The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

[TheUltimateNinja]

What if Goku became a Super Saiyan when he was dropped on his head as a baby?

[YajirobiTheGreat]

What if the Supreme Kai, rather than having no knowledge of the Portera earrings, had a misconception of them as the Old Kai did, but the misconception he has is that the fusion only works on Gods and is temporary. After Dabura gets back up against Buu, the Supreme Kai takes a sensu bean (say Goku gave him the bad before fighting Vegeta), then gives Dabura an earring and after a tough conversation, the Supreme Kai convinces Dabura that a temporary fusion is their only option. The two of them unwittingly enter a permanent merger.

What happens next?

[YajirobiTheGreat]

What if Piccolo took a second year in the ROSAT and continued intense training for the next seven years? Could he have become strong enough to have been lumped in with Gohan/Goku/Vegeta rather than Krillin/Kabuto? And if accepted Goku's offer to train in the ROSAT with him for three years in Super, how strong would Piccolo be?

[dragonball0900]

What if Piccolo took a second year in the ROSAT and continued intense training for the next seven years? Could he have become strong enough to have been lumped in with Gohan/Goku/Vegeta rather than Krillin/Kabuto? And if accepted Goku's offer to train in the ROSAT with him for three years in Super, how strong would Piccolo be?

Let's see.

I have Vegeta and Trunks' boost to X2.4 after entering the ROSAT for the second time. I think the same would go to Piccolo. His power would still be below Cell Games Goku, but would've eventually surpass the Cell Jrs, Cell Games Vegeta and Cell Games Trunks.

If he does intense training (which I have a 1.5 multiplier for this gains, instead of the 1.4 one that I use for his original gains in the series), then chances are that he eventually surpasses Buu Saga SSJ Vegeta, but would still be below Buu Saga SSJ Goku. He'd manage to be more relevant, being just second in power behind Goku. However he'd still be below the SSJ2 versions of Gohan and Vegeta.

Considering what Dabura and Babidi sensed it's more of a magical sensing of power (to be honest, I previously thought it wasn't that way, but I changed my opinion) that manages to sense who has more potential, judging by the SSJ2's transformations, I'm not sure if Piccolo can still be considered in the same place as Gohan, Vegeta and Goku, because they have more potential with their SSJ2 transformations. I'm sure, however, that Babidi and Dabura might eventually let Piccolo alive this way. Piccolo might also be able to defeat Dabura (only if you think Gohan was SSJ1 against him).

I'm not an expert on Super, but I'd think Piccolo would eventually surpass the SSJ1 versions of Goku and Vegeta.

[TheUltimateNinja]

What if Piccolo took a second year in the ROSAT and continued intense training for the next seven years? Could he have become strong enough to have been lumped in with Gohan/Goku/Vegeta rather than Krillin/Kabuto? And if accepted Goku's offer to train in the ROSAT with him for three years in Super, how strong would Piccolo be?

Let's see.

I have Vegeta and Trunks' boost to X2.4 after entering the ROSAT for the second time. I think the same would go to Piccolo. His power would still be below Cell Games Goku, but would've eventually surpass the Cell Jrs, Cell Games Vegeta and Cell Games Trunks.

I disagree with this, Vegeta and Trunks still had a lot of untapped power because they used the wrong training methods the first time, they were able to make large gains in their second trip because they learned the right method from Goku. On the other hand Piccolo probably already unlocked most of his hidden power, hence he didn't go back in for a second round. I don't think Piccolo should get a big boost, it's like how Goku told Gohan they were already approaching their limits and if they spent more time in there they wouldn't power up much.

[dragonball0900]

What if Piccolo took a second year in the ROSAT and continued intense training for the next seven years? Could he have become strong enough to have been lumped in with Gohan/Goku/Vegeta rather than Krillin/Kabuto? And if accepted Goku's offer to train in the ROSAT with him for three years in Super, how strong would Piccolo be?

Let's see.

I have Vegeta and Trunks' boost to X2.4 after entering the ROSAT for the second time. I think the same would go to Piccolo. His power would still be below Cell Games Goku, but would've eventually surpass the Cell Jrs, Cell Games Vegeta and Cell Games Trunks.

I disagree with this, Vegeta and Trunks still had a lot of untapped power because they used the wrong training methods the first time, they were able to make large gains in their second trip because they learned the right method from Goku. On the other hand Piccolo probably already unlocked most of his hidden power, hence he didn't go back in for a second round. I don't think Piccolo should get a big boost, it's like how Goku told Gohan they were already approaching their limits and if they spent more time in there they wouldn't power up much.

Well then, if that's the case then I guess Piccolo after the second ROSAT would probably be as strong as his Buu saga self, and after intensive training, he would eventually surpass Supreme Kai but would still be below Buu Arc Gohan. That would mean that Piccolo has less chances to be grouped with Gohan, Goku and Vegeta's strong SSJ2 transformation. Although considering this Piccolo would surpass Supreme Kai, then I assume he might still be grouped in.

[GreatSaiyaman123]

What if Piccolo took a second year in the ROSAT and continued intense training for the next seven years? Could he have become strong enough to have been lumped in with Gohan/Goku/Vegeta rather than Krillin/Kabuto? And if accepted Goku's offer to train in the ROSAT with him for three years in Super, how strong would Piccolo be?

I think after training on the Rosat he'd be on pair with is Buu Saga self, who i have a bit stronger than the Cell Jrs. After the 7 years of intesive training, i put him above all SSJs and SSJ2 Gohan, but under SSJ2 Goku and Vegeta. He'd be choosen over Gohan and would totally shit on Dabura, but still trash to Buu.
About training with Goku i really don't know. I think he would be much stronger than Buuhan and maybe Vegetto, but far below god base saiyans. He would easily win against Frost, Magetta and Cabba, but loses horribly against Hit.

[Dragon Ball Gus]

What if Goku Black was Frieza from the future timeline?

[Gog]

What if Goku Black was Frieza from the future timeline?

The arc's quality would have increased. But the only real difference I would see is that Freeza Pink gains a stronger form than his black counterpart.

[TheUltimateNinja]

What if Goku Black was Frieza from the future timeline?

The arc's quality would have increased. But the only real difference I would see is that Freeza Pink gains a stronger form than his black counterpart.

No, the reason Black's so strong is because he's a God, a mortal like Freeza wouldn't be able to achieve the same power.

[Gog]

What if Goku Black was Frieza from the future timeline?

The arc's quality would have increased. But the only real difference I would see is that Freeza Pink gains a stronger form than his black counterpart.

No, the reason Black's so strong is because he's a God, a mortal like Freeza wouldn't be able to achieve the same power.

What do you mean? Black has the body of Goku, it was outright stated and implied that he got all the power from Son Goku, the power of a mortal. Freeza on the other hand is Goku, but he's you know Freeza, the guy with all the potential in the world and none of the motivation to do anything with it. But in the end it all depends if Zamasu is in Freeza's body.

[TheUltimateNinja]

The arc's quality would have increased. But the only real difference I would see is that Freeza Pink gains a stronger form than his black counterpart.

No, the reason Black's so strong is because he's a God, a mortal like Freeza wouldn't be able to achieve the same power.

What do you mean? Black has the body of Goku, it was outright stated and implied that he got all the power from Son Goku, the power of a mortal. Freeza on the other hand is Goku, but he's you know Freeza, the guy with all the potential in the world and none of the motivation to do anything with it. But in the end it all depends if Zamasu is in Freeza's body.

In the manga Black is stated to be so powerful because he's the unification of a divine mind and a mortal body. If Freeza took Goku's body he'd still just be a mortal.

[Gog]

No, the reason Black's so strong is because he's a God, a mortal like Freeza wouldn't be able to achieve the same power.

What do you mean? Black has the body of Goku, it was outright stated and implied that he got all the power from Son Goku, the power of a mortal. Freeza on the other hand is Goku, but he's you know Freeza, the guy with all the potential in the world and none of the motivation to do anything with it. But in the end it all depends if Zamasu is in Freeza's body.

In the manga Black is stated to be so powerful because he's the unification of a divine mind and a mortal body. If Freeza took Goku's body he'd still just be a mortal.

Huh, I just assumed that it was Zamasu taking Freeza's body... I assumed that was what the OP meant in his question and if not that Freeza was just then only one in the future.

What if?

Goku landed in Red Ribbon Army Base instead of Gohan's care?

[TheUltimateNinja]

Goku landed in Red Ribbon Army Base instead of Gohan's care?

They'd kill him.

[GreatSaiyaman123]

What if Krillin killed 2nd form Freeza instead of running after he used the Solar Flare?

[TheUltimateNinja]

What if Krillin killed 2nd form Freeza instead of running after he used the Solar Flare?

Piccolo would probably kill Vegeta.

[Noah]

What if Cell had killed Vegeta and Trunks in their battles?

[nickzambuto]

What if the Supreme Kai, rather than having no knowledge of the Portera earrings, had a misconception of them as the Old Kai did, but the misconception he has is that the fusion only works on Gods and is temporary. After Dabura gets back up against Buu, the Supreme Kai takes a sensu bean (say Goku gave him the bad before fighting Vegeta), then gives Dabura an earring and after a tough conversation, the Supreme Kai convinces Dabura that a temporary fusion is their only option. The two of them unwittingly enter a permanent merger.

What happens next?

Now that's a clever and original concept!

I imagine those two would have a pretty potent fusion, not Vegetto quality but they are very opposite with similar power levels. I honestly imagine them surpassing Boo, if only barely.

[Gog]

What if

Mecha Freeza and Future Trunks fell in love?

What if?

Goku Potara fused with Vegeta during the Saiyan Arc?

[nickzambuto]

What if

Mecha Freeza and Future Trunks fell in love?

What if?

Goku Potara fused with Vegeta during the Saiyan Arc?

1. We'd get the true ending Toriyama intended before damn editor meddling.

2. By official power levels they'd already surpass Freeza... insane.