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Post by jeffbr92 » Thu May 04, 2017 1:01 pm

I always wished to Dragon Ball grown along with its fan base and had a more mature, deep and complex (but still with humor) story after the end of Z
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Post by ABED » Thu May 04, 2017 1:21 pm

jeffbr92 wrote:I always wished to Dragon Ball grown along with its fan base and had a more mature, deep and complex (but still with humor) story after the end of Z
For instance?
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Post by jeffbr92 » Thu May 04, 2017 1:49 pm

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jeffbr92 wrote:I always wished to Dragon Ball grown along with its fan base and had a more mature, deep and complex (but still with humor) story after the end of Z
For instance?
Beerus and Whis being serious figures not always being bribed with food. More development to Beerus and a deep meaning for his job as a destroyer, he is an interesting character when he is serious and commited with his stuff.

More world building on planets around our universe and the other 11 and its Gods, more explanation about the usage of Ki and techniques, have characters learning with their flaws and show their progression over the course of the story.

Goku can still be the battle maniac that he always was, but the show should not pretend that he always a dumb guy that thinks about fighting 24/7. Have him being more serious and concerned about his actions to people he care about. Vegeta can still see Goku was a motivation for he to train and get stronger, but he doesn't need to be grumpy all the time always despising the idea of co-op with Goku or fusing with him. You can still have him being the same personality but yet calmer for his days living in peace on Earth. Gohan can still be stronger or the strongest but that only gets envolved in battles when he's really needed to, no bullcrap that his Saiyan blood suddenly make he being excited about fights or anything.

I could talk about more characters but I will keep with these and of course have a coerent story, you don't need to have everyone stronger or at the same level to have an interesting story, consistency is what make people take the story seriously.
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Post by Bansho64 » Thu May 04, 2017 2:01 pm

Does anyone else here get reminded of Peter Parker whenever they look at Gohan and how he acts. Specifically, his teen and young adult years. I was watching this scene earlier, and I thought about how I could see Gohan acting that way too. They're both pretty similar.

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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Thu May 04, 2017 2:26 pm

Bansho64 wrote:Does anyone else here get reminded of Peter Parker whenever they look at Gohan and how he acts. Specifically, his teen and young adult years. I was watching this scene earlier, and I thought about how I could see Gohan acting that way too. They're both pretty similar.
Yeah, he reminds me a lot of Peter, except he's a lot stronger and his girlfriend/wife can fight.
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Post by ABED » Thu May 04, 2017 2:32 pm

Yes on Beerus, no on world building. The world building in DB is fine in terms of its complexity. With world building, it's best to KISS - Keep it simple stupid. I still think Beerus is interesting when he's funny and mature and adult doesn't exclude funny and lighthearted.
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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Thu May 04, 2017 3:13 pm

ABED wrote:Yes on Beerus, no on world building. The world building in DB is fine in terms of its complexity. With world building, it's best to KISS - Keep it simple stupid. I still think Beerus is interesting when he's funny and mature and adult doesn't exclude funny and lighthearted.
Is anyone even demanding for more complexity in DB's world building?
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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Thu May 04, 2017 3:25 pm

8000 Saiyan wrote: Is anyone even demanding for more complexity in DB's world building?
I don't think they are demanding complexity but rather they want more quantity of world building.
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Post by ABED » Thu May 04, 2017 3:31 pm

Semantics. Regardless, I don't care about how ki works. It's gobbledygook anyway. I don't care to have more world building beyond what's important to the story.
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Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Thu May 04, 2017 6:53 pm

1) If Goku Black had the same life as Bruce Wayne, would he be the perfect Batman?

2) Would people from Great Britain mistake Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black as British?

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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Thu May 04, 2017 7:24 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) If Goku Black had the same life as Bruce Wayne, would he be the perfect Batman?

2) Would people from Great Britain mistake Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black as British?
1) He would be a very murderous Batman.
2) He keeps his british accent, then yes.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu May 04, 2017 9:23 pm

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:He keeps his british accent, then yes.
I don't think so. He doesn't actually sound British, he just sounds like a poor, overly posh imitation.
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Post by Cipher » Thu May 04, 2017 9:30 pm

I'm pretty disappointed by the tenor of some of the conversations surrounding the new female Saiyan(s), but none of it's at a level that validates reporting.

I wish for the image of the community that this board had an "I'd really rather we didn't" button.

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Post by Soppa Saia People » Fri May 05, 2017 2:15 am

Cipher wrote:I'm pretty disappointed by the tenor of some of the conversations surrounding the new female Saiyan(s), but none of it's at a level that validates reporting.

I wish for the image of the community that this board had an "I'd really rather we didn't" button.
Yeah, that'd be nice, a lot of posts are "Hey, come on guys, let's be mature about this", rather than, "this is real bad and the mods need to step in".

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri May 05, 2017 12:31 pm

Cipher wrote:I'm pretty disappointed by the tenor of some of the conversations surrounding the new female Saiyan(s), but none of it's at a level that validates reporting.

I wish for the image of the community that this board had an "I'd really rather we didn't" button.
Yeah I did a see comment a few days ago where someone said they wanted to give the female Saiyan their meat or something like that... /:
I am actually trying a new tactic where I am trying to avoid reading the big Super thread when big news drops, that way when things settle the conversations hopefully will too, like recently there was a good thread talking about Ikari and there was no rebuff comments like it is stoopid etc

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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Fri May 05, 2017 3:08 pm

I was reading the fanmanga Dragon Ball Multiverse and something came to my mind, Does either the manga or the anime ever give an explanation as to why Ginyu never tried changing bodies with Freeza?
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Fri May 05, 2017 3:23 pm

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:I was reading the fanmanga Dragon Ball Multiverse and something came to my mind, Does either the manga or the anime ever give an explanation as to why Ginyu never tried changing bodies with Freeza?
It didn't need to. Ginyu was intensely loyal to his master, it wouldn't make sense if he had tried to switch bodies.
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Post by jeffbr92 » Fri May 05, 2017 7:41 pm

Cipher wrote:I'm pretty disappointed by the tenor of some of the conversations surrounding the new female Saiyan(s), but none of it's at a level that validates reporting.

I wish for the image of the community that this board had an "I'd really rather we didn't" button.
Sexist much?
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Fri May 05, 2017 8:35 pm

jeffbr92 wrote:
Cipher wrote:I'm pretty disappointed by the tenor of some of the conversations surrounding the new female Saiyan(s), but none of it's at a level that validates reporting.

I wish for the image of the community that this board had an "I'd really rather we didn't" button.
Sexist much?
What's sexist about this?
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