go... And if it's not that particular version, it's a variant on it.
This was also the case with The Tragic Battle in the Buu arc:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVBeTMCK ... ure=relmfu
Although, in all honesty I like hearing pieces of music I'm familiar with, particularly when most of my favourite BGM was given a much needed rest in the last 91 episodes of the series.

Also, Part 8 is due out on the 1st of August in Australia:
http://www.madman.com.au/catalogue/view ... llection-8

Details on a New Zealand release date haven't been listed yet.

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Post by Gonstead » Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:05 am

DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:Details on a New Zealand release date haven't been listed yet.
I'm pretty sure it will be the same as the Australian release date.
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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:11 am

Gonstead wrote:
DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:Details on a New Zealand release date haven't been listed yet.
I'm pretty sure it will be the same as the Australian release date.
I always thought it was a month later.

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Post by Gonstead » Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:29 am

DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:
Gonstead wrote:
DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:Details on a New Zealand release date haven't been listed yet.
I'm pretty sure it will be the same as the Australian release date.
I always thought it was a month later.
That didn't seem to be the case with Part 7.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai - Part Eight

Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:12 am

Gonstead wrote:That didn't seem to be the case with Part 7.
Where'd you buy it from? According to Madman's website Part 7 was meant to hit shelves in AUS on 23/5 while in New Zealand it was meant to come out on 14/6.
For reference:
http://www.madman.com.au/catalogue/view ... n-7-bluray
http://www.madman.co.nz/catalogue/view/ ... n-7-bluray
Speaking of which, I still haven't bought Part 7. :P

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Post by Gonstead » Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:35 am

Ahh, I must have gotten my dates mixed up with something else.

Kinda stupid on how the AUS and NZ releases are a month apart. Is there a specific reason why?
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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:53 am

Gonstead wrote:Ahh, I must have gotten my dates mixed up with something else.

Kinda stupid on how the AUS and NZ releases are a month apart. Is there a specific reason why?
Madman have made many odd decisions over the years. :P My theory is that Madman, being an Australian company, hate New Zealand. :P

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