FUNI Super dub - What are your wishes?

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Re: FUNI Super dub - What are your wishes?

Post by DanielSSJ » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:49 pm

Speaking as a person who can't stand the Faulconer soundtrack, I don't really have a problem with Funimation including the broadcast score in their home release of Dragon Ball Z, as long as Kikuchi's is the default. I definitely agree that it was dumb to replace the score in the first place and I think Funimation should've just used the Kikuchi score to begin with, but what happened, happened. There's no use trying to pretend the Faulconer score doesn't exist, and if someone enjoys it, let them enjoy it. Of course, adding a replacement score in Super would be a terrible idea and there's no way that the Funimation of today would do it.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 2:56 am

DanielSSJ wrote: There's no use trying to pretend the Faulconer score doesn't exist, and if someone enjoys it, let them enjoy it.
Preferring and enjoying a certain score is one thing, but when you constantly and I mean CONSTANTLY see comments of people pining, whining, and downright demanding Faulconer to return, it doesnt take much to build up a resentment to everything related to it. Its like you cant escape it whenever DBZ and its music is brought up and it gets horribly annoying.
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Re: FUNI Super dub - What are your wishes?

Post by EXBadguy » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:17 pm

Heh, all this talk about morality and insults and shit really has me wondering if some people at Toei thought the same way as some of yall. As a matter in fact, to this day, I still find it a complete shock that Funi succeeded with the Falconer score and NEVER HAD TO be forced to change the score ONCE! I never read any rumors about fans and crazy weaboos(the ones who pretend everything in Japanese is infinite times better) writing death threats to get rid of the score. Maybe if some of yall were at your 20s and 30s back in the 90s, maybe they would've listened back then. I dunno. Hey mods, were you old enough to speak your minds against the Faulconer scores back then? And if you were, did you write them letters? And most of all, WHERE WAS TORIYAMA?! Was he mad about Faulconer too like yall are?

Just make sure yall don't go ahead and call the replacement soundtrack for BT2 and BT3 insults, or it's on! :lol:
KentalSSJ6 wrote: Preferring and enjoying a certain score is one thing, but when you constantly and I mean CONSTANTLY see comments of people pining, whining, and downright demanding Faulconer to return, it doesnt take much to build up a resentment to everything related to it. Its like you cant escape it whenever DBZ and its music is brought up and it gets horribly annoying.
Oh yes, I agree. It's also the same way I felt when people were begging and demanding for Dimps to put Kikuchi's tracks in for Xenoverse, but there wasn't any outrage about people constantly demanding it, was there? And no, I don't hate Kikuchi...anymore.
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Post by Pokewhiz7 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:38 pm

Kaboom wrote:Kikuchi's score being put in Kai is perfectly fine because 1) it's Toei's prerogative as the show's creators to replace the music if they deem it necessary, and 2) Yamamoto's plagiarism shenanigans probably did make it necessary. I really want to stress the "as the show's creators" part. It's their creation, so it's cool if they decide to do that stuff for some good reason. FUNi's job is only to dub it, so it wasn't and still wouldn't be cool or okay for them to do things like swap out the music in the process.
I'm aware it was a necessity, but I take issue with them being allowed to replace music otherwise as they please just because they're the show's creators. I don't think they have a right to tamper with the show once it's been made any more than George Lucas has a right to tamper with Star Wars once it's been made.

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Post by Puto » Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:58 pm

They didn't replace music "as they please", they replaced music to avoid getting their asses sued.
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Post by Pokewhiz7 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:00 pm

Pokewhiz7 wrote:I'm aware it was a necessity
He made it seem like they also have an artistic right to.

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Post by DragonHermit » Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:16 am

Come on let's get real. Super's score is fucking terrible. It bores you to tears. The original JPNese score had some good songs, but this has 1 good song max.

Faulconer's music did for DB in North America what the Pokemon theme song did. Even people who don't watch Pokemon love that song, and it made the series just that much more exciting. (Yes it is possible for one song to do that much in terms of promotion/nostalgia)

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Post by DanielSSJ » Sat Jan 09, 2016 4:56 am

DragonHermit wrote:Come on let's get real. Super's score is fucking terrible. It bores you to tears. The original JPNese score had some good songs, but this has 1 good song max.

Faulconer's music did for DB in North America what the Pokemon theme song did. Even people who don't watch Pokemon love that song, and it made the series just that much more exciting. (Yes it is possible for one song to do that much in terms of promotion/nostalgia)
While I will agree that Super's music is pretty bland, I don't think that replacing it with Faulconer's score would be an improvement.
Also, if a show has to rely on nostalgia in order to be popular, then what does it say about the quality of said show?
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Post by Super Sonic » Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:01 pm

Was thinking lately, if there are new characters, would you guys want them voiced by veterans, or guys are more new to voice acting or guys who haven't been in big roles yet?

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Post by Kaboom » Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:04 pm

DragonHermit wrote:Faulconer's music did for DB in North America what the Pokemon theme song did.
You mean "be a completely unnecessary change?"

I have a huge nostalgic love for the US Pokemon theme too. But I also have no doubt that kids in the West would have loved and cherished a halfway-accurate English adaptation of Mezase Pokemon Master just as much as they did with the US theme song.
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Post by jcogginsa » Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:13 pm

Kaboom wrote:
DragonHermit wrote:Faulconer's music did for DB in North America what the Pokemon theme song did.
You mean "be a completely unnecessary change?"

I have a huge nostalgic love for the US Pokemon theme too. But I also have no doubt that kids in the West would have loved and cherished a halfway-accurate English adaptation of Mezase Pokemon Master just as much as they did with the US theme song.
I do. The american theme was leagues better than that.

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Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:27 pm

Gonna repeat my last sentiment, skip. the. fucking. movie- re-tellings! Just rebrand BoG & F as prologues to Super, air those before the U6 arc, tell the re-tellings to go drop dead in a vat of acid and I'll be satisfied.
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Post by EXBadguy » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:13 am

ekrolo2 wrote:Gonna repeat my last sentiment, skip. the. fucking. movie- re-tellings! Just rebrand BoG & F as prologues to Super, air those before the U6 arc, tell the re-tellings to go drop dead in a vat of acid and I'll be satisfied.
Remember...that's also an insult to the series too, just as bad as replacement scores. :lol:
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Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:06 pm

EXBadguy wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:Gonna repeat my last sentiment, skip. the. fucking. movie- re-tellings! Just rebrand BoG & F as prologues to Super, air those before the U6 arc, tell the re-tellings to go drop dead in a vat of acid and I'll be satisfied.
Remember...that's also an insult to the series too, just as bad as replacement scores. :lol:
As insulting as the existence of these re-tellings is? I doubt it, given how mediocre Sumitomo's score is for Super I doubt many people here would be opposed to someone else coming in and (God forbid) ejecting some energy into the soundtrack at least even if its a replacement score. Might be blasphemy to say so but the whole replacement score thing is an "issue" I don't really care about as long as the music is good.
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Post by mecha3000 » Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:02 pm

I wish for them to skip the first two arcs and just start with the Champa/U6 content. They can always come back later and release the first two arcs as "Dragon Ball Super: Beerus Saga" and "Dragon Ball Super: Golden Frieza Saga". I know some people might say "Revival of Frieza Saga" is better (and it probably is), since Resurrection F came out already, I kind of like Golden Frieza Saga better because DB Sagas usually just use villain names as their titles.

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Post by SilverPlaqueVII » Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:05 am

Since Tights is voiced by Bulma's seiyuu, would it be possible to have the daughters of Dr. Brief to be voiced by the two actresses be like this:

* Tiffany Vollmer (Bulma) and Monica Rial (Tights) (SCENARIO A)
* Monica Rial (Bulma) and Colleen Clinkenbeard (Tights) (SCENARIO B)
* Monica Rial (Bulma) and Kara Edwards (Tights) (SCENARIO C)
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Post by Valerius Dover » Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:09 am

^I could potentially see either of Scenarios B or C happening, though it would perhaps be nice if they got someone new to Dragon Ball.
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Post by Danfun64 » Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:54 pm

Getting the original sound effects back. Barring that, being released in Surround Sound in the DVD/Blu-Ray like the previous shows, so that fan edited audio with original sound effects are released later. As much as I prefer the Japanese cast, the changes in sound effects are unacceptable. It's like changing the lightsaber sound effects in Star Wars, or changing the VWORP VWORP from Doctor Who, or giving the Road Runner a completely different "voice" for his Meep-Meeping. These sound effects are iconic for their respective franchises, and it saddens me that Super replaced practically all of the iconic sounds that the Dragon Ball franchise had.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:32 pm

I picture Rob Paulsen dubbing Champa in my head, but I doubt he will ever dub a Dragon Ball character.
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Post by rs_chaosmaster » Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:55 pm

My wish is for it to come out before 2018 but i highly doubt it will get released before it is aired on Toonami which means we got a long wait ahead of us :'(

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