Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[Hawk9211]

Could not a namekian special/film work better than saiyan one asiide from popularity.They made the dragon balls,they used to have quite advanced tech and their near extinction due to climate changes sounds ridicolous considering they have dragon balls and they themselves have a lot of mystical abilities.However,it appears that they don't care about nameks.
A movie featuring excluded universes sounds good.

I'm not really worried about quality but saturation as we've gotten a lot of saiyan content since the franchise revival.

The namakian story sounds interesting but I think they're just going after what's really popular.

I know they are not going to make namekian movie,I was just thinking theoretically it could be more interesting.
However,they can always do a movie featuring exluded universes after all top is going till march,after that we will have a few filler episodes and most likely planet salad/U6 arc.

[sangofe]

Though if this is just a lore movie about Yamoshi I'll be skipping it.

I'd rather a lore movie of something we've never seen before than something inconsequential.

I sure hope it's about Yamoshi.

[Michsi]

Because of Nappa and Radditz. And if he didn't correct the others it means their designs were congruent with his idea of the saiyan image. Saying it doesn't count because their outline didn't come 100% from his own pen nib is a little fastidious if you ask me.

Which is two out of the four Saiyans designs Toriyama made, including Goku. Just because he okay it doesn't mean that is how he personally envision the characters. He sees stuff like movies and special as separate from his own stuff.

All four saiyans have designs that is congruent with the wild, ferocious type, and we can point out Celipa's and Vegeta's smaller frame all we want, they still fit into that category very nicely. If he put the effort in to adjust the designs for the OVA (when he specifically said that he barely had time because of his own work) means he cares about stylistic consistency. Again, trying to render his involvement in shaping the look of Bardock's crew as irrelevant seems wrong.

Do you also think Beerus isn't a Toriyama character because the initial concept came from Toei?

[Basaku]

Not a bad idea for a movie, certinately better trying to insert some "Super" arc into theatrical film and then deal with its events (or lack of them) within the series.

But I'm obviously concerned with going back to Saiyan lore with modern Toriyama... I mean, what will stop him from retconning the entire race into kawaii stick-figure saints lol?

[JazzMazz]

Could not a namekian special/film work better than saiyan one asiide from popularity.They made the dragon balls,they used to have quite advanced tech and their near extinction due to climate changes sounds ridicolous considering they have dragon balls and they themselves have a lot of mystical abilities.However,it appears that they don't care about nameks.
A movie featuring excluded universes sounds good.

I'm not really worried about quality but saturation as we've gotten a lot of saiyan content since the franchise revival.

The namakian story sounds interesting but I think they're just going after what's really popular.

Hit is a great character to expand on. Is he alone or a part of a group of assassin's ? Does each universe have a version of them ? Is he an underling to some master assassin who he answers to ?

I would rather he was simply a lone assassin that answered to no one but himself. Basically, I see Hit as being the Duke Togo of Dragonball. I think him answering to someone else would just kind of diminish Hits character in stature unnecesarily.

[HeroR]

All four saiyans have designs that is congruent with the wild, ferocious type, and we can point out Celipa's and Vegeta's smaller frame all we want, they still fit into that category very nicely. If he put the effort in to adjust the designs for the OVA (when he specifically said that he barely had time because of his own work) means he cares about stylistic consistency. Again, trying to render his involvement in shaping the look of Bardock's crew as irrelevant seems wrong.

Do you also think Beerus isn't a Toriyama character because the initial concept came from Toei?

Except Toriyama threw away Toei's original design for Beerus, including his origin story. The only thing kept was God of Destruction.

Vegeta nor Goku were not created with 'wild, ferocious type'. Goku was just an adult version of his kid self and Vegeta was purposed made smaller and skinner to Nappa and Raditz. And honestly, neither Vegeta nor Celipa fist this 'wild, ferocious type'.

Not a bad idea for a movie, certinately better trying to insert some "Super" arc into theatrical film and then deal with its events (or lack of them) within the series.

But I'm obviously concerned with going back to Saiyan lore with modern Toriyama... I mean, what will stop him from retconning the entire race into kawaii stick-figure saints lol?

Toriyama had stated several times recently and over the years that the Saiyans were a race of assholes outside of a few exceptions. Even Minus Bardock that fans like to say is 'too good' has him slaughtering people on the first page with a huge grin on his face.

If anything, Toei was the one who tried to whitewash the Saiyans by saying Beerus corrupted them.

The rest is issues you have with Toriyama current art style.

[Bebi Hatchiyack]

Movie about Yamoshi incoming then ♥

[Michsi]

Except Toriyama threw away Toei's original design for Beerus, including his origin story. The only thing kept was God of Destruction.

Vegeta nor Goku were not created with 'wild, ferocious type'. Goku was just an adult version of his kid self and Vegeta was purposed made smaller and skinner to Nappa and Raditz. And honestly, neither Vegeta nor Celipa fist this 'wild, ferocious type'.

Then we have different estimate of what "wild, ferocious type" means because I add demeanor in that equation too. Toriyama's Celipa looks exactly like what I imagined a saiyan woman to look like, original Toei's version doesn't.

I stand by my opinion, saiyans had a specific visual brand that was solidified by Toriyama himself back in the day. That he changed his vision of them is something I acknowledged, but it's very clear from where I stand that their initial rugged and imposing character type was his doing first and foremost.

I also kid Goku could very well fit into 'rough and feral' .

[Gt91]

Yes! This is a great chance to show yamoshi and his legend. New ssj, and maybe a new ssgod?

[HeroR]

Then we have different estimate of what "wild, ferocious type" means because I add demeanor in that equation too. Toriyama's Celipa looks exactly like what I imagined a saiyan woman to look like, original Toei's version doesn't.

I stand by my opinion, saiyans had a specific visual brand that was solidified by Toriyama himself back in the day. That he changed his vision of them is something I acknowledged, but it's very clear from where I stand that their initial rugged and imposing character type was his doing first and foremost.

I also kid Goku could very well fit into 'rough and feral' .

Even a skinny can have a "wild, ferocious" demeanor and we're talking about body type.

Kid Goku was cute and small, not 'rough and feral'. Krillin as a kid had a similar body type to Kid Goku.

[majinwarman]

Yes! This is a great chance to show yamoshi and his legend. New ssj, and maybe a new ssgod?

I agree with you.

[majinwarman]

I love how we are getting a new movie but I still have concerns about how this affect Super's production. We are at a great place right now and I don't want to drop because of this movie.

[Lionel]

I'm part of the demographics of fans who isn't all too keen about the subject matter of the film. An historical recount of the Saiyans on paper sounds interesting, but with the amount of transforming-related proliferation that's been going on lately, not to mention Universe 6's Saiyan society being given more nods of recognition for a potential future unveiling, it's become desensitising to watch at times. I never really watched the previous two movies. With the nugget of information given out to us, I'm going to have to pass on this as well.

[sintzu]

New ssj, and maybe a new ssgod?

We don't need more forms although we'll probably get one.

I'm concerned with going back to Saiyan lore with modern Toriyama... I mean, what will stop him from retconning the entire race into kawaii stick-figure saints lol?

Nothing. If there's one thing I'm worried about from a story point of view is him changing too much of what we know.

[Michsi]

Then we have different estimate of what "wild, ferocious type" means because I add demeanor in that equation too. Toriyama's Celipa looks exactly like what I imagined a saiyan woman to look like, original Toei's version doesn't.

I stand by my opinion, saiyans had a specific visual brand that was solidified by Toriyama himself back in the day. That he changed his vision of them is something I acknowledged, but it's very clear from where I stand that their initial rugged and imposing character type was his doing first and foremost.

I also kid Goku could very well fit into 'rough and feral' .

Even a skinny can have a "wild, ferocious" demeanor and we're talking about body type.

Kid Goku was cute and small, not 'rough and feral'. Krillin as a kid had a similar body type to Kid Goku.

And again it shows we have different definitions for certain term. When I says "design" or "type" I use them in the sense a character designer would, and that's where I am coming from. "Body type" is only a fraction of character design. Demeanor and attitude can be conveyed very effectively through aesthetic alone. My statement of "rugged-looking cavemen vs salary-men" was obviously supposed to encompass the difference in overall representation not just tall and bulky vs. short and skinny.

I'm part of the demographics of fans who isn't all too keen about the subject matter of the film. An historical recount of the Saiyans on paper sounds interesting, but with the amount of transforming-related proliferation that's been going on lately, not to mention Universe 6's Saiyan society being given more nods of recognition for a potential future unveiling, it's become desensitising to watch at times. I never really watched the previous two movies. With the nugget of information given out to us, I'm going to have to pass on this as well.

There is a chance, albeit a small one, that namekians will be mentioned in one form or another too since they were also mentioned in Toriyama's saiyan info-dump a few weeks back.

[MR.Mark]

A movie where at least a good chunk doesn't revolve around Goku and co? HELL YEAH!! This sounds cool!

I think this is how they should do films at least while Super is around. The films can be lore building side stories while the anime is the main story.

Jaco movie also please.

[sintzu]

A movie where at least a good chunk doesn't revolve around Goku and co? HELL YEAH!! This sounds cool!

This was never said anywhere nor will it ever happen.

[Grimlock]

The films can be lore building side stories while the anime is the main story.

Considering the anime is all Toei's version of things and it has filler content, that's an extremely hard way to put it.

[MR.Mark]

A movie where at least a good chunk doesn't revolve around Goku and co? HELL YEAH!! This sounds cool!

This was never said anywhere nor will it ever happen.

So will Goku and the others travel in time to be amongst all these Saiyan origins?

Considering the anime is all Toei's version of things and it has filler content, that's an extremely hard way to put it.

Why? it still follows Toriyama's outline, as will this film.

[Kanassa]

A movie where at least a good chunk doesn't revolve around Goku and co? HELL YEAH!! This sounds cool!

This was never said anywhere nor will it ever happen.

So will Goku and the others travel in time to be amongst all these Saiyan origins?

Or the villain of the movie will be connected to the Origin story of the Saiyans. Maybe he was around during that time, or maybe he's a character who was inspired by said stories. Seriously, Time Travel is pretty low on the list of possibilities.