Lord Beerus wrote:ekrolo2 wrote:Lord Beerus wrote:Hit vs Jiren was excellent. Even though we knew the forgone conclusion, the battle was incredible tense. And really emphasised how much Hit's character has evolved since the Champa arc. He was not the kind of person to give orders but did so anyways to look out for the well being of his team and ensure the Universe 6 would survive. And also taking the gamble of putting everything on the line to defeat Jiren, instead of taking the more safe and pragmatic option, even noting how it was very un-assassin like, was a very nice touch. It explored Hit's characterisation in a very subtle but meaningful fashion. In extreme circumstances, Hit will act out of the ordinary and abandon his pride as an assassin. I enjoyed that Hit went out giving everything he had, even though Jiren made a mockery of him in the process of trying to deliver what would have been the final strike while Jiren was frozen. It was still a good sendoff.
Jiren... is a fucking monster. He is what Bill Goldberg was to WCW and what Brock Lesnar was to WWE. Just a freak of nature with a abnormal amount of strength. He is a literal hype machine. And I love that. I mean, not only can Jiren produce an attack from his eyes that can damage Hit, but he can produce a force-field while meditating and his power transcending time itself?! Good God. I also love how Jiren is so confident in himself that after fighting Hit and Ultra Instinct Goku, he feels there is no one who can challenge him and just take a breather. That dude is so alpha male it's crazy.
Wow, I really thought you'd dislike it too. The Hit vs Jiren fight starts out good but the second Hit's "plan" goes into effect it all falls apart. Not to mention it's really annoying how Time Skip just keeps having powers and abilities because the plot needs it to.
I liked the fight because Hit felt confident in being able to restrain Jiren for long enough until the tournament ended. I mean, even after seeing what Jiren did to Goku, Hit still had the resolve and belief that his new and improved Time-Skip could make the difference. I like that kind of self-confidence and belief in characters.
And it seemed as though that Hit was under the impression that even if Jiren was immobilised by his Time Skip/Freeze attack, and other characters tried to attack him, Jiren will still no sell it. And he had a point. Because we later see that Jiren put up a barrier to protect himself from Hit's attack when he wanted to finish off Jiren while he couldn't move that much and even when he was meditating and seemed available for sneak attack, he just had a barrier to protect himself and knock away opponents. Plus, martial arts pride and all that. You know. It's a Dragon Ball thing, given it
is a martial arts show.
I'm not bothered at all with Hit's Time Skip abilities evolving the way they did. We see during the Champa arc, that Hit can make sudden adjustments to how his Time-Skip operate to adapt to how the fight might be progressing, especially if it's not in his favour. And given how his rematch with Goku went it wouldn't be out of the ordinary if Hit decided to make more changes to how his Time-Skip would work so that it could be versatile in combat should he come across a fighter as strong, or even stronger, than Goku in his Super Saiyan Blue form. Hit just have the unfortunate luck of pitting his new abilities on a opponent who's brute strength could overcome what the Time-Skip could dish out. We see that happen with Goku stacking Kaioken on top of Super Saiyan Blue and in their second bout (Episode 72), so the concept of an opponent overpowering Hit's Time-Skip ability certainly has some credence and isn't out of the ordinary.
The problem is that the episode touts itself as showing some development for Hit where he believes in shit and other people but what he does doesn't match up with this at all.
Hit is actually an idiot of he thinks neither Toppo nor Dypso or both of them won't attack him to free Jiren on the off chance he can actually hold him down for a long period of time. He has nobody to guard him or anything, he's the epitome of a sitting duck. It's all the more aggregious since the U6 Saiyan's specifically offer to help him out and he doesn't even tell them "watch my back while I hold him off!".
I don't even mean have the U6 Saiyan's attack Jiren directly, just break the fucking stage underneath him to ring him out. It's not like weak people haven't been able to do that yet. The whole warrior pride angle doesn't even make sense as the entire tournament has people constantly jump in to help one another out. Vegeta helps out Goku, Roshi,... Goku & Vegeta help out everyone else during the sniper episode, Krillin helps out 18, Kale helps out Caulifla, Goku helps Hit, Hit helps Bergamo take out a guy at the very start ouf the tournament, Toppo & Dypso try to take out UI Goku despite him and Jiren not being done,... It all feels so fucking contrived.
I'm not against Hit being overpowered, I just dislike how his Time Skip can apparently do whatever the hell the plot needs it to. Especially since it retroactively makes no sense, why are there no phantom Hit's in the U6 tournament? Or him trying to freeze Goku to take him out as he does to Jiren? Remember, U6 already implies Hit has a wider variety of abilities he can't use for fear of killing someone but besides his ranged attack, literally none of them are inherently lethal.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
. Oh well as nice idea while it lasted.
,I also like Jiren in this episode,he was pretty cool.
that Hit got ringed out,he did a lot of cool stuff in the TOP and i liked how Champa complemented Hit.
