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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:43 pm

ringworm128 wrote:There's something about that drawing of Vegeta I don't like.
He looks very kiddy.

During the early time of DBZ he's pretty short and kid-alike, but this doesn't seem right anyway.
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Post by samuraix123 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:10 pm

In a way I'm very happy if this ends up being true and in another way I'm very sad because that means I gotta wait longer for those Dragon-boxes :P but if this is real, I'm still worried about the video quality.
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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by Gaffer Tape » Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:33 pm

I concur that my only problem with this (if it is indeed true) would be if we got this instead of Dragon Boxes. Otherwise, I certainly don't mind people having the nostalgia trip. I really don't need it, though, as I still have all the tapes I recorded back in the day if I ever want to relive those days. But even if that wasn't the case, if I had to choose between the two, I'd definitely take more Dragon Boxes, and I'd be furious if we got something as unnecessary as this instead of it.
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Post by linkdude20002001 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:35 pm

b_boult wrote:I should have known better than to trust Wikipedia. Not sure what to make of this release anymore then...
There's a site too! Haha. But I don't think it rules anything out necessarily. Episode 26 (technically episode 35) is the last episode of the Saiyan arc.
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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by b_boult » Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:11 pm

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b_boult wrote:I should have known better than to trust Wikipedia. Not sure what to make of this release anymore then...
There's a site too! Haha. But I don't think it rules anything out necessarily. Episode 26 (technically episode 35) is the last episode of the Saiyan arc.
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On further reflection, I am inclined to back what I said in my original post again, that is to say, this boxset will be a re-release of the Saban episodes. Whilst the "Saiyan Conflict" boxset didn't include the 26th episode "Battle's End", as you correctly pointed out, perhaps FUNimation decided that it would make more sense to bundle this with the 'Saiyan Conflict' episodes in the event of any re-release, given that the episode in question is the obvious 'natural' conclusion to that saga. I think the DVDs in the Saiyan Conflict boxset were primarily designed to be sold seperately anyway, thus accounting for the overlap between sagas when they bundled the discs together in a boxset, which obviously, a dedicated re-release by FUNimation could avoid. Hence, the logic goes, a 26 episode set...
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Post by Pretorious » Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:02 pm

The more I think about this, the more I think it would be cool to have. I don't know if I want it enough to buy it, and, like other posters said, it's not nearly as cool as more Dragon Boxes (which I WILL buy when they come), but I am watching the last two episodes of the first run of the Ocean dub, and I am kind of surprised that I still like it. I knew I liked the Ocean movies with the original score, but even the TV show with its replacement music is enjoyable. I like the Shuki Levy music much much better than the Falconer stuff.

There are even parts that are intended to be funny and actually are funny. Like Goku saying "I saw an opening that seemed to scream out...'attack,' so...I did. Ha!" Great acting. Wonky script, but great acting. That alone makes it worth watching to me. Even the bad lines feel natural and it's not embarrassing to watch like the Texas cast version.

And since it came up, I am pretty sure the first time Cartoon Network showed the Rock the Dragon intro was when they first aired Tree of Might.

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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by ShadowDude112 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:10 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:I concur that my only problem with this (if it is indeed true) would be if we got this instead of Dragon Boxes. Otherwise, I certainly don't mind people having the nostalgia trip. I really don't need it, though, as I still have all the tapes I recorded back in the day if I ever want to relive those days. But even if that wasn't the case, if I had to choose between the two, I'd definitely take more Dragon Boxes, and I'd be furious if we got something as unnecessary as this instead of it.
I mean, I honestly want the Movies Box more than this. Honestly, I don't hate the remastered ones, but some of the video is kind of meh, and I want better Japanese audio. Not only that, but if in the past 3 years since they announced getting all 13 movies, they also got the 4 Dragon Ball movies and the TV specials, I kind of want those too. The DB movies since my Movie 4 pack has really bad Japanese audio and the TV Specials because I want the Dragon Box 4:3 version of them.

OT: If this is real, I might pick it up. By might, I mean I most likely will. But if it's not, then I won't have a problem since it's not that big of a deal.
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Post by Gokuden » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:19 pm

Yeah, it looks like it's Kid Vegeta on the box-art, instead of adult Bejita.
Unbelievable how people keep crying about the SD Dragon Boxes, why don't y'all just wait for the Blu-Ray remasters that will be coming out in the next 3-5 years?
Remember, 2K televisions will be mainstream in 5 years from now, people are still beating the obsolete 480p DVDs to death.
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Post by Pretorious » Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:24 pm

Gokuden wrote:Unbelievable how people keep crying about the SD Dragon Boxes, why don't y'all just wait for the Blu-Ray remasters that will be coming out in the next 3-5 years?
1) A lot of people, including me, don't have a problem with SD, which is how the show was originally presented anyway.
2) People don't want to wait because the Dragon Boxes already exist and are a near-perfect (or at least good enough) archival version. They just need to be released outside of Japan.
3) 3-5 years is a long time for most people.

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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by ShadowDude112 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:27 pm

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Gokuden wrote:Unbelievable how people keep crying about the SD Dragon Boxes, why don't y'all just wait for the Blu-Ray remasters that will be coming out in the next 3-5 years?
1) A lot of people, including me, don't have a problem with SD, which is how the show was originally presented anyway.
2) People don't want to wait because the Dragon Boxes already exist and are a near-perfect (or at least good enough) archival version. They just need to be released outside of Japan.
3) 3-5 years is a long time for most people.
Also, because the Dragon Boxes are a format I'm, perfectly fine with having Dragon Ball on. I want more 480p DVD Dragon Boxes. Why? Because that's how they were made, they still look beautiful like that, and because it'll be consistent. All on DVD. I don't count Kai, since it was made in HD. But the original 3 were in 480p, that's how I want them on home video.
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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by superrayman3 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:36 pm

ShadowDude112 wrote:I mean, I honestly want the Movies Box more than this.
That's understandable FUNi's been sitting on the DBOX movies since they got the Z DBOX's so it's only natural to want them more than what we might be getting if this whole ocean DBZ set is released, now as for why FUNi hasn't made the movie DBOX available by now is beyond me since if they have no plans to release it at all (which at the moment seems to be the case), then what the hell was the point in getting it at all? Talk about a major waste of money.
ShadowDude112 wrote:Honestly, I don't hate the remastered ones, but some of the video is kind of meh, and I want better Japanese audio.
Agreed Japanese audio for the remastered sets is atrocious.
ShadowDude112 wrote:Not only that, but if in the past 3 years since they announced getting all 13 movies, they also got the 4 Dragon Ball movies and the TV specials, I kind of want those too.
I can't comment on the specials but if FUNi decides to do a DBOX release of the movies they better include all 17 of them like the original Japanese box did.
ShadowDude112 wrote:The DB movies since my Movie 4 pack has really bad Japanese audio and the TV Specials because I want the Dragon Box 4:3 version of them.
Yeah the Japanese audio is pretty bad in that set and TBCH other than the 5.1 english audio mixes for all the movies and the inclusion of movie 1 uncut, I'm very disappointed in the video quality that the movie 4 pack offers, check here for more information: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... 1&start=20
ShadowDude112 wrote:OT: If this is real, I might pick it up. By might, I mean I most likely will. But if it's not, then I won't have a problem since it's not that big of a deal.
If this is real I'll probably pick it up either way just so I can have the best quality release of FUNi's first dub of DBZ.
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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ in July

Post by Gaffer Tape » Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:12 pm

Gokuden wrote:Unbelievable how people keep crying about the SD Dragon Boxes, why don't y'all just wait for the Blu-Ray remasters that will be coming out in the next 3-5 years?
Because they won't have the next episode previews, credits, or title cards.
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Post by Gokuden » Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:51 am

Haha, the anime wasn't made in 480p people,the movies were recorded with 35mm film, while the anime used 24mm. The masters that Funimation have are only 16mm, and look at how great the picture presents itself.

Depending on the film, you can get anywhere from 2k-8000p in terms of video quality. The show was originally broadcast in 480i, not 480p btw. So, there was a tremendous amount of detail loss. Sorry 'purists', but the detailed experience is the high resolution one; not the one based on nostalgia.

Some people just care about nostalgia, that's fine. There no true way DB was 'meant' to be displayed, except for the 4:3 form.

Title cards I can remaster lol, the orange brick way. :wink:

Episode previews are a must thought.
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Post by Kendamu » Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:53 am

Gokuden wrote:Haha, the anime wasn't made in 480p people,the films were recorded with 35mm film, while the anime used 24mm. The masters that Funimation have are only 16mm, and look at how great the picture looks.
Depending on the film, you can get anywhere from 2k-8000p in terms of video quality. The show was originally broadcast in480i, not 480p btw. So, there was a tremendous amount of detail loss. Sorry 'purists', but the detailed experience is the high resolution one; not the one based on nostalgia.

Title cards I can remaster lol, the orange brick way. :wink:

Episode previews are a must thought.

I never remember any of those complaints being a part of this particular discussion to begin with. :?
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Post by Gokuden » Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:57 am

Kendamu wrote:
Gokuden wrote:Haha, the anime wasn't made in 480p people,the films were recorded with 35mm film, while the anime used 24mm. The masters that Funimation have are only 16mm, and look at how great the picture looks.
Depending on the film, you can get anywhere from 2k-8000p in terms of video quality. The show was originally broadcast in480i, not 480p btw. So, there was a tremendous amount of detail loss. Sorry 'purists', but the detailed experience is the high resolution one; not the one based on nostalgia.

Title cards I can remaster lol, the orange brick way. :wink:

Episode previews are a must thought.

I never remember any of those complaints being a part of this particular discussion to begin with. :?
Very unfortunate. Some of us read through threads before posting.
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Pretorious wrote:
1) A lot of people, including me, don't have a problem with SD, which is how the show was originally presented anyway.
2) People don't want to wait because the Dragon Boxes already exist and are a near-perfect (or at least good enough) archival version. They just need to be released outside of Japan.
3) 3-5 years is a long time for most people.
Also, because the Dragon Boxes are a format I'm, perfectly fine with having Dragon Ball on. I want more 480p DVD Dragon Boxes. Why? Because that's how they were made, they still look beautiful like that, and because it'll be consistent. All on DVD. I don't count Kai, since it was made in HD. But the original 3 were in 480p, that's how I want them on home video.[/quote]
Gaffer Tape wrote:Unbelievable how people keep crying about the SD Dragon Boxes, why don't y'all just wait for the Blu-Ray remasters that will be coming out in the next 3-5 years?
Because they won't have the next episode previews, credits, or title cards.[/quote]
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Post by kei17 » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:03 am

Gokuden wrote:Haha, the anime wasn't made in 480p people,the movies were recorded with 35mm film, while the anime used 24mm. The masters that Funimation have are only 16mm, and look at how great the picture presents itself.
I've never heard of anything called 24mm film. Toei filmed the TV series on 16mm from the beginning, so there's no difference between Toei's and FUNimation's masters resolution-wise. People here tend to want to think that FUNimation's film masters are inferior to Toei's because they're multi-generational, but they're just the same generational masters that were printed years earlier.
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Post by Kendamu » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:13 am

Gokuden wrote:
Very unfortunate. Some of us read through threads before posting.]
Don't be a jerk. :problem:

The vast majority of this conversation has been about a possible future release with the Ocean Group cast. Small references to how people would've rather a new Dragon Box release came up, but nothing really out of the ordinary. I don't see how DBZ's potential for 2k resolution has much to do with discussion over the legitimacy of the listings as seen on the first page.

If there was more to it, sorry for not making it the main point of the conversation and instead trying to stay on topic.
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Post by kei17 » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:20 am

Kendamu wrote:
Gokuden wrote:
Very unfortunate. Some of us read through threads before posting.]
Don't be a jerk. :problem:

The vast majority of this conversation has been about a possible future release with the Ocean Group cast. Small references to how people would've rather a new Dragon Box release came up, but nothing really out of the ordinary. I don't see how DBZ's potential for 2k resolution has much to do with discussion over the legitimacy of the listings as seen on the first page.
Yeah, it's not relevant to the topic, but clearing up a misunderstanding is necessary I guess.

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Post by Attitudefan » Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:21 am

Well, news is spreading all over the net now. Hell, even friends of mine who I thought weren't even DB fans are excited for this! :thumbup:
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