Well that was.... Something.Big Momma wrote:I hate to bump this thread off the second page (Man, I'm surprised it's here already...it must have been awhile since I last logged in) but I just wanted to post up this video review of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqyFVq5XDgA
He gives a pretty good review, as seen through the eyes of a dubbie who grew up with the series. Definitely worth a look.
Is this guy like the unfunny dubby version of DouchebagChocolat? What a frustrating watch.SSJ God Gogeta wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqyFVq5XDgA
Oh, man, are those actual quotes? How could anyone be so close-minded and ignorant? Is he aware that the dub wouldn't even exist without the original?dbboxkaifan wrote:"I just can't watch Dragon Ball in Japanese.. it's dumb"
"Don't watch it in Japanese"
"If it was great it would've came to America. There are producers/studios that check the releases over in Japan to see if anything would be profitable. Profitable = at least decent."
Oh dear Dende, what a moron this guy is.
Dragon Ball in general filled with a lot comedy scenes I watched it in Japanese w/Eng subs so I don't know how the English dub handled it but it seems they might've took away hearing his opinion.
Anyway, just one week away from getting my Battle of Gods Blu-ray.
I also liked his observation about the "high-speed" frame loops in the original show.
But I do agree with Gyt Kaliba in that... no... whatever song he was playing was terrible.
Goku defeated Freeza. Trunks killed him. And if Trunks hadn't interfered, Goku would kill him just as easily, like he did in the future timeline.Jackal puFF wrote:Does anyone ever just feel like correcting Whis that it was really Trunks that technically defeated Freeza in the end?
I havent seen the movie yet cause Australia and all that, but... I have no words. Of all the ways Funi could go about it they make Son like Superman again cause this is MERICA'. Kai was this close to getting Son Goku back to being Son Goku and then this. They can fix Freeza but refuse to fix Son. Funimation are great at dubs and script writing most of the time nowadays, so why are we holding on to a decade old idea of DB. They can make One Piece a perfect adaption yet not Dragon Ball? The thing is it's just Goku, everyone else is an adaption of the Japanese version to english keeping the original character traits. Yet Funi refuse to fix Goku and make his character like the original. They are too afraid of alienating the US fans that they are alienating the fans of actual Dragon Ball.Bullza wrote: Funi's line sounds better though I haven't actually heard it yet.
But yes Schemmel did well with the "I WON'T LET YOU DESTROY MY WORLD!!" Bit. Yes, but the delivery of the line was rushed, so it fit in the lip flaps so its more like "iwillnotletyoudestroymyworld!" click the link above in the forum and skip to 3:55 watch nothing else just that line. It's 4kids level bad in it's delivery. In the original version I thought Goku was telling Beerus to focus on the fight instead of destroying the battlefield than not to destroy his home cause he is the saviour of everything. There is another line of the like when Goku is stopping Beerus's Sun Bomb.Bullza wrote:Was the "Don't enjoy destruction" line the one Goku said before the Hero song played? If so that was pretty cheesy especially combined with Goku then screaming because in Japanese it really does like a wailing baby. Funi's line sounds better though I haven't actually heard it yet.
Imho, both lines sounds terrible, and I don't really see how either one really pays Goku's intended character, any more justice.Bullza wrote:Was the "Don't enjoy destruction" line the one Goku said before the Hero song played? If so that was pretty cheesy especially combined with Goku then screaming because in Japanese it really does like a wailing baby. Funi's line sounds better though I haven't actually heard it yet.
You're exaggerating the problem here. "Super-Man Goku" is arguably present in the movie for all of three sentences. He's still largely interested in Beerus just because he thinks the fight will be fun, his bit about being annoyed that he couldn't attain the God-form on his own is still translated faithfully, and he still spends the vast majority of the movie being his usual goofy self. And as I've mentioned a few times before, it's not like Manga-Goku never expressed concern for the safety of the world either. Saving the world was definitely among his priorities during the fights with Vegeta and Freeza, at least.NintendoBlaze53 wrote:Oh my God! Is that how they translated "Don't enjoy destruction!" as "I will not let you destroy my world!".
So one line means they're not making goku like manga goku? They just faithfully translated nearly every other line and JUST this one means, oh they're not keeping true to manga goku?NintendoBlaze53 wrote:Oh my God! Is that how they translated "Don't enjoy destruction!" as "I will not let you destroy my world!".
MY HOLY GRAIL (110% Serious. Please sell me one)Mayuri Kurotsuchi wrote:"In this world, nothing perfect exists. It may be a cliche after all but it's the way things are. That's precisely why ordinary men pursue the concept of perfection, it's infatuation. But ultimately I have to ask myself "What is the true meaning of being perfect?" and the answer I came up with was nothing. Not one thing. The truth of the matter is I despise perfection! If something is truly perfect, that's IT! The bottom line becomes there is no room for imagination! No space for intelligence or ability or improvement! Do you understand? To men of science like us, perfection is a dead end, a condition of hopelessness. Always strive to be better than anything that came before you but not perfect! Scientist's agonize over the attempt to achieve perfection! That's the kind of creatures we are! We take joy in trying to exceed our grasp, in trying to reach for something that in the end, we have to admit may in fact be unreachable!"
That was probably the worst line in the whole movie for me, it was just so embarassingly superman-esc "ally-to-good" moment when I heard it. I intantly thought it sounded weird. "My" world? When does Goku ever claim the Earth as "his"? Didnt Goku just only stand for fair sportsmanship when he fights? Being against killing bystanders isn't the same as destroying a percieved symbolized ideology. I wish Funimation would realize this. Goku doesn't protect people in obligation, he just doesn't believe in instigating casualties.NintendoBlaze53 wrote:Oh my God! Is that how they translated "Don't enjoy destruction!" as "I will not let you destroy my world!".
Its more of a general statement though. He could just say "You cant destroy this Planet!" or "You cant blow up the Earth!" as in repulsion to the action itself rather than the presumed symbolic meaning of what Funimation tried to imply with their line.Dbzfan94 wrote:While the line seems a little off considering how humbled it was said, I think it's much better than "Don't enjoy destruction!" That sounds more Superman-like than anything else in the dub of BoG
Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.
