Opinions on Dragon Ball YouTubers ?

[Scorpio Kardia]

The fact that any of these people manage to make a living out of Dragon Ball by: uploading videos with clickbait thumbnails which are clearly fake; spreading false and random information; literally copying and pasting what Herms says on Twitter and making a video out of it; copying and pasting a random article posted on Kanzenshuu or reacting to Dragon Ball episodes as soon as they are released; cursing and shouting makes me sick. Seriously they should send Herms or Kanzenshuu a check every month for the revenue that they get from putting ads on their videos after stealing information from them.

It's clear to me these people aren't even so called "Dragon Ball YouTubers" out of love for the franchise, it's just a cash cow for them, where clicks are much more important than passing reliable information. Because guess what? If they actually bothered to make a well informed video, without some clearly fake image of " OMFG Goku going Super Saiyan 5 God White" they wouldn't get any views. Which is why Kanzenshuu podcasts that are posted on YouTube have 1,000 views compared to the 100k to 1 million views these trash videos managed to pull in like 2 weeks.

But ultimately it's the dumb YouTube viewers fault for even being fooled into watching that type of trash. We've gotten to the point where some of these "Dragon Ball" Youtubers are actually considered dragon ball influencers by corporations like Bandai Namco, and that's just sad...I'm also surprised that people on this forum actually watch trash like that to. Why listen to a video of some guy ranting/complaining/stealing information when you have communities like these which are without a question better than the garbage that is a Youtube comment section? You actually go as far as fanboying over these losers, who naturally think they are worth something because they have these huge followings on YouTube. Plus in the case of Kanzenshuu users you know for a fact they are getting their information from this website, if you want to help someone then donate to Kanzenshuu for crying out loud!

Anyway I think Dragon Ball YouTubers are up there when it comes to the worst type of channels on YouTube, right below Reaction Channels, and other trash of the sort. I wish Toei would start copyright their channels and ban them from YouTube for spoiling the show every week and spreading false information. Then I wouldn't have to see those channels suggested to me on my home page just because I happen to like Dragon Ball.

I don't normally post but for some reason I felt like I wanted to share my opinion on this matter after reading some of the comments.

[batistabus]

I think the reason that Dragon Ball YouTubers are generally so horrible is because their content is largely composed of reactions/opinions, sometimes in response to incomplete (or false) information. I don't give a damn about what some random person thinks about Dragon Ball if they don't produce any other meaningful content or contributions to the fandom. Because of this, I have no tolerance for opinions I feel aren't properly thought out or that I disagree with. I disagree strongly with opinions that Ajay, MistareFusion, and individual members of TeamFourStar have, but because I respect their work, I respect our differences. If someone's contributions are simply things I disagree with presented in a sloppy format...why should I care?

The only reason I can fathom people caring about these types of channels are 1) they don't know where else to get good information, or 2) they just like hearing someone repeat their opinion back at them.

[MozillaVulpix]

There's a simple reason as to why people like getting information from Youtubers: it's quicker and it's easier and can sometimes have cool graphics and fancy images. People go the subscription feed for the day, see the thumbnail for something new, click on it, and listen. As opposed to having to trawl through the confusing labyrinth of a forum and go through countless pages to find information that may or may not be where they think it is. At least in terms of things like magazine scans and unconfirmed rumours, which generally don't show up on the main page.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

There's a simple reason as to why people like getting information from Youtubers: it's quicker and it's easier and can sometimes have cool graphics and fancy images. People go the subscription feed for the day, see the thumbnail for something new, click on it, and listen. As opposed to having to trawl through the confusing labyrinth of a forum and go through countless pages to find information that may or may not be where they think it is. At least in terms of things like magazine scans and unconfirmed rumours, which generally don't show up on the main page.

Come on now, is that really your honest impression of finding information on the forum? Slower than a 5 minute video? A labyrinth? Countless pages? Um... no. Unless one is absolutely clueless as to where anything is, you can find anything on here far more quickly and more accurately than you can from someones Youtube video.

Of course, social media is even more efficient than these forums, but Twitter is a terrible place for useful discussion and Facebook is horrible at displaying a useful timeline, among other things. The Tumblr community is full of painfully obnoxious people. So unless Minds or some other alternative social media site gains popularity in the near future, the Kanzenshuu Forums remain the best place to acquire and inquire about new information.

[MozillaVulpix]

There's a simple reason as to why people like getting information from Youtubers: it's quicker and it's easier and can sometimes have cool graphics and fancy images. People go the subscription feed for the day, see the thumbnail for something new, click on it, and listen. As opposed to having to trawl through the confusing labyrinth of a forum and go through countless pages to find information that may or may not be where they think it is. At least in terms of things like magazine scans and unconfirmed rumours, which generally don't show up on the main page.

Come on now, is that really your honest impression of finding information on the forum? Slower than a 5 minute video? A labyrinth? Countless pages? Um... no. Unless one is absolutely clueless as to where anything is, you can find anything on here far more quickly and more accurately than you can from someones Youtube video.

Of course, social media is even more efficient than these forums, but Twitter is a terrible place for useful discussion and Facebook is horrible at displaying a useful timeline, among other things. The Tumblr community is full of painfully obnoxious people. So unless Minds or some other alternative social media site gains popularity in the near future, the Kanzenshuu Forums remain the best place to acquire and inquire about new information.

This is getting a little bit off-topic, but yes. I stand by that. The accessibility of these forums, especially to newcomers, is pretty poor. Leaks and rumours about Super only show up in the main discussion thread, and that gets easily overrun with people discussing their own opinions about the rumour, to the point you have to keep going back through sometimes many pages of discussion before you find the direct source to the rumour in the first place. I remember the Super manga thread also getting particularly bad with sudden discussion making the original source (or at least Herms's direct translation of off-site magazine scans) taking a while to find. Whereas even Herms's Twitter account can show the information that's important as the first thing you'll be guaranteed to look at. Plus, unless you're religiously following that thread, there's no indication that a new piece of information dropped without at least looking back a little.

The only threads that I can agree are quicker than watching a Youtube video are things in Herms's Guide Guide and Ajay's animation catalogue. And Ajay's animation catalogue is something that was more suited to being videos in the first place, which is probably why he does that now.

A good example of a site to quickly obtain information is the r/dbz subreddit. The mods pin all the new information both at the top of the homepage and on the sidebar, the discussion of those are enclosed to their own pages, and they've got stuff like FAQs and the ability to search by tags. Kanzenshuu can't exactly do that, so I won't blame it for not doing it, but it means it feels a bit behind-the-times at points.

Even the Youtubers often post pictures of the source as the first thing in the video, so it's not like you even have to wait out all 5 minutes of the person explaining it if you don't want to.

[jjgp1112]

The whole concept of YouTubers completely escapes me. Or at least certain types. The guys like Ajay etc. who make informative videos and reviews - with actual video editing skills being put on display - and shit are fine, but the other folks, and the following that surrounds them..I don't get them at all. 90% of the videos I've seen are just people with terrible speaking voices making frequently inaccurate ramblings about a readily available news item. Like seriously. Just some guy talking into their crappy mic about news and posting it as a video, not serving any purpose that a message board couldn't already accomplish. Even more annoying, they drown out the actual informative news with all of their misleading tags and titles.

[Scorpio Kardia]

Just to add to my point above. Another thing that annoys me is the "Explained" type videos. There are a bunch of idiots on YouTube who go around creating videos titled "All Super Saiyan Forms Explained", or "Goku all transformations explained!". Seriously what is there to explain? Watch the show! These videos get hundreds of thousands of views, and I'm left wondering why people would even feel the need to click on said videos. Sometimes they even use actual footage from the shows, and it amazes me that Toei isn't taking them down.

Most importantly it seems that these people often times make false and incorrect assumptions, quote things that don't exist, and use their headcannon as facts. And of course your average dumb YouTube viewer then takes those statements as facts, like the blind followers that they are.

I get videos talking about the production of Dragon Ball, talking about animators, and so on. I think that can be interesting, but those videos get what? 1,000 views? It's kind of sad that they are lost in the swamp of trash that are Dragon Ball YouTubers.

It seriously annoys me, but that's mostly due to the fact that YouTube keeps suggesting said videos just because I like Dragon Ball.

It kind of makes me wish that Super ended, so that this untalented people can't keep milking it for money and views. Although being the leeches that they are they would just find something else to pretend to be fans of.

[Geekdom101]

Just to add to my point above. Another thing that annoys me is the "Explained" type videos. There are a bunch of idiots on YouTube who go around creating videos titled "All Super Saiyan Forms Explained", or "Goku all transformations explained!". Seriously what is there to explain? Watch the show! These videos get hundreds of thousands of views, and I'm left wondering why people would even feel the need to click on said videos. Sometimes they even use actual footage from the shows, and it amazes me that Toei isn't taking them down.

Most importantly it seems that these people often times make false and incorrect assumptions, quote things that don't exist, and use their headcannon as facts. And of course your average dumb YouTube viewer then takes those statements as facts, like the blind followers that they are.

I get videos talking about the production of Dragon Ball, talking about animators, and so on. I think that can be interesting, but those videos get what? 1,000 views? It's kind of sad that they are lost in the swamp of trash that are Dragon Ball YouTubers.

It seriously annoys me, but that's mostly due to the fact that YouTube keeps suggesting said videos just because I like Dragon Ball.

It kind of makes me wish that Super ended, so that this untalented people can't keep milking it for money and views. Although being the leeches that they are they would just find something else to pretend to be fans of.

You calling somebody an idiot after the ignorant nonsense you've spewed in this and your previous post is laughable. I was contemplating coming here and explaining Search Engine Optimization, explaining the power of Youtube when it comes to searches, explaining the algorithm and why you are getting video suggestions, explaining the business model between Bandai Namco and Youtube content creators with large audiences, explaining fair use, and just about everything else you seem to lack knowledge in, but you don't like explanations though, and I doubt you'd really understand.

You should look into these things a bit more.

And by the way, I agree with you on SOME of the things you said because they are valid. But a lot of it just sounds like salt.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Okay I made my stance about Geekdom and the "leaked" episode titles clear on the other thread so not bringing that up again here but what I have to say has been bothering me for sometime and has culminated the past few weeks with all the apology videos he has done (again credit for doing that but you shouldn't be in the position to need to do that), and that is Geekdom's episode reviews.

We now have a simulcast that goes up in an hour with legit good subtitles, so I don't know why he doesn't wait until then. He does it for his NEP breakdowns waits a day (which are by far my favourite of his videos) but why not his episode reviews, subtitles give you actual context of what is going on there is so much more interesting discussions he could have when watching the episode subbed instead of relying on choice tweets by xyz. I can totally understand pre-simulcast when we would have to wait days but now barely an hour! I spoke to him back then about another ep review when DragonTeam upload their subs but he said their wouldn't be much interest in a second review which I guess is fair enough but now I feel like there is no need to do an ep review based of a raw broadcast with some choice tweets.

Just some constructive criticism.

[Dbzfan94]

Okay I made my stance about Geekdom and the "leaked" episode titles clear on the other thread so not bringing that up again here but what I have to say has been bothering me for sometime and has culminated the past few weeks with all the apology videos he has done (again credit for doing that but you shouldn't be in the position to need to do that), and that is Geekdom's episode reviews.

We now have a simulcast that goes up in an hour with legit good subtitles, so I don't know why he doesn't wait until then. He does it for his NEP breakdowns waits a day (which are by far my favourite of his videos) but why not his episode reviews, subtitles give you actual context of what is going on there is so much more interesting discussions he could have when watching the episode subbed instead of relying on choice tweets by xyz. I can totally understand pre-simulcast when we would have to wait days but now barely an hour! I spoke to him back then about another ep review when DragonTeam upload their subs but he said their wouldn't be much interest in a second review which I guess is fair enough but now I feel like there is no need to do an ep review based of a raw broadcast with some choice tweets.

Just some constructive criticism.

I guess being the first video out = most views?

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Okay I made my stance about Geekdom and the "leaked" episode titles clear on the other thread so not bringing that up again here but what I have to say has been bothering me for sometime and has culminated the past few weeks with all the apology videos he has done (again credit for doing that but you shouldn't be in the position to need to do that), and that is Geekdom's episode reviews.

We now have a simulcast that goes up in an hour with legit good subtitles, so I don't know why he doesn't wait until then. He does it for his NEP breakdowns waits a day (which are by far my favourite of his videos) but why not his episode reviews, subtitles give you actual context of what is going on there is so much more interesting discussions he could have when watching the episode subbed instead of relying on choice tweets by xyz. I can totally understand pre-simulcast when we would have to wait days but now barely an hour! I spoke to him back then about another ep review when DragonTeam upload their subs but he said their wouldn't be much interest in a second review which I guess is fair enough but now I feel like there is no need to do an ep review based of a raw broadcast with some choice tweets.

Just some constructive criticism.

I guess being the first video out = most views?

It's what I think too but he constantly says he doesn't do things for views and money but that's the only reason I can think of.

[FortuneSSJ]

The fact that any of these people manage to make a living out of Dragon Ball by: uploading videos with clickbait thumbnails which are clearly fake; spreading false and random information; literally copying and pasting what Herms says on Twitter and making a video out of it; copying and pasting a random article posted on Kanzenshuu or reacting to Dragon Ball episodes as soon as they are released; cursing and shouting makes me sick. Seriously they should send Herms or Kanzenshuu a check every month for the revenue that they get from putting ads on their videos after stealing information from them.

This sums up my thoughts really well. Especially the part about Herms and Kanzenshuu.
These guys work their asses off to provide us with so much valid information and keep this site going, and then we have youtubers making money out of them and get praised by everyone without doing half the work.

Channels like Team Four Star, AnimeAjay or video game channels like DBZanto are more than welcome.
"Reviewers" earning money by copy/paste information not so much. I'm not talking about Dragon Ball youtubers in this part only, but more in an overall sense.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I'd like to remind both sides to tone down the attitudes on the subject; in this thread and the others where similar content has spilled over into. Every member of Kanzenshuu is expected to be civil and respectful of their peers, as outlined in the forum rules (specifically #4). Not only within this community, but the others across the internet.

It doesn't matter how valid the rest of your post content might be, if you can't hold a conversation without insulting fellow fans, you'll eventually find yourself on the receiving end of account strikes. They can and do add up, resulting in bans from the entirely of the website that'll render you unable to participate in this community.

Likewise, similarly toned responses to instigating posts aren't justified either. You will be reprimanded regardless. So, don't take it upon yourself to address the situation. If you have a problem with the content of someone's post, report it and leave it to the Mods or Admins to take care of. That's why the feature exists.

[Silkman3003]

I was contemplating coming here and explaining Search Engine Optimization, explaining the power of Youtube when it comes to searches, explaining the algorithm and why you are getting video suggestions, explaining the business model between Bandai Namco and Youtube content creators with large audiences, explaining fair use, and just about everything else you seem to lack knowledge in, but you don't like explanations though, and I doubt you'd really understand.

You should look into these things a bit more.

Hi Geekdom. Would you still be willing to explain them? I'm actually quite interested in the indepth explanation, and I'm sure other people who may see this thread might be interested too

[Dbzfan94]

Okay I made my stance about Geekdom and the "leaked" episode titles clear on the other thread so not bringing that up again here but what I have to say has been bothering me for sometime and has culminated the past few weeks with all the apology videos he has done (again credit for doing that but you shouldn't be in the position to need to do that), and that is Geekdom's episode reviews.

We now have a simulcast that goes up in an hour with legit good subtitles, so I don't know why he doesn't wait until then. He does it for his NEP breakdowns waits a day (which are by far my favourite of his videos) but why not his episode reviews, subtitles give you actual context of what is going on there is so much more interesting discussions he could have when watching the episode subbed instead of relying on choice tweets by xyz. I can totally understand pre-simulcast when we would have to wait days but now barely an hour! I spoke to him back then about another ep review when DragonTeam upload their subs but he said their wouldn't be much interest in a second review which I guess is fair enough but now I feel like there is no need to do an ep review based of a raw broadcast with some choice tweets.

Just some constructive criticism.

I guess being the first video out = most views?

It's what I think too but he constantly says he doesn't do things for views and money but that's the only reason I can think of.

I mean stuff like all the videos like "SSJ Caulifa and Kale explained" seems like a quick view/money grab because it's all explained in the show.
Unlike the Arcoasian video that was debunking the rumor of that being the Freeza race

[OLKv3]

Ajay's good because he points out a lot of things about animation and animator's techniques, things I wouldn't regularly notice in the episode before he explained their style
TFS I only watch their abridged videos. Don't care about Masako's "reviews" where he just recaps the episode as if I didn't just see it
DBZanto is great because he covers everything new about DB, and does playthroughs of the games

The rest is meh. I will never understand why people like these so called reviewers so much, but more power to them

[The gr]

Ajay's good because he points out a lot of things about animation and animator's techniques, things I wouldn't regularly notice in the episode before he explained their style
TFS I only watch their abridged videos. Don't care about Masako's "reviews" where he just recaps the episode as if I didn't just see it
DBZanto is great because he covers everything new about DB, and does playthroughs of the games

The rest is meh. I will never understand why people like these so called reviewers so much, but more power to them

Well I'm not a fan of all the reviewers,the only one I Care about is Mozilla,zeon and qaaman,the other reviewer just feel like a summary of the episode,I honestly think this is geekdom weakest content in his channel,his other video like debunking rumour or explaining things are arguably better,I wouldn't have mind if he stop doing the episode review like lsm and DB nation

[Scorpio Kardia]

This is going to be a long post but you mentioned me so I came to reply.

You calling somebody an idiot after the ignorant nonsense you've spewed in this and your previous post is laughable.

What is the ignorant nonsense that I spewed? I provided reasons as to why I don't like the Dragon Ball YouTuber channels that I have seen promoted on YouTube. None of the practices that I listed that Dragon Ball YouTube channels use to get views and money are untrue, and they are practices that I personally despise and don't approve. That is my opinion, if you find it laughable or if it personally offends you that's your right. The fact is all the things I listed happen on YouTube and are common practices used not only by Dragon Ball YouTube channels but by a wide majority of channels on YouTube. All that you need to do is open the front page of YouTube to verify it for yourself.

I was contemplating coming here and explaining Search Engine Optimization, explaining the power of Youtube when it comes to searches, explaining the algorithm and why you are getting video suggestions

If you really feel the need to explain them then by all means do. The reality is on YouTube people use keywords which they know are popular and commonly searched, and they use those keywords and tags to increase the probability of having their videos promoted and suggested by YouTube, even if the content of their video doesn't necessarily discuss the keywords that were used. It's not an overly complicated process to understand, but it is an automatic process with lots of flaws, which is why if you are a dragon ball fan you are bound to run into these types of channels. That is not an assumption by the way, there are plenty articles online that discuss branding, promotion and search engine optimization. But if you feel you have some more information to add on the matter then feel free to do so. Aside from that the tactics used by Dragon Ball YouTube channels to get noticed aren't that innovative: "USE ALL CAPS"; make outlandish titles like "OMFG GOKU CONFIRMED STRONGER THAN BEERUS!"; and use a clearly fake thumbnail of Gohan with green hair going super saiyan and there are plently of gullible people who will automatically click on those videos. Again this is something that happens all the time on YouTube. I could provide screenshots of the endless amount of pages to validate my claim, but I trust that most people in this forum are aware of that.

explaining the business model between Bandai Namco and Youtube content creators with large audiences

What is the business model? Bandai Namco sees that these Dragon Ball related channels have huge followings on YouTube and feel they can help promote their games and merchandise, so they use them as spokespeople for them, because they feel it will boost their sales. In return I'm sure Dragon Ball YouTubers get free products from Bandai Namco, and potentially monetary compensation. Is that not accurate? I'd argue that Bandai Namco is foolish, and that they overestimate the influence that these so called "dragon ball influencers" actually have, meaning that I don't think that these channels have an actual big impact on sales, and that game developers in general like Bandai Namco are wrong. In fact I'd argue that a lot of people who watch a Dragon Ball YouTuber play a Dragon Ball video game on YouTube are doing it because they just want to see that person play the game, and not because they are actually any more likely to go and buy the game themselves, but that's speculation on my part based on how a huge chunk of people seem to be on YouTube. If there is more to what I said, or if you have access to a market study that shows otherwise then please feel free to share it. I am intrigued about the real impact that Dragon Ball YouTubers have on the sales of Dragon Ball merchandise.

One thing is for sure if Bandai Namco really wanted they could copyright most Dragon Ball video games videos on YouTube. They don't do it because they seem to think it actually helps them, that and YouTube has come to accept their "gaming" community has a huge cash cow.

explaining fair use, and just about everything else you seem to lack knowledge in,

I am not a lawyer or a copyright expert, so obviously I don't have a complete understanding of every single law that goes with it. That said I think "fair use" on YouTube is extremely fuzzy and it leads to abuse by both corporations and users. What I do know is that people shield themselves behind "creative commons", and a lot of Dragon Ball YouTubers used a lot of footage in their videos (from the anime or manga) during their so called "Explained videos" "Top 10 lists" "Best battle lists" "Reviews" and whatever else I can think of. A lot of the times going on rants and rambling on without a purpose while using a bunch of footage that does not belong to them, not to mention the fake thumbnails and art that they use which again does not belong to them, and they are for profit. They don't do it because they are fans trying to spread good and accurate information (like Kanzenshuu or Herms), they do it for views and money which is why all their videos are monetized. As such it's well within Toei or anyone else that does actually own legal rights over Dragon Ball to decide to take said channels down, and I honestly wish that they did. Does that make me a bad person to you? That's fine, it's still my opinion, and I'm pretty sure that even without understanding copyright law in detail, at the very least Toei should have the right to prevent most Dragon Ball channels from monetizing their content, or Toei could just claim said videos for themselves. I'm sure it will happen one day.

I'm sure using still shots to some extent is acceptable, especially if you are discussing things like animators and so on, and you don't monetize your content. But that's not what most Dragon Ball YouTubers seem to do, so it seems like a mute point.

but you don't like explanations though, and I doubt you'd really understand.

I've been on Kanzenshuu since 2010, and I've made like 40 posts in these 7 years, and on this thread I merely posted my point of view. Therefore I don't know why you are assuming that I don't like explanations, when nobody tried to explain anything to me. More importantly I don't know where I have shown that I don't like to discuss or read explanations on any particular subject, unless you somehow have met me or interacted with me before, anyway I don't think that's a fair assumption to make but if that's what you want to think about me that's fine. To be honest your post came across as passive aggressive like you have some sort of personal stake in this battle.

Actually I have just now realized that you are a Dragon Ball YouTuber yourself, so maybe that's why you feel like you need to validate yourself and your channel existence. That's all good, but I think you did a terrible job if that was your goal. You accused me of being ignorant and talking nonsense, while not really providing counterpoints to my arguments. Again that's your right.

You should look into these things a bit more.

Look into what a bit more? Dragon Ball YouTubers? What did I miss? I already acknowledged in my previous posts that there are channels out there that do some good and offer actual interesting information that enriches the community, like discussing animators and so on. I will also concede that channels like "TeamFourStar" regardless of their legal right to do so can be positive influences in the internet dragon ball community. With that said I don't believe that most Dragon Ball YouTubers help the community in anyway, they are greedy people who probably had little to no career expectations and who saw a way to make a quick buck by exploiting the term "fair use" and stealing information from actual sources, or spreading false information (regardless if they are aware of it or not) for the sake of clicks and money. If that's not an accurate depiction of most Dragon Ball YouTubers then please feel free to say otherwise and explain why I'm so wrong.

If this is about your YouTube channel in particular, I'm afraid I don't know much about it. For the sake of fairness I took a look at your latest uploaded videos ( and I think a lot of those titles and thumbnails suggest the same type of behavior that I criticized before like spoilers, previews, putting red circles around some random image of an episode suggesting there's some hidden message on the video, top 5 lists, speculation videos, and so on...). I also clicked on some of your videos and quickly discovered that you monetize them. Even videos that use footage from the manga and anime. Honestly I feel you don't have the right to monetize said videos and collect YouTube revenue from them. Feel free to explain why you have the right to monetize all of your Dragon Ball related videos over say a channel like TeamFourStar, when they don't directly monetize their Abridged series.

Lastly in the videos where you post spoilers and clearly obtained your information from third parties like Herms or Kanzenshuu are you offering part of the revenue that you obtained from said videos to them? Did you try and offer it to them and they declined? Because from my understanding you would not be capable of collecting or translating some of the information that you show on your own. Unless you have some knowledge of the Japanese language that I don't know of.

If you do this simply because you are a fan of Dragon Ball, then I imagine you wouldn't have an issue if all of the sudden your content was no longer monetized, and you would keep doing what you do as an hobby. Right now I would imagine your YouTube Dragon Ball channel is your main source of income. Meaning unlike Kanzenshuu or Herms you don't just have a YouTube channel solely with the intent to spread accurate information and enrich the Dragon Ball community, and that you do this as a hobby.

Did I miss something about your channel and was I unfair in my review? Point me out to it and I'll take a look.

And by the way, I agree with you on SOME of the things you said because they are valid.

What are the things that I said that you agree with? You didn't mention them so I would not know.

But a lot of it just sounds like salt.

Salt for what? I merely stated my opinion, and you clearly don't like it, so am I really the one that is "salty" as you put it? My interest in this topic comes from the fact that I think Dragon Ball Youtubers for the most part are bad for the Dragon Ball community, and the fact that I don't like to have them suggested to me on YouTube just because I'm a Dragon Ball fan. Regardless of the popularity of YouTube and the wide audience that it reaches I feel that Dragon Ball YouTubers for the most part don't use YouTube in a positive way nor do they use it to provide quality or interesting information. Now that's a matter of perspective sure, what I find dumb might be something that someone else loves, but I'm ultimately still allowed to think that what they love is dumb.

Either way outside of the micro-cosmos of their channels where viewers take their word as gospel without analyzing it themselves, I believe that a lot of people share the same view that I have on Dragon Ball YouTubers, and I came to this thread with the intention of discussing their negative influence and my negative views on them. That's my personal opinion like I said. Feel free to reply, I don't come to the forum often enough but I'd be happy to have a discussion with you on the matter, and if you can show me that I'm wrong I don't have any issue in admitting it contrary to what you might think.

Cheers.

[Geekdom101]

Okay I made my stance about Geekdom and the "leaked" episode titles clear on the other thread so not bringing that up again here but what I have to say has been bothering me for sometime and has culminated the past few weeks with all the apology videos he has done (again credit for doing that but you shouldn't be in the position to need to do that), and that is Geekdom's episode reviews.

We now have a simulcast that goes up in an hour with legit good subtitles, so I don't know why he doesn't wait until then. He does it for his NEP breakdowns waits a day (which are by far my favourite of his videos) but why not his episode reviews, subtitles give you actual context of what is going on there is so much more interesting discussions he could have when watching the episode subbed instead of relying on choice tweets by xyz. I can totally understand pre-simulcast when we would have to wait days but now barely an hour! I spoke to him back then about another ep review when DragonTeam upload their subs but he said their wouldn't be much interest in a second review which I guess is fair enough but now I feel like there is no need to do an ep review based of a raw broadcast with some choice tweets.

Just some constructive criticism.

I guess being the first video out = most views?

If that's the case, UnrealENTGaming would destroy everybody in views.

And he doesn't.

I rushed my review that night because I had personal problems and I didn't do it this week. By the way, this GREEDY YOUTUBER WHO ONLY WANTS MONIEZ demonetized that video AND apologized for it.


I suggest people on this board stop making assumptions about things they don't know about. Seriously.

[DemonSenpai]

And i Believe Forum Conspiracys And Forum Commentators Are Stupid And Should Know They Place All They Want to Do is Whine About DB This And DB That And Talk About us "Youtubers".

AS if we have no say just as forum users do cmon bro do you really expect someone to scroll down pages and pages of useless annoying content of rants , discussions, irrelevant pages and false leaks false information on subjects

We dont care about the franchise and we all do it for money give me a 40 page essay summarizing the whole DB Franchise "While your still typing" in a Day Exactly one Day 24 hours when i can do 10 videos of all aspects on the DB franchise and i still would be More Informational then any Bullshit ass typo you make dont "RANT" on Youtubers and say that its a brief "opinion" when your fucking opinion doesnt matter So why State it?

Just like you guys supposively haul ass on this forum we do on Youtube We handle Twitter and other social media also and we also handle commentators like you that are irrelevant to our youtube channel but we still deal with you regardless we do it for views you tell me if your a succesful youtuber who has a built house s and everything they need to support their life just by doing something they love RELEASING IMPORTANT INFORMATION Videos Gaming Videos Podcasts Discussions Livestreams and more

You tell me if you had 100,000 subscribers getting at you for releasing videos that will give them more information then going to a forum i feel like you speaking like this because you need more people on this forum then on a youtuber page?

bro the cyber door is right there for you all you gotta do is throw that opinion to the trash like everything else and get to some real information The Fact That The Youtuber "Geekdom101" is taking his time away from his subscribers that would have a nervous meltdown if he didnt upoad for one fucking day which is ridiculous is responding to your hypocrisy of a opinion is amazing cause i rather give more time to a doorknob then your comments but

the fact that he is and is trying to make you understand the youtuber aspect point of view makes you a nuisance cause you can give less the one single fuck of what he is saying and yet he is still here argueing cause what oh wait cause you dont understand why we release videos its just for some "Views"?

got tell that to the 20,000 other youtubers who dont get enough "Views And Pay" and still upload more informational videos then a forum worth of 100 pages or more of pure fandom bullshit then release a video with guranteed information and news and not fake ass leaks about db super and expectations and i want this and that like i said again cmon bro