Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by Low Tone G » Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:34 am

sintzu wrote:
Low Tone G wrote:(if Beerus will wake up).
I think he would have gotten killed off if Toriyama wasn't going to use him again.
I also hope that. Beerus is the most interesting villain(fair foe) in the series for me. I would like him to have to connection to new villain of the DBZ2015. I wouldn't be surprised if he would be the one to tell the wish.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by Eire » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:31 am

I would be really happy to see Beerus and Whis once more, but I don't think that they should be recruited as rivals to Goku- he is not a match for them, even with new power-ups and please, I'd like to see it staying that way. Moreover, Beerus doesn't want to be Goku's rival- sure, he enjoyed fight, but lost his interest pretty soon. Nothing to compare to Vegeta's persistence.

I'm pretty sure that our beloved prince won't share Piccolo's fate. Piccolo was turned a friend into the beginning of Z- you may argue, but I'm pretty sure that was the moment the most of the fanbase was hooked up and main themes were established. Well, sometimes you can even forget that he was a foe after all. But Vegeta and Goku? Relationship that in various forms appeared in nearly every stance of DBZ? No way.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by Bullza » Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:08 pm

sintzu wrote:You didn't watch BOG did you?
Well that's random. He doesn't compare, he very briefly surpassed Goku for a few moments and even then he got handled like a chump.

Once back to normal he goes back to being weaker than Goku as a SSJ3. Now Goku's a SSJ God and that far ahead that Vegeta is nothing in comparison. They could make Vegeta a SSJ God but it'd just be repetitive because all he does is play catch up only to fall behind again.

Now he's also being turned more into a joke character like Piccolo he needs to be pushed aside for Beerus who actually can beat a worthwhile opponent.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by Avenged » Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:18 pm

Bullza wrote:
sintzu wrote:You didn't watch BOG did you?
Well that's random. He doesn't compare, he very briefly surpassed Goku for a few moments and even then he got handled like a chump.

Once back to normal he goes back to being weaker than Goku as a SSJ3. Now Goku's a SSJ God and that far ahead that Vegeta is nothing in comparison. They could make Vegeta a SSJ God but it'd just be repetitive because all he does is play catch up only to fall behind again.

Now he's also being turned more into a joke character like Piccolo he needs to be pushed aside for Beerus who actually can beat a worthwhile opponent.
You're forgetting this is the DBZ universe where power ups always save the day and for once it might not be Goku.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by sintzu » Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:29 pm

Bullza wrote:He needs to be pushed aside for Beerus who actually can beat a worthwhile opponent.
Pushing the story's second main character aside for some random new character is the worst thing that could happen and thankfully Toriyama knows this.
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Post by JulieYBM » Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:39 pm

Vegeta has been a chump and a joke for twenty years. I don't see how a movie that thrusts him into the spotlight in a position of authority and responsibility does him any worse.
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Post by Bullza » Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:47 pm

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Bullza wrote:He needs to be pushed aside for Beerus who actually can beat a worthwhile opponent.
Pushing the story's second main character aside for some random new character is the worst thing that could happen and thankfully Toriyama knows this.
Piccolo was one of the main characters and he was pushed aside for Vegeta once he became nothing compared to Goku. Vegeta is now becoming just like Piccolo, weak compared to Goku and a comic relief character so it could happen.

What would really be worse is if they just kept recycling the same plot points they did throughout Z already. Vegeta would become a SSJ God too but would still get get his ass kicked by the villain because he can rarely beat anyone, Goku would become a SSJ God 2 and again leave Vegeta in the dust and then beat the villain and save the day.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by sintzu » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:10 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Vegeta has been a chump and a joke for twenty years.
In the saiyan saga when he beat goku and everyone else ?

Or in the Frieza saga when he was beating frieza's men left and right ?

Or in the Cell saga when he saved Goku from #19 and help Gohan beat Cell ?

Or in the Buu saga when he was the only Z fighter standing alongside Goku in the final battle ?

Or in BOG when he was the only saiyan that was able to do anything to Beerus without ssjg ?
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Post by JulieYBM » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:16 pm

The Artificial Humans arc is twenty years old, to say nothing of the other works where he is a blowhard.

Maybe you should consider the second part of the post you have quoted, too.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by Ryuman » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:17 pm

sintzu wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Vegeta has been a chump and a joke for twenty years.
In the saiyan saga when he beat goku and everyone else ?

Or in the Freeza saga when he was beating Freeza's men left and right ?

Or in the Cell saga when he saved Goku from #19 and help Gohan beat Cell ?

Or in the Buu saga when he was the only Z fighter standing alongside Goku in the final battle ?

Or in BOG when he was the only saiyan that was able to do anything to Beerus without ssjg ?
It's easy to push a point when you only use events that support one side.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by sintzu » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:22 pm

Ryuman wrote:It's easy to push a point when you only use events that support one side.

I'm just doing what everyone else here does.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by Low Tone G » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:27 pm

I like Beerus, but I would become highly outraged if he replaced Vegeta in a way or the other as a rival of Goku. No, Vegeta is the perfect rival of Goku being he has the same potentital like Goku does. Piccolo is another race, but he isn't useless not even now after so many years being well behind Goku. I still want so bad Vegeta to be the main protagonist in this following movie.

I am not able to imagine Vegeta other than a potent warrior beside Goku. I mean Vegeta doesn't know other things other than to fight. Piccolo started as a villain, then became a supporting warrior and ended up a wise ally to benevolence, because he is after all a Namekian. But Vegeta being a Saiyan he is destined to fight.
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Post by TheKingOfKamehamehas » Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:11 pm

I can see Beerus being a hero, but as a rival I can't see that happening. I wouldn't really say Piccolo was a rival because he only was strong enough for Goku in 23 Tenkaichi Budokai, Saiyan Saga, and Imperfect Cell Saga. Vegeta has always been a rival of Goku and both of them have such similar traits. He is usually on par in every saga and has always had the will to fight Goku.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by Ryuman » Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:21 pm

Yeah. Beerus seems way too lazy and disinterested in anything to be a rival to anyone.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by Doctor. » Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:59 pm

When's our next big chance of getting any type of news? V-Jump right?

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by Chuquita » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:45 pm

Re: rivals
I like the dynamic between Gokû and Vegeta too much to wanna give that up, even for Beerus. (Though potentially more 'desu' from Gokû did make that tempting.)

Re: expected news
November VJump. It's when they announced BOG's title/poster/new characters and the last chance to build hype before Jump Festa.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by Retan » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:57 pm

When does Novembers V-Jump come out?

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by Chuquita » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:00 pm

November 21st. Leaks may arrive earlier though.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by Doctor. » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:01 pm

That's something I guess...

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