The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:09 pm

Kibito Kai vs Super Perfect Cell

Dai Kaioshin vs Super Perfect Cell

Potara Fusion South Kaioshin and Dai Kaioshin vs Kid Buu

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:47 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Yusuke (pre-revival) vs. Videl or Mr. Satan (prime)

Yusuke (Dark Tournament; Pre-Genkai power boost) vs. Goku (23rd Budokai; Weighted)

Yusuke (Post-Genkai power boost) vs. Goku (23rd Budokai; Unweighted @Tenshinhan)
- Yusuke kicks Videl and Mr Satan ass effortlessly
- I'd give this to Goku. But it's quite a close battle.
- Yusuke wins.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:47 pm

supercat wrote:Kibito Kai vs Super Perfect Cell

Dai Kaioshin vs Super Perfect Cell

Potara Fusion South Kaioshin and Dai Kaioshin vs Kid Buu
Super perfect cell kills kibito Kai. If he was that strong or near that strength. He could have helped goku and vegeta against kid buu

Dai kaioshin was able to hurt mega buu. But it wasn't hat big of a deal. But Idk. Possibly he was as strong as him. Can go either way.

And they prob be evenly matched. But if kid buu absorbs both of him. He will be pretty Damn strong.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:51 pm

Torkio (current) + Yusuke (end of the series) vs Namek saga goku (after recovering in the chamber)?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:54 pm

supercat wrote:Kibito Kai vs Super Perfect Cell

Dai Kaioshin vs Super Perfect Cell

Potara Fusion South Kaioshin and Dai Kaioshin vs Kid Buu
- Kibito Kai takes this.
- I'd give this to Dai Kaioshin
- South Kaioshin/Dai Kaioshin potara fused stomp Kid Boo
Berserker1921 wrote:Torkio (current) + Yusuke (end of the series) vs Namek saga goku (after recovering in the chamber)?
Goku beats the both of them.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:22 am

I think anyone around Nappa level or higher could beat anyone from YYH. I remember their top tiers around Radditz level at best.
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Post by ZombieVito » Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:11 am

supercat wrote:Kibito Kai vs Super Perfect Cell

Dai Kaioshin vs Super Perfect Cell

Potara Fusion South Kaioshin and Dai Kaioshin vs Kid Buu
- Kibito Kai wins with difficulty.
- Cell one shots.
- The fusion wins very easily.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:07 am

Zombie wrote:
supercat wrote:Kibito Kai vs Super Perfect Cell

Dai Kaioshin vs Super Perfect Cell

Potara Fusion South Kaioshin and Dai Kaioshin vs Kid Buu
- Kibito Kai wins with difficulty.
- Cell one shots.
- The fusion wins very easily.
I always saw Kibito Kai somewhere around low to mid tiered SSJ2 level, so after a decent battle, I could definitely see him taking Cell down.

Wow, you really have Dai Kaioshin that weak?

Yes, the fusion likely destroys Kid Buu with ease. Keeping things in-universe, I wonder why it's never crossed their minds that they could leverage the earrings. My guess was that the Kaioshin were all extremely prideful, and a bit on the arrogant side (displayed by Eastern Kaioshin when he is first introduced), so utilizing the earrings for Potara Fusion was something they probably opted out of until it was too late. As far as not knowing about the Potara Fusion, I always assumed Eastern Kaioshin was the only one who was clueless.

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Post by ZombieVito » Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:17 am

supercat wrote:
Zombie wrote:
supercat wrote:Kibito Kai vs Super Perfect Cell

Dai Kaioshin vs Super Perfect Cell

Potara Fusion South Kaioshin and Dai Kaioshin vs Kid Buu
- Kibito Kai wins with difficulty.
- Cell one shots.
- The fusion wins very easily.
I always saw Kibito Kai somewhere around low to mid tiered SSJ2 level, so after a decent battle, I could definitely see him taking Cell down.

Wow, you really have Dai Kaioshin that weak?

Yes, the fusion likely destroys Kid Buu with ease. Keeping things in-universe, I wonder why it's never crossed their minds that they could leverage the earrings. My guess was that the Kaioshin were all extremely prideful, and a bit on the arrogant side (displayed by Eastern Kaioshin when he is first introduced), so utilizing the earrings for Potara Fusion was something they probably opted out of until it was too late. As far as not knowing about the Potara Fusion, I always assumed Eastern Kaioshin was the only one who was clueless.
Crap I did not see that "Super" in the first fight. Cell wins with difficulty unless Kibito Kai uses magic.

Yes. I have all Kai's weaker than SSJ2 Gohan.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:21 am

Berserker1921 wrote:
supercat wrote:Kibito Kai vs Super Perfect Cell

Dai Kaioshin vs Super Perfect Cell

Potara Fusion South Kaioshin and Dai Kaioshin vs Kid Buu
Super perfect cell kills kibito Kai. If he was that strong or near that strength. He could have helped goku and vegeta against kid buu

Dai kaioshin was able to hurt mega buu. But it wasn't hat big of a deal. But Idk. Possibly he was as strong as him. Can go either way.

And they prob be evenly matched. But if kid buu absorbs both of him. He will be pretty Damn strong.

Kibito Kai wasn't horrendously weak in my opinion. I could see him wielding a battle power comparable to a low-mid tiered SSJ2. I doubt he would go down to Super Perfect Cell. Kibito may have been pretty unimpressive in terms of battle power (most likely below Base Gohan), but I always felt Eastern Kaioshin was more or less around Cell Jr. tier prior to the Potara Fusion.

Dai Kaioshin is likely somewhat close to South Kaioshin in power, so I don't find it far-fetched for him to have the ability to wipe out Super Perfect Cell. While I have no real indication as to where they stand in power, it's hard to picture either of them under Super Perfect Cell.

The Potara Fusion would probably yield a decent multiplier for South Kaioshin and Dai Kaioshin. I don't know why, but I feel these two merging would far outclass the fusion of Kibito and Eastern Kaioshin. Assuming South Kaioshin and Dai Kaioshin are both above Super Perfect Cell (even if it's only by a little), with a decent multiplier, they would be able to trash Kid Buu.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:51 pm

Babidi vs. Lord Voldemort

Both are able to sense where the other is at all times.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:58 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Babidi vs. Lord Voldemort

Both are able to sense where the other is at all times.
He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named wins with ease.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:00 pm

Not a fan of using filler characters in these hypothetical versus since the outcome could be all over the place but...

Grand Kai (World Tournament Saga) vs Frieza Final Form 100% (before training)

Grand Kai (World Tournament Saga) vs Kibito

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:01 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Babidi vs. Lord Voldemort

Both are able to sense where the other is at all times.
I'm only familiar with the films (and it's been a long time since I last saw them), so... does anything stop Babidi from making a barrier to protect himself from outside attacks & then make Voldemort's head explode?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:05 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Babidi vs. Lord Voldemort

Both are able to sense where the other is at all times.

I'm having a hard time recollecting the specifics of Voldemort as it's been a long time since I've read the books, but can Babidi unleash Dabura or his band of Majins against him?

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:15 pm

Kibitoshin vs. ROF Freeza

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Freeza is his first form and can't transform
This is Freeza after four months of training

Who wins?
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Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:21 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Kibitoshin vs. ROF Freeza

Rules:

Freeza is his first form and can't transform
This is Freeza after four months of training

Who wins?
Freeza, Freeza, Freeza, Freeza!
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:25 pm

supercat wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Babidi vs. Lord Voldemort

Both are able to sense where the other is at all times.

I'm having a hard time recollecting the specifics of Voldemort as it's been a long time since I've read the books, but can Babidi unleash Dabura or his band of Majins against him?
No. This is one-on-one.
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Kamiccolo9 wrote:Babidi vs. Lord Voldemort

Both are able to sense where the other is at all times.
I'm only familiar with the films (and it's been a long time since I last saw them), so... does anything stop Babidi from making a barrier to protect himself from outside attacks & then make Voldemort's head explode?
It would depend on if Babidi's barrier would stop indirect attacks, like the Imperius or Cruciatus curses, or whether Babidi's barrier would be effective against non-ki attacks in general. Both of those are in question, as is whether Babidi's magic would be strong enough to break through any defensive spells that Voldemort would use.
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Post by supercat » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:26 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Kibitoshin vs. ROF Freeza

Rules:

Freeza is his first form and can't transform
This is Freeza after four months of training

Who wins?
Frieza is no longer one-shot material for this Kaioshin!

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:38 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Kibitoshin vs. ROF Freeza

Rules:

Freeza is his first form and can't transform
This is Freeza after four months of training

Who wins?
Freeza finger flicks him to space.

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