So MLP Just Went DBZ....

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

That's what I'm saying. I'm sure most fans don't care. Both in MLP and Dbz.

By the sounds of it MLP is overrated beyond God's comprehension if its being seriously compared to every other form of popular entertainment today. Its so frustrating fueling the absurdity. Cameos and illogical crossovers everywhere regardless of relevance, just for shameless self-promotion of an okay show. Seriously, the PPG was better IMO. Its hype isnt remotely close to the infinite trend of this. Of all things, to say MLP has better writting and animation than DBZ isnt even trolling at this point.

[thatdbzguy]

Of all things, to say MLP has better writing and animation than DBZ isnt even trolling at this point.

Why? DBZ isn't even well-written, so why is it so hard to believe that another kids cartoon is better-written than it?

[TheGmGoken]

Of all things, to say MLP has better writing and animation than DBZ isnt even trolling at this point.

Why? DBZ isn't even well-written, so why is it so hard to believe that another kids cartoon is better-written than it?

Saiyan and Freeza arc wasn't well written? I would say Cyborg Cell but we both know how you will react. I've seen MLP and my little sisters watch. When I babysit or go to work I see it. The show isn't impressive. It's average writing. Up until Boo arc Dbz had excellent writing.

[Flame Dragon]

Who cares about an episodic show being well written? Nothing that happens has any meaning to the complete story anyway. And no, the season finales don't save the show from its overall structure.

[thatdbzguy]

Saiyan and Freeza arc wasn't well written? I would say Cyborg Cell but we both know how you will react. I've seen MLP and my little sisters watch. When I babysit or go to work I see it. The show isn't impressive. It's average writing. Up until Boo arc Dbz had excellent writing.

The Saiyan and Freeza arcs might not be as pitifully written as the Cell or Boo arcs, but they still suffer from characters losing common sense for the sake of the plot, VERY unequal attention given to the heroes, two-dimensional characters, rehashing, etc.

Who cares about an episodic show being well written? Nothing that happens has any meaning to the complete story anyway. And no, the season finales don't save the show from its overall structure.

Actually, despite being in episodic format, the show still cleverly leads up to the season finale in season 4 by having the characters each discovering their own special kind of item that will help them in the finale.

[TheGmGoken]

That makes good writing. Then how is Z writing bag. When Saiyan arc sets up Freeza arc like a million bucks. How is that any different.

Edit:
Ask my little sisters.
The 9 year old said "The show is boring and too colorful"

I know Bronies.in rea life. Everyone got opinion. Just don't treat it like fact
The youngest said "PONIES"

[ABED]

VERY unequal attention given to the heroes

I don't see this as a negative, Goku and Gohan are the main heroes and rightfully get most of the attention.

[JEFFMAN219]

No offence but I find it disturbing that some grown men watch my little pony.

[TheGmGoken]

VERY unequal attention given to the heroes

I don't see this as a negative, Goku and Gohan are the main heroes and rightfully get most of the attention.

Not to mention people exaggerate on this point. When was Krillin useless? When was Ten useless? How about Vegeta, Trunks, Goten, and Piccolo. Goku step out the spotlight a lot.

[VegettoEX]

No offence but I find it disturbing that some grown men watch my little pony.

As Gaffer Tape noted much earlier, I'd be curious what you then think about the grown women, especially the active ones here in this community, watching Dragon Ball Z, a show for little boys.

So can we seriously not get all sexist here and instead keep things on track? I'm super close to locking the thread, which has seemingly long out-lived any useful purpose it had beyond "yeah that scene was sorta like DBZ".

[TheGmGoken]

No offence but I find it disturbing that some grown men watch my little pony.

As Gaffer Tape noted much earlier, I'd be curious what you then think about the grown women, especially the active ones here in this community, watching Dragon Ball Z, a show for little boys.

So can we seriously not get all sexist here and instead keep things on track? I'm super close to locking the thread, which has seemingly long out-lived any useful purpose it had beyond "yeah that scene was sorta like DBZ".

How is that sexist? I'm damn sure that being weirded out by something unusual isnt sexist. If you walk in on a man watching MLP you're going be like "The hell?". That's isn't sexist at all. If you see a female do the same for Z you might go "Wow didn't expect that". That's not sexist. Please stop with this sexist stuff. If the word "girl" is mentioned on this site it turns to a sexist debate.

If I see a man watch a girl shows I wouldn't care. But a little girl show is a little weird. That's not sexist. Its called being weird aka guilty pleasure. EVERYONE is weird. Just because it includes the word female doesn't make it sexist. Damb I'm tired of that. I can say Chi Chi is a bad character. On this fourm that makes me sexist.

[Ajay]

Stop playing the victim, you clearly don't understand what you're talking about.

This thread consists of people bagging on males for enjoying a show aimed at little girls while simultaneously considering it okay for a girl to enjoy a show aimed at little boys.

It's a sexist double standard.

[TheGmGoken]

Stop playing the victim, you clearly don't understand what you're talking about.

This thread consists of people bagging on males for enjoying a show aimed at little girls while simultaneously considering it okay for a girl to enjoy a show aimed at little boys.

It's a sexist double standard.

I'm playing Victim? I said it was WEIRD. Doesn't make it sexist. I'll say seeing a girl watching UFC is weird as well. I'm not playing victim. I'm stating my point of view.

A grown man watching a lil girl show might be weird. A girl watching Dbz might not be weird to them. Not sexist. Everyone got a different interpretation of weird. I see people who are shock not being sexist.

[Super Sonic]

It sounds as if you're perpetuating the stereotype and double standard that it's ok for Women to watch boys' cartoons, but not ok for men to watch girls' cartoons. For some reason that's only with anime as given how many guys like Ouran and Shojo anime and aren't afraid to admit it, but that's another topic. Also some guys like Friendship is Magic as one recurring character is voiced by this man:



He is very popular.

[TheGmGoken]

All I said was it was weird. That's not wrong as everyone is weird. It'll be weird if I saw my best friend watch Gurren Lagann. Saying something weird is not stereotype or sexist. It just mean unusual

[ABED]

I think if most were being honest with themselves, when they first heard of Bronies, or just guys watching shows aimed primarily at little girls, they thought it was weird.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Of all things, to say MLP has better writing and animation than DBZ isnt even trolling at this point.

Why? DBZ isn't even well-written, so why is it so hard to believe that another kids cartoon is better-written than it?

DBZ isnt "well written" to you only because of certain subjective hiccups you particularly don't like right? Even if other people do, they must remain serious flaws regardless right? Of course if you dump on a show as much as you do - any show will sound better but your comparisons are too shallow for that even to sound debatable. MLP of all things though, its far too much of an overstatement for me to even consider. Your comparisons are abstract and hypocritical more often than believable for me. As I said earlier I don't see anything in that clip resembling DBZ besides just huge explosions and yelling. Thats not what DB is, thats what you want it to be for your position.

(Rant) In general I've heard MLP get more praise than even Shakespere and for what reason? Just to force it in society for it to be acceptable to like as a male. Instead of just accepting it yourself and moving on the fanbase seems to need to preach their excuse in order to nullify any doubt rather than proving it with reasonable varification. Its the same logic insecure male SM fans used to use: "I leik et fur the hawt woh-meyn.". Its not a debate when it comes to that, its just pretentious delusion, not an argument. Even the Touhou fanbase isnt this narcissistic.

Stop playing the victim, you clearly don't understand what you're talking about.

This thread consists of people bagging on males for enjoying a show aimed at little girls while simultaneously considering it okay for a girl to enjoy a show aimed at little boys.

It's a sexist double standard.

It isnt actually, the discussion is about how excessively forced it is into every single media fandom bypassing relevance. I also havent seen any cases with girls that like a boy show taking it as far as some of the majority of bronies that indeed have hypersexualizations of the characters they watch.

[Metalwario64]

I don't really care if a grown man likes My Little MLP. What does bother me are the ones that use it as an outlet for their pedophilia or bestiality (or both in most cases), in which case I'm utterly disgusted and appalled, but that's a separate issue.

It's a similar situation to the Sonic fanbase, where there are a large number of furries in the fanbase, but that doesn't mean it's wrong to like Sonic games.

[Cure Dragon 255]

Of all things, to say MLP has better writing and animation than DBZ isnt even trolling at this point.

Why? DBZ isn't even well-written, so why is it so hard to believe that another kids cartoon is better-written than it?

DBZ isnt "well written" to you only because of certain subjective hiccups you particularly don't like right? Even if other people do, they must remain serious flaws regardless right? Of course if you dump on a show as much as you do - any show will sound better but your comparisons are too shallow for that even to sound debatable. MLP of all things though, its far too much of an overstatement for me to even consider. Your comparisons are abstract and hypocritical more often than believable for me. As I said earlier I don't see anything in that clip resembling DBZ besides just huge explosions and yelling. Thats not what DB is, thats what you want it to be for your position.

(Rant) In general I've heard MLP get more praise than even Shakespere and for what reason? Just to force it in society for it to be acceptable to like as a male. Instead of just accepting it yourself and moving on the fanbase seems to need to preach their excuse in order to nullify any doubt rather than proving it with reasonable varification. Its the same logic insecure male SM fans used to use: "I leik et fur the hawt woh-meyn.". Its not a debate when it comes to that, its just pretentious delusion, not an argument. Even the Touhou fanbase isnt this narcissistic.

Stop playing the victim, you clearly don't understand what you're talking about.

This thread consists of people bagging on males for enjoying a show aimed at little girls while simultaneously considering it okay for a girl to enjoy a show aimed at little boys.

It's a sexist double standard.

It isnt actually, the discussion is about how excessively forced it is into every single media fandom bypassing relevance. I also havent seen any cases with girls that like a boy show taking it as far as some of the majority of bronies that indeed have hypersexualizations of the characters they watch.

While this argument IS sound and I AM on your side...You havent heard of yaoi have you?

[B]

Actually, despite being in episodic format, the show still cleverly leads up to the season finale in season 4 by having the characters each discovering their own special kind of item that will help them in the finale.

You mean... foreshadowing? Literally every story does this.