A Super Saiyan God is something not many thought of. It's fine because it brings a new theme, a new plateau, a new element of uniqueness, rather than putting a number beside SSJ which seems redundant.KentalSSJ6 wrote:You say SSJ4 brought the SSJ levels too high yet Toriyama introduces 2 more and thats ok?omaro34 wrote:I hope GT gets lost this time. The Super Saiyan levels got way too high (SSJ4's design was cool though), and this led to crazy fan made stuff like Dragonball AF's design of SSJ5. Goku turning into a kid also annoyed me, piccolo ending up in hell forever was such an injustice it screamed failure, and the amazing ability to initiate creative wonderful story arcs filled with potential such as Baby and the Shadow Dragons and following that up with such poor execution was sad.
I hope Super finishes these re-telling Arcs soon, I want to see the new stuff.
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ROF had Gohan, Piccolo, Roshi, Krillin and Tien help against Freeza's soliders. U6 giving other people besides Goku and Vegeta is a good thing. GT was mainly just Goku and Pan. Other characters like Uub was pretty much a jobber and Vegeta didn't had a big role as a hero until he became a SSj4 from what I can remember.sintzu wrote:BOG centered around Goku but that changed during RF to Goku&Vegeta and U6 will center around them, Piccolo, Buu & Monaca.precita wrote:People complained GT was too Goku-centered, yet Super does the same just with Vegeta along for the ride.
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It doesn't make much difference between these characters fighting against mooks in RoF Arc and Oob, Vegeta, Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Pan fighting against mooks that came back from hell in Super 17 Arc, in the end we all know that Goku steps in to finish the conflict.Hellspawn28 wrote:ROF had Gohan, Piccolo, Roshi, Krillin and Tenshinhan help against Freeza's soliders. U6 giving other people besides Goku and Vegeta is a good thing. GT was mainly just Goku and Pan. Other characters like Uub was pretty much a jobber and Vegeta didn't had a big role as a hero until he became a SSj4 from what I can remember.
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Its the same result. In fact I think going from numbers to GOD is going more overboard then the name SSJ4. And SSGSS? That's more overboard then just SSJG. I'm sorry but Super Saiyan God really doesn't get a pass for just having a different thing at the end of the name. Also I can assure you that plenty of fans came up with the whole "Lets make Goku a god!" thing well before SSJG was a tinkle in Toriyama's eyes. Its the nature of fanfic.omaro34 wrote:A Super Saiyan God is something not many thought of. It's fine because it brings a new theme, a new plateau, a new element of uniqueness, rather than putting a number beside SSJ which seems redundant.KentalSSJ6 wrote:You say SSJ4 brought the SSJ levels too high yet Toriyama introduces 2 more and thats ok?omaro34 wrote:I hope GT gets lost this time. The Super Saiyan levels got way too high (SSJ4's design was cool though), and this led to crazy fan made stuff like Dragonball AF's design of SSJ5. Goku turning into a kid also annoyed me, piccolo ending up in hell forever was such an injustice it screamed failure, and the amazing ability to initiate creative wonderful story arcs filled with potential such as Baby and the Shadow Dragons and following that up with such poor execution was sad.
I hope Super finishes these re-telling Arcs soon, I want to see the new stuff.
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Talk about double standards. And SSJ4 is not more Super Saiyajin than SSJG is. It just is called "4" and that's it.omaro34 wrote:A Super Saiyan God is something not many thought of. It's fine because it brings a new theme, a new plateau, a new element of uniqueness, rather than putting a number beside SSJ which seems redundant.KentalSSJ6 wrote:You say SSJ4 brought the SSJ levels too high yet Toriyama introduces 2 more and thats ok?omaro34 wrote:I hope GT gets lost this time. The Super Saiyan levels got way too high (SSJ4's design was cool though), and this led to crazy fan made stuff like Dragonball AF's design of SSJ5. Goku turning into a kid also annoyed me, piccolo ending up in hell forever was such an injustice it screamed failure, and the amazing ability to initiate creative wonderful story arcs filled with potential such as Baby and the Shadow Dragons and following that up with such poor execution was sad.
I hope Super finishes these re-telling Arcs soon, I want to see the new stuff.
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Even after he got Ssj4 he didn't do anything worth mentioning.Hellspawn28 wrote:Vegeta didn't had a big role as a hero until he became a SSj4 from what I can remember.
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Well, there's a difference in focus. Even during the Super 17 arc, they still had the B plot about Goku being in hell, facing Freeza and Cell, and then getting stuck in a 2nd dimension for a while, finally being followed with Piccolo's return to allow him to escape. He had a big presence in the episodes, even while away from the main villain's battlefield.Noah wrote:It doesn't make much difference between these characters fighting against mooks in RoF Arc and Oob, Vegeta, Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Pan fighting against mooks that came back from hell in Super 17 Arc, in the end we all know that Goku steps in to finish the conflict.Hellspawn28 wrote:ROF had Gohan, Piccolo, Roshi, Krillin and Tenshinhan help against Freeza's soliders. U6 giving other people besides Goku and Vegeta is a good thing. GT was mainly just Goku and Pan. Other characters like Uub was pretty much a jobber and Vegeta didn't had a big role as a hero until he became a SSj4 from what I can remember.
Meanwhile, in Super, Goku was only getting one or two minutes at best in the initial episodes after Freeza's resurrection. And this is all just redoing a movie's story, so by its nature a more limited focus was more natural. We're now going to a new arc which seemingly will have a significantly larger main cast.
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GT will only live through video games now. It's relevance as anime is dead.
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Why are you reviving an old thread for a blanket statement? There are plenty of other threads about GT you could have chosen to spout your words in...so why pick this one that has been dead since December?Faisal Shourov wrote:GT will only live through video games now. It's relevance as anime is dead.
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It was less the ideas themselves and more the completely terrible execution. Aside from Goku becoming a kid, in the right hands, GT could of e good. But that's what makes it worse for me, all the potential just flushed down the drain.Necrosaber wrote:But it was casted aside on the grounds of ideasBlackCatScott wrote:I mean, it's already been cast aside by most fans anyway and I don't mind if they want to take the series in a different direction to GT. At the end of the day, it's not to be taken too seriously. I have my GT DVD's, and I can watch them and enjoy them whenever I want. It doesn't bother me what others think of it. While I may have my nitpicks, I still enjoy the series. That won't be lost on me.
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It's not going to be forgotten, they still make money from it, but Super does seem to be ignoring that it ever happened. It would be nice if Super would address it, though, and explain it away as maybe an alternate timeline.
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I think it's just part of the DB franchise as of movies and anime comics, but the canonical series are actually DB\DBZ (the manga, Kai, the anime), Super and the TV's specials about Bardack and Trunks.
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Maybe now it will be recovered at the end of Super? who knows
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No, GT still has the Dragon Ball branding, the DVDs have sold well as will the eventual Blu-Ray releases.
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I'm pretty sure GT is currently non-canon. If Super is officially confirmed to end after however many episodes, then I'd establish GT canon. The only thing I got right now is Goku and Vegeta using the Dragon Balls to wish their god powers away; maybe they're too dangerous? And as for Beerus, he probably goes to sleep or something.
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That future moment when Super ends, Toriyama's finished, and Toei decides to make a GT sequel called AF.
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GT is popular in heroes so I wouldn't be surprised if we get something related to it after he's done with Super.Xeztin wrote:That future moment when Super ends, Toriyama's finished, and Toei decides to make a GT sequel called AF.
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Like a complete rewrite?sintzu wrote:GT is popular in heroes so I wouldn't be surprised if we get something related to it after he's done with Super.
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GT ended a long time ago, so I doubt a sequel will ever happen. I think after Super is over, I think the series will take another decade rest and it will be rebooted like 10-15 years later.
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That or they'll just pick up where the shadow dragons arc left off and have the new stories set before the 100 year time skip.Anime Kitten wrote:Like a complete rewrite?sintzu wrote:GT is popular in heroes so I wouldn't be surprised if we get something related to it after he's done with Super.
There was a less chance of Toriyama returning to the franchise so anything's possible.Hellspawn28 wrote:
GT ended a long time ago, so I doubt a sequel will ever happen.
I think after Super is over, I think the series will take another decade rest.
and it will be rebooted like 10-15 years later.
There's no way they'll put it on hold for that long after Super, especially with how much $$$ they're making.
They'll more than likely have a new show start the week after Super's conclusion.
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