Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

Are people still claiming that jiren is below the gods and/or he isn't the mortal Whis was referring to? Yeah, no. It was bad enough when people claim that Ssb Vegito is supposedly clearly weaker than the gods for no reason whatsoever.

This just seems like a desperate attempt to keep beerus relevant. Both jiren and ultra instinct Goku would one shot him. Get over it.

[BlueVegerot]

thats quite a stretch. Jiren and Goku are not one shotting Beerus dude. all we know is that jiren > belmod and that goku has a technique that even GoDs struggle with. Beerus could be the strongest GoD and be able to blink Jiren away for all you know

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

Jiren is the individual that Whis stated was stronger than a god of destruction. That god of destruction was stated to be stronger than beerus. So we already know that jiren>beerus. And that isn't even surprising since even merged zamasu was above him.

Beerus was shocked at Jirens suppressed energy and was baffled at how that much energy could only be coming from a single person.

[Lord Frieza]

Well if we are going over Whis's exact words he says, and I have the translated episode open right here in frount of me to a can quot it word for word.

Whis - "Meanwhile, Jiren appears to be using far from full power."

Shin - "This power feels different from anything we've ever faced befor. He's strong, plan and simple."

Whis - "I daresay like a God of Destruction. He is one who has reached that state. Perhaps even surpassed it. There is a universe were lives a mortal even a God of Destruction cannot beat. It appers the rumor was true."

[avasatu]

Not only is Jiren stronger than Belmod, but it is twice implied that suppressed Jiren is in fact stronger.

First: when Belmod addresses Marcarita, his choice of wording implies Jiren beat him relatively easily.

Second: Belmod is worried Jiren will lose to Ultra Instinct Goku as he grabs his hair in fear. To me this means that Jiren’s power was likely higher at this point in the fight than the highest power level Belmod had ever seen from Jiren. Then Jiren powers up, leading to him easily catching a max power hit from Goku.

[Doctor.]

Further confirmation that Brianne is a weakling.

[Hakaishin Liquir]

Ribrianne is such a disappointment. Though I feel like she's somehow going to get a buff since I don't see why else the writers are still letting her stay in the tournament.

[dbzfan7]

Further confirmation that Brianne is a weakling.

Doc I got a little hard on when you said that. Anything you can prescribe to deal with my raging stiffy for this statement?











Also Jiren obliterates HIt...we all knew that. But his time powers remain useful and awesome....

[Zamasu55]

Hit did better than SsjB KKx20 Goku ever did against Jiren. Yeah, it was pointless after all, but I'd put him over Goku.

[Lord Beerus]

- Freeza gives Goku some of his energy (Who didn't see that coming?)
- Jiren goes on the offensive against Hit and Hit blocks some of the punches
- Hit, using the Time-Skip, is able to avoid some of Jiren's attacks
- Jiren figures out how Hit's Time-Skip work. And even now with the Time-Skip, Hit can't do anything but get his ass kicked by Jiren
- Base Vegeta overwhelms Ribrianne in a brief beam clash and then sends her flying after a flurry of offence
- Rozie comes in to make save and prevent Vegeta from finishing off Ribrianne by kickng Vegeta away
- Hit actually manages to catch Jien off gurad with his Time-Skip and catches Jiren with a punch that has enough force in it to send Jiren to edge of the arena.
- Here comes the twist... that punch wasn't any ordinary punch... Hit's punch had a paralyzing effect on Jiren created by the time-manipulation trickery of Hit's Time-Skip. And now, Jiren can't move through move.
- Jiren starts to move slightly despite being paralysed byt Hit's Time-Freeze/Time-Skip attack
- Hit goes in for the finish but Jiren manages to produce a barrier that protects him just in time
- Jiren then manages to brute force himself free from Hit's Time-Freeze/Time-Skip ability
- Jiren batters Hit. And I really mean, batters Hit. The beating is so bad that Jiren manages to damage Hit terribly just from using his eyes.
- Jiren uses the same attack that he used on Kale when she went SSJ Beserker in Epsiode 100(?) and eliminates Hit.
- Jiren meditates to as he feel with Goku exhausted and Hit out, there's nobody left to challenge him.
- Some Universe 3(?) fighters try to attack Jiren while he is meditating but Jiren has an invisible barrier that protects him and pushes back the fighters trying to attack him.

EDIT: I had to go the bathroom and missed the NEP, so I'm not sure if anything major happened there.

[Doctor.]

Doc I got a little hard on when you said that. Anything you can prescribe to deal with my raging stiffy for this statement?

One episode of GT should get rid of that right away.

[BlueVegerot]

Jiren is the individual that Whis stated was stronger than a god of destruction. That god of destruction was stated to be stronger than beerus. So we already know that jiren>beerus. And that isn't even surprising since even merged zamasu was above him.

Beerus was shocked at Jirens suppressed energy and was baffled at how that much energy could only be coming from a single person.

Sidra was shocked at ssb goku energy, champa and beerus were freaked out when goku used ssb kkx10. Reactions to energy don't mean someone is stronger. Also merged zamasu is not close to beerus dude. Goku overpowered him and kicked his halo off with ssb kk. The manga showed completed ssb goku and merged zamasu to be equal in power, beerus completely shat on completed ssb vegeta who is >= goku in power

[dbzfan7]

Doc I got a little hard on when you said that. Anything you can prescribe to deal with my raging stiffy for this statement?

One episode of GT should get rid of that right away.

Right one dosage of Black Star Dragon Ball arc oughta fix that up. Nothing like a bore to help with excitement. and this coming form someone who doesn't think GT is the spawn of Satan

[Lord Frieza]

I hope that when Jiren finally gets into the games they make his "Heat Vision" part of his fighting style and not just a super attack.

"Heat Vision"? Well as good a name as any for now.

[CJStriker_CBR]

Further confirmation that Brianne is a weakling.

Ribrianne is such a disappointment. Though I feel like she's somehow going to get a buff since I don't see why else the writers are still letting her stay in the tournament.

Yea No, we already seen her fight on a higher level, honestly this fight made some-more sense then the Goku Base fight, this one felt like she was out of her grove abit so it made sense her fighting skills where down at this point. We already have had Confirmation she can fight both Vegeta and 17 at higher levels then this so that is fact already.

I went over this more in an early post here.

viewtopic.php?p=1396036#p1395739


Also I agree that we might be getting a New Form of Ribrianne down the line soon to power her up, this Rozie and Her moment we really good, straight out of Magical Girl and other anime show moments where characters feel down and need a pick up.

So I Predicted we might get a turning point of her character soon, just not this soon. But this might have been it, have to wait for the translations to know, but it was an important moment by my accounts so Far.

[Lord Frieza]

- Freeza gives Goku some of his energy (Who didn't see that coming?)
- Jiren goes on the offensive against Hit and Hit blocks some of the punches
- Hit, using the Time-Skip, is able to avoid some of Jiren's attacks
- Jiren figures out how Hit's Time-Skip work. And even now with the Time-Skip, Hit can't do anything but get his ass kicked by Jiren
- Base Vegeta overwhelms Ribrianne in a brief beam clash and then sends her flying after a flurry of offence
- Rozie comes in to make save and prevent Vegeta from finishing off Ribrianne by kickng Vegeta away
- Hit actually manages to catch Jien off gurad with his Time-Skip and catches Jiren with a punch that has enough force in it to send Jiren to edge of the arena.
- Here comes the twist... that punch wasn't any ordinary punch... Hit's punch had a paralyzing effect on Jiren created by the time-manipulation trickery of Hit's Time-Skip. And now, Jiren can't move through move.
- Jiren starts to move slightly despite being paralysed byt Hit's Time-Freeze/Time-Skip attack
- Hit goes in for the finish but Jiren manages to produce a barrier that protects him just in time
- Jiren then manages to brute force himself free from Hit's Time-Freeze/Time-Skip ability
- Jiren batters Hit. And I really mean, batters Hit. The beating is so bad that Jiren manages to damage Hit terribly just from using his eyes.
- Jiren uses the same attack that he used on Kale when she went SSJ Beserker in Epsiode 100(?) and eliminates Hit.
- Jiren meditates to as he feel with Goku exhausted and Hit out, there's nobody left to challenge him.
- Some Universe 3(?) fighters try to attack Jiren while he is meditating but Jiren has an invisible barrier that protects him and pushes back the fighters trying to attack him.

EDIT: I had to go the bathroom and missed the NEP, so I'm not sure if anything major happened there.

[spoiler]Pretty much confermastion on what the episode spoilers say. Cabba fight the U4 girl and gets beat up, so Vegeta desides to "motivate" him by kneeing him the stomach.

At this rate I wonder who's going to be beating Cabba more next episode. The U4 girl, Frieza or Vegeta![/spoiler]

[Hakaishin Liquir]

Further confirmation that Brianne is a weakling.

Ribrianne is such a disappointment. Though I feel like she's somehow going to get a buff since I don't see why else the writers are still letting her stay in the tournament.

Yea No, we already seen her fight on a higher level, honestly this fight made some-more sense then the Goku Base fight, this one felt like she was out of her grove abit so it made sense her fighting skills where down at this point. We already have had Confirmation she can fight both Vegeta and 17 at higher levels then this so that is fact already.

I went over this more in an early post here.

viewtopic.php?p=1396036#p1395739


Also I agree that we might be getting a New Form of Ribrianne down the line soon to power her up, this Rozie and Her moment we really good, straight out of Magical Girl and other anime show moments where characters feel down and need a pick up.

So I Predicted we might get a turning point of her character soon, just not this soon. But this might have been it, have to wait for the translations to know, but it was an important moment by my accounts so Far.

I'm pretty sure that SSJ Vegeta wasn't going all out and 17 was just dicking around with her.

[Doctor.]

Yea No, we already seen her fight on a higher level, honestly this fight made some-more sense then the Goku Base fight, this one felt like she was out of her grove abit so it made sense her fighting skills where down at this point. We already have had Confirmation she can fight both Vegeta and 17 at higher levels then this so that is fact already.

We've seen her fight with a character who used a weaker form in this episode to beat her ass and we've seen her fight with another character whom we never know how much power he's using. Hardly proof of anything. The fact she gets overwhelmed by base Goku and base Vegeta should be proof enough of her position in the power pole, but yet some people decide to cling on to delusion.

[The gr]

Ribrianne is indeed base tier,why are there so many character from the TOP are below the base saiyans

[Lord Beerus]

EDIT: I had to go the bathroom and missed the NEP, so I'm not sure if anything major happened there.

[spoiler]Pretty much confermastion on what the episode spoilers say. Cabba fight the U4 girl and gets beat up, so Vegeta desides to "motivate" him by kneeing him the stomach.

At this rate I wonder who's going to be beating Cabba more next episode. The U4 girl, Frieza or Vegeta![/spoiler]

Cheers for that, mate.