There is also that scene of Cooler escaping Hell, i think thats the proof that GT is non-canon, like the 17 pre-BoG movies...Cipher wrote:Don't let title semantics get in the way. Resurrection "F" is also a "Z" movie, and it runs roughshod over the way the anime series presented Hell.Kuririn Fan wrote:Beerus was introduced in Dragon Ball Z movie and that means GT cant fit with original DB-DBZ anime canon, it is its own little thing, little spin-off, side story, like the 17 pre-BoG movies...
The original three anime series do form a tidy package together. The new material is exactly that -- new material, written to align with the manga and, in Super's case, possibly Kai, whose timeslot it inherited, though that's icing.
That doesn't mean that Z has to lead into GT though, just as it doesn't have to lead into Battle of Gods. They're all just different projects, produced at different times, each built to reference and incorporate different pre-existing material. While some pair together more seamlessly than others, how you want to view them is up to you.
Anyone consider or want GT as canon?
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GT won't be in the new timeline (I'll say rather than "canon") because it most likely won't be referenced outside of it just being video game content for what-ifs. The divergence in continuity just with the god form line breaks it entirely.
Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.
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Am I the only one who notice some characters looking similar to one another? Why do Chi Chi and Videl look like sisters? As a kid, I had trouble telling Gohan and Goten apart.
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Yes, they did look very very similar, though I liked his hair. It was actually original making him finally separate from Goku.DBZfan2015 wrote: I also had trouble telling Gohan and Goten apart.
Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.
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EoZ Goten was much better...SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:Yes, they did look very very similar, though I liked his hair. It was actually original making him finally separate from Goku.DBZfan2015 wrote: I also had trouble telling Gohan and Goten apart.
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Eh, half a dozen of one and six of the other. Both distinguished Goten from his father. At least we got to see him go Super Saiyan in GT!Kuririn Fan wrote:EoZ Goten was much better...SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:Yes, they did look very very similar, though I liked his hair. It was actually original making him finally separate from Goku.DBZfan2015 wrote: I also had trouble telling Gohan and Goten apart.