SSj Kaboom wrote:Mario failed because, first off, it is something so extraordinarily out there that it shouldn't have even tried to be made into a movie.
Dragon Ball actually has a plot, though.SonEric84 wrote:SSj Kaboom wrote:Mario failed because, first off, it is something so extraordinarily out there that it shouldn't have even tried to be made into a movie.
That's exactly how I feel about Dragon Ball. The animation, the hair, the over the top fighting scenes, the weird aliens, there's just no way it can translate well to real life.
Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:Dragon Ball actually has a plot, though.SonEric84 wrote:SSj Kaboom wrote:Mario failed because, first off, it is something so extraordinarily out there that it shouldn't have even tried to be made into a movie.
That's exactly how I feel about Dragon Ball. The animation, the hair, the over the top fighting scenes, the weird aliens, there's just no way it can translate well to real life.
True. But really, with good makeup, and willingness to part with the little unnecessary details that don't work (like, again, animal-people, and things like the exact or proportions of hair, and the like) there's not much in DragonBall that can't translate into live-action. Really, it's just Star Wars with martial arts.Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:Dragon Ball actually has a plot, though.SonEric84 wrote:That's exactly how I feel about Dragon Ball. The animation, the hair, the over the top fighting scenes, the weird aliens, there's just no way it can translate well to real life.SSj Kaboom wrote:Mario failed because, first off, it is something so extraordinarily out there that it shouldn't have even tried to be made into a movie.
Like what? Are you talking special effects, or things that might not look believable? Or do you mean events or plot points? Off the top of my head...SonEric84 wrote:True, but the all the things that make up big parts of the plot don't work well with real life.
SSj Kaboom wrote:True. But really, with good makeup, and willingness to part with the little unnecessary details that don't work (like, again, animal-people, and things like the exact or proportions of hair, and the like) there's not much in DragonBall that can't translate into live-action. Really, it's just Star Wars with martial arts.Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:Dragon Ball actually has a plot, though.SonEric84 wrote: That's exactly how I feel about Dragon Ball. The animation, the hair, the over the top fighting scenes, the weird aliens, there's just no way it can translate well to real life.
Like what? Are you talking special effects, or things that might not look believable? Or do you mean events or plot points? Off the top of my head...SonEric84 wrote:True, but the all the things that make up big parts of the plot don't work well with real life.
Shenlong isn't hard to do. Though it sucked as a movie, the recent Dragon Wars featured one skyfaring, big sucker that looked almost exactly like him (and is being used a lot for fake DB posters and trailers), and he looked good enough to make you believe he was right there next to the actors.
Piccolo isn't any harder to create with makeup than Quark or Darth Maul. Nor is Freeza any more unbelievable in appearance than Jar Jar Binks. Super Saiyan hair can be done with CGI effects.
Granted, there might be some slight aesthetic changes, just for it to be taken seriously. For example, I wouldn't be surprised if the pink portions of Piccolo's arms end up removed or a slightly different color, or if Freeza were... well, clothed. But little visual changes don't affect the story, and serve only to make the appearance of the movie more attractive.
) That's just how I feel. And personally, I hate most CGI effects, to me most of those super hero movies and such just look retarded.I agree, but I'd like to point again to my "Z Prequel" impressions. As a stand-alone movie, DB would be better off as a fantasy, and I'd love to see it. But DragonBall Z turned into "kung fu in space," and this movie seems to just be setting that up from the get-go.JulieYBM wrote:Well, the problem I have is that they removed the story from the fantasy world and that sort of makes things less special.
In the live action Transformers movie, the Transformers were given a more alien-robotic appearance, which helped sell the fact that these were extra-terrestrial robotic life forms, but they still bared some resemblance to the original designs, Optimus Prime for instance was still recognizable.SSj Kaboom wrote:But little visual changes don't affect the story, and serve only to make the appearance of the movie more attractive.
We have people trying to defend the Street Fighter movie? That movie blows. its not so bad its good, its so bad its bad. The thing was there was no excuse for it to be bad. It had Jean Claude Van Damm in it. Van Damm had starred in Bloodsport. A movie about an underground fighting tourney. Add fireballs and thats Street Fighter. But they managed to make an awful movie. That poor Raul Julia had to carry to his grave.Both movies, actually, were examples of the "so bad, it's good" genre, for a lot of people. But since optimism and enjoyment don't seem to be your cup o' tea, then no, they failed for completely different and valid reasons. Let me tell you why.
Bowser was king of the Koopa Kingdom. He was at war with the Mushroom Kingdom. In the war he kidnapped Princess Peach. Its up to two unlikely heroes to save the day. Its not exactly rocket science."Bowser, a giant, anthropomorphic turtle-like beast repeatedly kidnaps a princess for undetermined reasons, requiring her rescue by Mario and Mama Luigi, a pair of colorful overall-clad plumbers, who fight by jumping insane heights to stomp on the heads of Bowser's mushroom and turtle minions, eating mushrooms that either give them fire powers or double them in size, and riding around on a green, misproportioned dinosaur with a tongue that would put a Lickylicky to shame."
Yeah thats going to be nothing like this movie. With its a list cast. The korean girl from Real orld SanDiego is box office gold.Street Fighter failed because although the source material was very cool, the movie was just plain badly done. The cast was full of B-list actors,
Titantic blows but you knew that wasnt the point. If this movie makes back its budget during its domestic run it will be a miracle.Says you. Titanic wasn't that great, either. "Hey, we're going to die, but at least we got a good amount of hedonism and adultry in beforehand, eh?"
No, they're just putting Goku in high school (there's a difference), and from what we know, he does very badly in all aspects of it. "You can take Goku out of the mountains, but you can't take the mountains out of Goku." I admit it's a weird choice, but it's not a fatal one.Victator Supreme wrote: They are making Goku an average high school kid. When you fuck up the main character there is nowhere to go but down. Goku being a unsophisticated hick is a central part of his character.
He looks about as close to a real-world version of Goku as you could fairly expect anyone too. Big forehead. Spiky, unruly, large hair. Innocent but determined eyes.Not to mention the actor looks nothing like him. The poster looks like the adventures of Christopher Walken as a boy.
I beg to differ.There is no way you can look at that poster and not think this thing is not going to fail on every level.
Goku in high school is not Goku. Once he goes into school with other regular people that changes the character.No, they're just putting Goku in high school (there's a difference), and from what we know, he does very badly in all aspects of it. "You can take Goku out of the mountains, but you can't take the mountains out of Goku." I admit it's a weird choice, but it's not a fatal one.
He looks nothing like a real life Goku would. The extra in the kame gi looked more like Goku than kid Walken.He looks about as close to a real-world version of Goku as you could fairly expect anyone too. Big forehead. Spiky, unruly, large hair. Innocent but determined eyes.
He wore blue gi his grandpa gave him, then turtle gi, then a tuxedo, then Shuu's gi, then animal hide, then his turtle gi again, then those Chinese-looking clothes after training with Kami, then his turtle gi again, then Yardrat garbs, and finally, when he was in his thirties, he put on that checkered shirt Chichi made him wear to get his driver's license. Let me remind you, Piccolo wore "normal" clothes in that episode, too. . . and yet, I doubt Piccolo's going to sport a backwards ball-cap for the first half of the flick. Then he had the jacket getup when he was waiting for the Cell games, which I think is anime-only too, but I don't really know, since I've never read past the early Android stuff until the later Buu saga in the manga.SSj Kaboom wrote:The t-shirt we've been seeing him in are his civvies, and Goku DID wear regular clothes every now and then.
He doesn't look like he has any emotion, frankly.SSj Kaboom wrote:Typically, action heroes don't smile on posters. They're usually either scowling, or giving some sort of intrigued, perplexed look. We've seen Chatwin doing both.
Yeah, and that's the point, isn't it? He never met anyone, besides Gohan, until he met Bulma. That's why Goku is who Goku is.Rocketman wrote:Didn't that happen in the first chapter of the manga?djkalteraphine wrote:But, as has been said, you take Goku out of the mountains and around people besides his deceased grandpa...
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