fadeddreams5 wrote:I guess so. But seeing him have trouble with Shisami leads me to believe he isn't even Cell Jr. tier.
Now if this was GT Piccolo, he'd wreck them all. xD
It seems pretty plausible that Shisami would be able to reach a power that could rival a Cell Jr. level opponent. From my understanding, Piccolo kept up with his training, so I find it hard to believe that the Namekian would have regressed in power at all.
Agreed on GT Piccolo being able to trash them all.
LightBing wrote:In DB most examples of wide ki attacks seem to be nothing more than brute force, like being ran over by a truck. And while that might work against humans and lower durability races, Metal Cooler physiology makes it less effective. For that reason the high number of adversaries overwhelms them because even if you eliminate 60, the others are still attacking and charging Supernovas, etc... More ways to lose than to win. By the way I place Metal Cooler between Yardrat Goku and Android Saga Vegeta.
Aren't Goku and Piccolo even? It would be a repetition of their fight at the 23rd Budokai, but to the death. I see Piccolo winning 7 out of 10 times. Better and more varied techniques; Goku being duller because of peace time/family.
Would a Kikoho kill Piccolo? If they get a hit they win. But I agree, slim chances, since Piccolo should be able to one-shot them all with the exception of Tenshinhan.
Goku had a slight advantage in power over Piccolo at the start of DBZ. Therefore, it's likely that he would be able to replicate the outcome of their first fight, as long as he could avoid the powerful Makankosappo.
The Shin Kikoho would cause a massive amount of damage to Piccolo if it actually connected. With that said, I don't think it would be quite enough to finish the Namekian off though. Either way, I don't see Tien being able to successfully land the move, as Piccolo isn't the type of fighter to easily catch off guard.
As for the Meta-Coolers, if they are substantially weaker than their opponent, their attacks likely won't even be able to cause any damage. As a result, even several of them attacking at once wouldn't do anything if they don't have the power to inflict damage to their opponent to begin with. Rather than having a cumulative effect, their attacks would simply be series of weak attacks that are all incapable of hurting their foe.
In terms of power, I would say Meta-Cooler is above Android arc SSJ Vegeta, but probably below Androids 17/18.
fadeddreams5 wrote:3rd Form Freeza vs Lord Slug
MSSJ Kid Gohan (w/ full resolve to fight and win) vs. SSJ Goten and SSJ Trunks (Post-RoSAT; no fusion)
Two Cell Jrs. vs SSJ Goten and SSJ Trunks (Post-RoSAT; no fusion)
Meta-Cooler vs Android 19 and Android 20
Dabura vs MSSJ Goku (Cell Games)
Bojack and Broly (2nd coming) Vs. Super Perfect Cell and Dabura (no spitting)
Super Vegito vs Freeza Final Form (F)
Buuhan vs Freeza Final Form (F)
Kid Buu vs Freeza First Form (F)
Shisami vs Imperfect Cell (post-absorptions)
Which Slug are you referring to? I'm assuming his youthful form. If so, Slug likely takes this.
Could be close, but I'd say Kid Gohan takes this. I'm still not convinced that the kids have surpassed Cell Jr. tier even after the RoSaT.
Another close one, but the Cell Jr. duo takes this in my opinion. Again, I just don't think Goten / Trunks quite hit that tier. They are likely close to it, but surpassing that realm of power seems a bit far-fetched in my opinion.
Meta-Cooler stomps. He's close to Androids 18/17 in my opinion.
Dabura crushes Goku. He's implied to be on par with Cell. This could mean on the high end, Dabura could potentially have a battle power that could rival Super Perfect Cell. Even on the low end, I would say Dabura is at the very least around the level of power Cell was at right before he went into his Super Perfect State.
Hard to tell. Could go either way. It all depends on how powerful Dabura is in comparison to Cell. If he is Super Perfect Cell tier, then I'd say this battle would either be a tie or yield a favorable outcome to Cell / Dabura. However, if Goku was comparing Dabura to Perfect Cell, then Bojack and Broly take this. I see Broly more or less around Super Perfect Cell tier, and Bojack slightly below this.
Final Form Frieza (FnF) crushes SSJ Vegetto.
Final Form Frieza (FnF) one-shots Buuhan.
Kid Buu has a shot at taking this as long as Frieza can't transform. I see them relatively on par with each other, so given Buu's crazy regeneration and stamina, even if he is slightly weaker in power, he may be able to pull this off. I imagine the fight would be similar to Buu vs SSJ3 Goku.
Shisami should be able to crush any form of Cell under Perfect Cell and/or Cell Jr tier.
