Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[MarcFBR]

Not quite, The DC DTVs actually do a decent majority of their money in stores that don't report numbers.

There's a popular DC site that has the three DC DTV movies in 2011 at selling an estimated 1.2 million copies and the three in 2012 at selling 1.1 million copies. That's an average of 383,000 copies and that's probably a fair amount less by 2014.

That's still just that, estimates, and my guess is that Battle of Gods, if it has legs, will hit 750k over it's lifetime if it's lucky.

There's no way of knowing to what extent their sales are left out for both but Battle of Gods could sell considerably less and still end up making more money.

Absolutely true, but then if you start digging there are other things that pop up- 1. It's a licensed brand, which means not all the money goes into Funimation's pocket. 2- Funimation had to effectively do advertising like they had never done (and to their credit they did.)

Well the retail price for Batman was $25 while DBZ was $35. On amazon Batman is $18 and DBZ is $30. The numbers might be a bit off but probably not significantly and the average price spent on DBZ wouldn't have been as low as $30 either.

Based on how prices were at release, I'd guess most people actually paid around $25 for DBZ, I was just pointing out their estimates estimated it at $30, which was a roughly fair price to guess (MSRP was 35, many notable stores were selling it at 25, so they split the difference.

I'm sure most DBZ fans who had heard about the movie had watched it online. The movie has been on youtube in full and it'll get hundreds of thousands of views each time. I just typed in Battle of Gods on youtube now and the first and fourth videos are the entire movie, a dub and a sub and those two have almost 290,000 views between them in just 3 weeks.

I'm guessing in the case of this release it probably didn't affect it as much as you'd expect, since generically it is still one of the better selling DBZ releases and as we've both agreed, physical media is going down in general.

This just doesn't happen with the DC movies so easily.

We both agree on this, but then that's a delay that's going to happen with this sort of release, and if anything just further shows a reason for them not to expand it next time around.

But it hasn't been 20 years for those in US. It's only been 8 years since Wrath of the Dragon came out. These are still Batman and Superman movies and there popularity far surpasses the likes of DBZ. These DC DTV movies will sell after piggybacking off the success of the theatrical movies that make hundreds of millions of dollars in just US alone.

Which shows just how valuable those brands are. The DTVs are free money.

That some anime that ended years ago can even be comparable to Batman and Superman movies and even possibly exceed them in sales is a feat in itself.

But the anime can't really be compared and doesn't exceed Batman and Superman movies. It's comparable to very nearly dirt cheap made straight to video animations that are sold purposely ultra cheap (and which the audience in general hasn't really liked a good number of them) and DBZ in perhaps it's best American performance ever maybe slid ahead a notch (which is still behind how live action Dragonball did in the USA.)

Doesn't exactly sound to me like something that should get a full wide theatrical release for the next one.

Battle of Gods was a theatrical success. What was originally supposed to be a 4 day limited run at 350 locations ended up being a 10 day run at 800 locations. It's run was extended after the movie came out because it was doing well. Same thing happened in Australia.

They clearly underestimated how well it was going to do. The next one may not get a huge release but it'll probably get a bigger and longer release with more advertising.

It did well... for a niche specialty release. It didn't even do that great for anime (didn't break the 10 top in the USA.) Again, it did very well, partially because they aimed it's release amazingly well, but it clearly wouldn't have had the legs to do anything of consequence in the long run. Quite well for a limited release. But still just a drop in the bucket even compared to nearly any wide release bomb.

I mean, look at Mask of the Phantasm. Many theaters thought it was a theatrical compilation of episodes, so it was often double booked with repeat kids films at many theaters when it came out at a discount price, and it did far worse than expected, and it still did more than BoG did in only it's first week.

I'm not saying BoG did poorly, it did very well, for what it is, doesn't mean doing a wide release would be anything near a smart idea.

[Bullza]

Well Battle of Gods was only in theatres for like 10 days and the gross was only for 8 days worth (it was only advertised for the 4 days). The Anime movies in the Top 10, where all distributed by major companies and were in theatres for weeks upon weeks, some in several times the amount of theatres as Battle of Gods.

And even though they made more, movies like Yu Gi Oh, Pokemon 3, Digimon and maybe The Wind Rises would be considered box office disappoint and Battle of Gods wasn't.

Mask of Phantasm was released in 1,500 theatres throughout it's first week. DBZ ranged from 692 theatres to as little as 29, Most people didn't even know about these extra days. Mask of Phantasm probably had TV and theatre commercials, it had a toyline and came out at the shows peak while DBZ had nothing like that.

Not saying it could make a ton of money but if Fox were to distribute it in like 1,000 theatres for the 2 weeks, put some commercials on the cartoon channels, bring it out within months of the Japanese release rather than over a year later and clamp down on youtube and these anime sites then it could make a decent amount, like $10 million maybe.

[G1Ravage]

Question: What's up with the shortened ending credits? The manga retrospective goes straight from Goku meeting Bulma to Dragon Ball Z stuff. But if you watch the creditless closing from the Extras menu, the manga pages cover pretty much all of Dragon Ball first.

[omegalucas]

Question: What's up with the shortened ending credits? The manga retrospective goes straight from Goku meeting Bulma to Dragon Ball Z stuff. But if you watch the creditless closing from the Extras menu, the manga pages cover pretty much all of Dragon Ball first.

The credits are shortened in the extended version.
Also, at least in the UK version, the theatrical version has Japanese credits and the extended has English.

[Retan]

I actually like that they covered more of the Z part of the manga (And yes I know it's all called Dragonball in japan).

[MarcFBR]

Well Battle of Gods was only in theatres for like 10 days and the gross was only for 8 days worth (it was only advertised for the 4 days). The Anime movies in the Top 10, where all distributed by major companies and were in theatres for weeks upon weeks, some in several times the amount of theatres as Battle of Gods.

The gross for the last few days likely wasn't reported because the numbers didn't matter, or at that point it was purely by distributors who don't do enough numbers.

And even though they made more, movies like Yu Gi Oh, Pokemon 3, Digimon and maybe The Wind Rises would be considered box office disappoint and Battle of Gods wasn't.

Most of them were actually roughly in estimations. They would have liked if they did better, but no one walked way unhappy from those (Yu Gi Oh was seen as advertising it as a signature brand, Pokemon 3 did well enough that they still put more in theaters (although they were smart enough to go ultra limited after that one,) Digimon gets more complicated and involves digging up information from over a decade ago, but giving it a theatrical showing was more about capitalizing on popularity and showing the brand growing, regardless of actual theatrical sales (and was partially meant to help bolster product sales in a time period where it was actually outselling Pokemon products in the USA.)

Mask of Phantasm was released in 1,500 theatres throughout it's first week. DBZ ranged from 692 theatres to as little as 29, Most people didn't even know about these extra days. Mask of Phantasm probably had TV and theatre commercials, it had a toyline and came out at the shows peak while DBZ had nothing like that.

Yet once again... most people who liked Batman didn't even know Phantasm existed at the time (and theaters itself didn't even believe it was a movie.) Sisko and Ebert after seeing it on VHS felt disappointed they had skipped seeing it in theaters entirely (they had also believed it was a kids TV compilation and didn't even bring it up on their show until they saw it much later.) And the 'people didn't know about the extra days of DBZ" thing doesn't hold much water because even the days they DID know about dipped quite low. Other than the first two days, the numbers it did were relatively small.

Not saying it could make a ton of money but if Fox were to distribute it in like 1,000 theatres for the 2 weeks, put some commercials on the cartoon channels, bring it out within months of the Japanese release rather than over a year later and clamp down on youtube and these anime sites then it could make a decent amount, like $10 million maybe.

My guess is it made exactly what it was going to make. Any earlier release, or any release pumped up by advertising might add 1 million, maybe even 2, but that would easily be offset by the cost of tv advertising you suggest, and things needed to be done to get wider distribution (and that's even if you could get theaters to do it, limited run stuff in general you have a smaller theater number because they know the numbers won't hold up.)

And just to point out... the one showing REPEAT of Day of the Doctor in the USA that was a few days after the special aired effectively sold out and made nearly $5 million (nearly double BoG) from 660 theaters (which again, only one showing)... which is less theaters than BoG had in it's largest day. Goku and friends have 1000 years of growing to do before they can do that.

But even then, I'm still guessing Evolution would beat Z.

[MarcFBR]

Well Battle of Gods was only in theatres for like 10 days and the gross was only for 8 days worth (it was only advertised for the 4 days). The Anime movies in the Top 10, where all distributed by major companies and were in theatres for weeks upon weeks, some in several times the amount of theatres as Battle of Gods.

The gross for the last few days likely wasn't reported because the numbers didn't matter, or at that point it was purely by distributors who don't do enough numbers.

And even though they made more, movies like Yu Gi Oh, Pokemon 3, Digimon and maybe The Wind Rises would be considered box office disappoint and Battle of Gods wasn't.

Most of them were actually roughly in estimations. They would have liked if they did better, but no one walked way unhappy from those (Yu Gi Oh was seen as advertising it as a signature brand, Pokemon 3 did well enough that they still put more in theaters (although they were smart enough to go ultra limited after that one,) Digimon gets more complicated and involves digging up information from over a decade ago, but giving it a theatrical showing was more about capitalizing on popularity and showing the brand growing, regardless of actual theatrical sales (and was partially meant to help bolster product sales in a time period where it was actually outselling Pokemon products in the USA.)

Mask of Phantasm was released in 1,500 theatres throughout it's first week. DBZ ranged from 692 theatres to as little as 29, Most people didn't even know about these extra days. Mask of Phantasm probably had TV and theatre commercials, it had a toyline and came out at the shows peak while DBZ had nothing like that.

Yet once again... most people who liked Batman didn't even know Phantasm existed at the time (and theaters itself didn't even believe it was a movie.) Siskel and Ebert after seeing it on VHS felt disappointed they had skipped seeing it in theaters entirely (they had also believed it was a kids TV compilation and didn't even bring it up on their show until they saw it much later.) And the 'people didn't know about the extra days of DBZ" thing doesn't hold much water because even the days they DID know about dipped quite low. Other than the first two days, the numbers it did were relatively small.

Not saying it could make a ton of money but if Fox were to distribute it in like 1,000 theatres for the 2 weeks, put some commercials on the cartoon channels, bring it out within months of the Japanese release rather than over a year later and clamp down on youtube and these anime sites then it could make a decent amount, like $10 million maybe.

My guess is it made exactly what it was going to make. Any earlier release, or any release pumped up by advertising might add 1 million, maybe even 2, but that would easily be offset by the cost of tv advertising you suggest, and things needed to be done to get wider distribution (and that's even if you could get theaters to do it, limited run stuff in general you have a smaller theater number because they know the numbers won't hold up.)

And just to point out... the one showing REPEAT of Day of the Doctor in the USA that was a few days after the special aired effectively sold out and made nearly $5 million (nearly double BoG) from 660 theaters (which again, only one showing)... which is less theaters than BoG had in it's largest day. Goku and friends have 1000 years of growing to do before they can do that.

But even then, I'm still guessing Evolution would beat Z.

[Bullza]

The gross for the last few days likely wasn't reported because the numbers didn't matter

Yeah it probably only made another $40-50K or so.

They would have liked if they did better, but no one walked way unhappy from those (Yu Gi Oh was seen as advertising it as a signature brand

They definitely wouldn't have been happy with their gross. Both Yu Gi Oh and Pokemon 3 were put in well over 2,000 theatres and their final gross was very poor for the amount of theatres they were in. There were a few Pokemon movies after 3 that were released in theatres but it wasn't by Warner Bros, they soon passed it on.

They clearly expected more from Yu Gi Oh with how wide it's release was, maybe hoped it'd be a success like Pokemon and it wasn't at all. Same with Fox they were obviously trying to cash in on Pokemon's success with Digimon but it was a disappointment too.

Yet once again... most people who liked Batman didn't even know Phantasm existed at the time

Yes but it was STILL released in several times the amount of theatres for several times as long. It would make more money regardless of it's poor marketing which was still better than Battle of Gods marketing which had a few articles on the internet and a trailer on youtube. The people who knew Battle of Gods existed had already watched it months before it came out.

And again even though that movie made more money it was still a disappointment which Battle of Gods wasn't.

Other than the first two days, the numbers it did were relatively small.

That's because it was only on the first two days was the movie shown in 650+ theatres. The other two it was only shown in 250 theatres and the money it made on those days was still a lot more than it made on the other days people didn't know about except the second Tuesday.

Any earlier release, or any release pumped up by advertising might add 1 million, maybe even 2, but that would easily be offset by the cost of tv advertising you suggest, and things needed to be done to get wider distribution

It would add a lot more than a $1-2 million if they were to do as I suggested so it wouldn't offset the cost. They wouldn't have to go crazy, they could market the movie more heavily on youtube for free and a few commercials on Nicktoons or Adult Swim could go a long way.

Combine that with the movie being in more theatres and staying in those theatres for a longer period and it would make a decent amount for what it was.

And just to point out... the one showing REPEAT of Day of the Doctor in the USA that was a few days after the special aired effectively sold out and made nearly $5 million (nearly double BoG) from 660 theaters (which again, only one showing)...

It made $4.77 million and it made as much as it did largely thanks to the higher cost of the 3D tickets. It sold 320,000 tickets compared to Battle of Gods which sold 306,000 tickets so the difference isn't as extreme as you're making it out to be. It was a repeat that aired a couple days after, Battle of Gods came out a year after people had already seen it.

Doctor Who is also at the peak of it's popularity and DBZ is over 10 years past it.

But even then, I'm still guessing Evolution would beat Z.

And even if it did it'd be perfectly fine as Evolution cost $68 million for Fox to produce and market according to BoxOffice.com and was shown in over 2,000 theatres. Likewise with the anime movie they'd only be spending a few million to advertise and distribute if that so it could afford to not beat it.

[MarcFBR]

They definitely wouldn't have been happy with their gross. Both Yu Gi Oh and Pokemon 3 were put in well over 2,000 theatres and their final gross was very poor for the amount of theatres they were in. There were a few Pokemon movies after 3 that were released in theatres but it wasn't by Warner Bros, they soon passed it on.

They clearly expected more from Yu Gi Oh with how wide it's release was, maybe hoped it'd be a success like Pokemon and it wasn't at all. Same with Fox they were obviously trying to cash in on Pokemon's success with Digimon but it was a disappointment too.

Well no doubt they always want it to do better, but everyone involved made money, and in the case of Pokemon, it was wringing out the last few drops of the mass market while they still could. Yu-Gi-Oh did well enough that 4kids kept funding USA specific Yu-Gi-Oh animation (not enough to do it theatrically, but it made enough that it convinced them it was worth doing.)

Yet once again... most people who liked Batman didn't even know Phantasm existed at the time

Yes but it was STILL released in several times the amount of theatres for several times as long. It would make more money regardless of it's poor marketing which was still better than Battle of Gods marketing which had a few articles on the internet and a trailer on youtube. The people who knew Battle of Gods existed had already watched it months before it came out.

Number of theaters doesn't always equate to money. You sort of argue the opposite down below regarding Doctor Who. And after the issues people had with Returns not being child friendly, properly marketing for a child friendly (mostly) Batman film could have done quite a bit.

And again even though that movie made more money it was still a disappointment which Battle of Gods wasn't.

I never really argued Phantasm wasn't a monetary disappointment. Because it was Batman, and Batman has monetary expectations. DBZ they got half of a nickel and weren't even happy, they were ecstatic that they even made that much.

That's because it was only on the first two days was the movie shown in 650+ theatres. The other two it was only shown in 250 theatres and the money it made on those days was still a lot more than it made on the other days people didn't know about except the second Tuesday.

Well yes, but you are also ignoring that it's money per theater also began to collapse after day 2. It clearly didn't have legs, and the people who wanted to see it saw it early (and even then, plenty of people said they were in theaters that weren't overly crowded, so it isn't like they underestimated demand, sold out, and just didn't have space to put people. A few theaters felt like there might be more demand and ADDED an extra theater room for it (little risk because nothing new was open when it came out) and it was unneeded.

It would add a lot more than a $1-2 million if they were to do as I suggested so it wouldn't offset the cost. They wouldn't have to crazy, they could market the movie more heavily on youtube for free and a few commercials on Nicktoons or Adult Swim could go along way.

I feel like in general, the people watching DB on Nicktoons, or watch anime on Adult Swim (which isn't many... repeats of the Cleveland Show would likely do better) probably knew it was in theaters, because Funimation's internet advertising was done pristinely well.)

Combine that with the movie being in more theatres and staying in those theatres for a longer period and it would make a decent amount for what it is.

Which sort of ignores that it didn't even fill up theaters on day 1. They had a nice niche success, but that's about as far as it was going to go.

It made $4.77 million and it made as much as it did largely thanks to the higher cost of the 3D tickets. It sold 320,000 tickets compared to Battle of Gods which sold 306,000 tickets so the difference isn't as extreme as you're making it out to be. It was a repeat that aired a couple days after, Battle of Gods came out a year after people had already seen it.

BoG tickets at most places were sold as special event tickets and were sold at relatively similar prices. Day of the Doctor made money because of how well it did. The average per theater on Day of the Doctor was $7,155. BoGs per theater on it's first day (which was it's biggest day) was $1,550. Day of the Doctor certainly cost more at some locations, but not at the ratio of cost difference there. (I went ahead and checked prices from my local theater. BoG was 11.50, Who was 13.) Of course, it ignores that still that Who had more tickets for one screening, one one day, after it already aired on TV, and people recorded it, and could buy the digital download, and were willing to pay a premium price to do so.

Doctor Who is also at the peak of it's popularity and DBZ is over 10 years past it.

You've basically just killed your own argument here. Where it is in it's popularity doesn't matter (as established by Phantasm doing poorly when Batman was still red hot.) What it can do in theaters does. Of course, from what sales information we have, it seems this one is STILL selling more copies than prior DBZ films that came out when DBZ wasn't quite yet old hat in the USA, even with current declining physical media sales.

It's also worth mentioning limited screenings of the opera Aida in 2012 (done via Fathom) did nearly $3 million on one day with practically no advertising, and it's not exactly hard to see an opera that is nearly 150 years old (and it's per theater amount was over $3000, which is double BoGs.)

So again, DBZ did very well. For what it is. And there is nothing wrong with that.

[Bullza]

Number of theaters doesn't always equate to money.

It does far more than it doesn't, that's why it is done in general. Had Battle of Gods been shown in 1,500 theatres for a straight week it would have made a lot more than it did, more so than Batman MOTP made in it's first week easily.

Well yes, but you are also ignoring that it's money per theater also began to collapse after day 2.

Well that's normal for a lot of films and this is a fan driven film too. The Amazing Spider-man when that opened on a Tuesday it did $8,100 on average the first day and was down to $3,600 by the third day. Being that people didn't know about some of these extra days it wouldn't have done as well.

It's theatre average was good on the Saturday too.

I feel like in general, the people watching DB on Nicktoons, or watch anime on Adult Swim (which isn't many... repeats of the Cleveland Show would likely do better) probably knew it was in theaters, because Funimation's internet advertising was done pristinely well.)

Well most fans especially the older fans who'd watch it on Adult Swim would probably know. The younger one's not so much as they aren't usually the type to look up release dates and check the related news for it so commercials would be more effective for them.

If the commercial looks cool then it can attract people who otherwise would never have looked it up. People who used to be fans years ago may not have even known about the movie and to see a commercial for one could reinvigorate some interest.

Your casual fan would not have known the exact dates the movie was in theatres.

Which sort of ignores that it didn't even fill up theaters on day 1.

Most people here mentioned how crowded it was when they went to see it. I saw on the Movie Tickets website showings getting sold out and removed just like what also happened with Australia and in both countries they extended it's run to meet demand which wouldn't have happened if a lot of theatres weren't selling out.

Just because not every single theatre was packed doesn't mean it wouldn't make more money if it wasn't in twice as many theatres for twice as long. I've seen the biggest blockbusters on Day 1 and none of them have ever been completely full.

BoG tickets at most places were sold as special event tickets and were sold at relatively similar. Day of the Doctor made money because of how well it did. The average per theater on Day of the Doctor was $7,155. BoGs per theater on it's first day (which was it's biggest day) was $1,550. Day of the Doctor certainly cost more at some locations, but not at the ratio of cost difference there. (I went ahead and checked prices from my local theater. BoG was 11.50, Who was 13.)

It made $4.77 million and sold 320,000 tickets, that's an average ticket price of $15. Battle of Gods average ticket price was not nearly as high and you can't compare theatre averages as Battle of Gods was spread over several days, not everyone had to go see it on a particular day.

Interstellar didn't have a theatre average that high on a opening day on Friday.

after it already aired on TV, and people recorded it, and could buy the digital download, and were willing to pay a premium price to do so.

Which still does not compare to a movie being on anime sites and youtube for a year for free. Doctor Who fans had the option to just wait an extra day or so to be able to see it on the big screen INSTEAD. DBZ fans were never going to wait. If that Doctor Who episode that aired when it did was released in theatres now would it make nearly as much as it did after all this time it's been out? Of course not.

[MarcFBR]

Lots of stuff

Doesn't make sense to just keep going quote for quote, at least for me at this point.

The truth is it may have done marginally better, but never to the numbers that would ever justify a wide/full theatrical rollout, which was the original plot.

At the end of the day we are going back and forth on 'what if this, or that, or this' when it happened the way it happened, and the anime business is the way it is, which isn't really likely to change for the next film.

And of course, for this great success of anime the only stuff we can really compare it to are either other niche limited releases, or big releases that failed.

And that alone basically says all we need to know.

[90sDBZ]

So I finally got to see this movie last Monday and thought I'd share my opinion on it. Firstly I'll just say that I absolutely loved it. It was the most fun I've had watching DBZ in awhile. So anyway I'll go through the good and bad. I'll start with the bad because there's really not much of it. In fact I wouldn't even go as far as to call it bad but rather stuff that I didn't much care for. So here goes.

While I liked the overall light tone of the movie and really enjoyed certain comedy scenes(which I'll get to after), I felt that certain parts, like the stuff with Pilaf and co. and Saiyaman were just a bit much. I always enjoyed seeing Pilaf and his gang in DB and even in GT, and always found them funny. In this I just didn't enjoy them as much. Them being turned into kids was a nice reference to GT but seeing them like that with their childish antics just felt a bit out of place. I felt that the scene with them running around Bulma's house just went on for too long and felt different to the rest of the movie. The thing with Trunks and Mai had the same problem. I guess it was put in to appeal to the younger kids watching DBZ for the first time. Whatever the case I felt like the movie could have done without it and would have preferred to see Pilaf and his gang as adults. And it creates the plothole of them getting stuck as kids when Shenron can grant at least 2 wishes at this point.

Another minor gripe I have is the way they handled Gohan. The idea of him being drunk is a good concept but the way they handled it just came across as awkward rather than funny. And I didn't like how he didn't have much dialogue in this movie. He's Goku's son and was once in line to replace him as the main hero. At least give him more to say and let him land a few hits on Beerus rather than make him just a background character.

Anyway now onto the good. I really loved the overall story. I like how over the top it was with Beerus supposedly being too strong for even Vegito to be able to beat. I like the idea of there being several different universes out there with warriors possessing seemingly limitless power. I love the fact that it basically sets the stage for what could be a series of new epic movies. In a way it feels like DBZ is starting all over again. All fight scenes involving Goku or Vegeta were good. As crazy as it was I really liked seeing Vegeta freak out and kick Beerus' ass for a bit. He finally got a moment to shine. I enjoyed the reanimated flashbacks. I really liked all the throwbacks to old episodes like Goku training with King Kai, Vegeta training in the spaceship, Goku's jogging suit with King Kai's symbol and the scene with Goku in space being similar to the classic Kaioken x20 scene.

The movie was full of nostalgic greatness. I loved how they handled the Super Saiyan God form, it's a really cool design. I also liked how Goku eventually ended up using his normal Super Saiyan form again too. It's probably his most iconic form and seeing him fight Beerus all-out in that just felt right. The fight itself was beautifully animated throughout, so was the entire movie for that matter, but the final battle was just incredible. I also like how they broke away from the formula of having a truly evil villain in every movie who dies at the end. I liked both Beerus and Whis as characters and enjoyed Beerus's childish antics and Whis's nonchalant attitude throughout.

Now what I really really enjoyed about this movie was Goku and Vegeta's character development. I loved the stuff with Vegeta trying to keep Beerus happy and the Bingo scene was comedy gold, especially having seen Vegeta's entire backstory (Piccolo's reaction to the Bingo result was also great). The way they handled Goku in this was great. His speech about being disheartened by the Super Saiyan God power was probably my favourite dialogue in the whole movie. It showed just how much pride he has as a fighter. It felt very fresh to hear Goku say that there's a level of power that he'll never be able to achieve in his life.

Funimation have done a great job of dubbing this movie. Sean and Chris were both at the top of their game and delivered great performances. The part were Goku tells Beerus he gives up was done perfectly by Sean. I really felt for Goku in that scene, having watched this character for so many years I feel like I've been on a long journey with the guy, and hearing him say that he gives up was a very powerful moment, moreso this time than when he surrendered to Cell.

Overall I loved the movie and as a long time DBZ fan simply have to give it a 10/10 despite the few flaws. And now I can't wait for the next movie so bring on Dragonball New Project 2015!

[Bullza]

The truth is it may have done marginally better, but never to the numbers that would ever justify a wide/full theatrical rollout, which was the original plot.

Well of course the movie could never justify being released in thousands of theatres like your average blockbuster. However like I said if they could release it in up to a thousand theatres (or even the 700) and it stayed in those theatres for at least a week it would see a huge increase over what Battle of Gods did.

And if they were to give it a small marketing campaign and release it next August which would only be a few months after it came out in Japan and well before the sub hit the internet then it would benefit greatly from it.

[Eire]

I've send s screenshots to illustrate my BOG review. Website moderator wrote that I should make new ones. I apparently have faulty copy because on some shots Goku seems to have problems with colours.
He still doesn't believe me that he doesn't.

[Michelle91]

Of course, if you really wanna look at numbers... just remember... Evolution sold better than Battle of Gods on week 1 (over 100k copies.)

That's because Evolution is a Hollywood movie and was marketed to a bigger audience while Battle of Gods was market to the niche audience. Comparing Battle of Gods is like comparing Godzilla (1998) with Godzilla 2000.

[MarcFBR]

That's because Evolution is a Hollywood movie and was marketed to a bigger audience while Battle of Gods was market to the niche audience. Comparing Battle of Gods is like comparing Godzilla (1998) with Godzilla 2000.

Which is part of the point. The beginning of the conversation was someone saying that based on how BoG did in limited release and BD/DVD sales, that it could be a successful wide release.

Godzilla 2000 it's worth mentioning did get a relatively wide American release.

[Bullza]

Second week figures are in

21,519 copies sold on Blu Ray equal to $632,000 and 8,039 copies sold on DVD equal to $161,000.

Altogether they've sold 118,280 copies on Blu Ray and DVD which is equal to $3,034,000.

[MCDaveG]

I think that's the whole point. I also thouht some long time ago, that my favorite Japanese franchise was probably huge a lot.
Later, I found that the franchise actually caters for minority of people, because it's not so universally accesible and for masses.

So nowadays, I am not suprised that me myself and some 100 people in Czech republic do like Dragon Ball for example,
as well as an anime movie which isn't from Ghibli or not stand-alone movie wit no ties to any existing franchise, won't have big figures in cinemas.

[White Oni]

I think that's the whole point. I also thouht some long time ago, that my favorite Japanese franchise was probably huge a lot.
Later, I found that the franchise actually caters for minority of people, because it's not so universally accesible and for masses.

So nowadays, I am not suprised that me myself and some 100 people in Czech republic do like Dragon Ball for example,
as well as an anime movie which isn't from Ghibli or not stand-alone movie wit no ties to any existing franchise, won't have big figures in cinemas.

I can't take you seriously with your balls and ass in my face.

[Bullza]

Third week home video sales.

It sold 18,296 copies on Blu Ray worth $523,000 and 6,393 copies on DVD worth $100,370.

Total of 144,981 copies sold and $3,721,000 earned.

They also upped the sales from last week a bit as well.