"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by Meshack » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:14 am

LightBing wrote:Toyotarõ isn't going with the Jiren mystery route. Which is nice and like with the "who's Goku Black" from the previous arc, best removed since the anime already spoiled it.

I hope he also gives some focus to other relevant characters from the adversary Universes.
If you read the manga and forget about what the anime did, there’s still the mystery of “who is Gokuh-Black?” The manga just does it better than the anime version

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Post by HeroR » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:16 am

Jigurashi wrote:
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pacz360 wrote: He does have one in the anime just the manga actually taking time to show it
He does ? we barely saw him talk in the scenes he was in.

It's nice to see the leaks coming out this early.
I'd say he has a personality after 109-111. Being stoic, aloof, arrogant, and detached are personality traits. It is "stiff" as fuck though lol.
Really. It's kind of annoying how people always see being stoic and calm as 'no personality'.
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pacz360 wrote: As I said he personality is similar to hit just more basic plus the manga is taking time to show it unlike the anime
We don't know his personality to compare it to Hit, the anime doesn't really show anything. But this actually gives us the idea why he's the leader of the group. He cares about others.
Toppo is the leader of the Pride Troopers.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Meshack » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:16 am

Jigurashi wrote:
Meshack wrote:
Jigurashi wrote: That's pretty neat. There aren't enough characters that can do that.
Yeah. Freeza, Cell, Majin-Boo, Hakaishin Beerus, Whis, Champa, Vados, Frost, Hit, Shin, presumably Kibito, Fuwa’d attendant, Zamasu and the other Kaioh, the other Kaiohshin, Hakaishin, and Angels, Zenoh, the Attendants of Zenoh, and Jiren. Mainly the gods can do so but few humans
I want enough of them to where we can at least have another battle in space.
What was the first battle in space?

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Post by MyNiggaGoku » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:18 am

sintzu wrote:
MyNiggaGoku wrote:It really seems that Jiren will be THE justice warrior of this arc in the manga.He prioritizies the safety of the citizens before anything else.That's neat,and will maybe build up his real motives for wanting to get the Super DBs.He may want to wish eternal justice or something along these lines.
So he's how Superman would be if he was a badass ? that sounds good. It seems like Jerin will be likable here.
I don't know,but it seems that Tori/Toyo are taking a shot at Superman and are trying to incorporate a character of this kind to the main series.Maybe they've watched ScrewAttack's Goku vs Superman and want to make a rebellion? :lol:
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Post by Meshack » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:18 am

HeroR wrote:
Jigurashi wrote:
sintzu wrote:
He does ? we barely saw him talk in the scenes he was in.

It's nice to see the leaks coming out this early.
I'd say he has a personality after 109-111. Being stoic, aloof, arrogant, and detached are personality traits. It is "stiff" as fuck though lol.
Really. It's kind of annoying how people always see being stoic and calm as 'no personality'.
Yeah. People really want in-depth personalities all the time but it can’t happen all the time. They want someone like Jiren to go through 100 chapters/episodes (or so) of personality changes in a single arc, let alone a tournament

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Post by LightBing » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:20 am

Meshack wrote:
LightBing wrote:Toyotarõ isn't going with the Jiren mystery route. Which is nice and like with the "who's Goku Black" from the previous arc, best removed since the anime already spoiled it.

I hope he also gives some focus to other relevant characters from the adversary Universes.
If you read the manga and forget about what the anime did, there’s still the mystery of “who is Gokuh-Black?” The manga just does it better than the anime version
The manga didn't focus on it, they had it because it was the basic premise of the arc, Toyotarõ quickly had Whis spill the beans.
The anime built on it and feed it, which they could because holding on to a mystery only works if it's indeed a mystery.

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Post by pacz360 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:24 am

MyNiggaGoku wrote:
sintzu wrote:
MyNiggaGoku wrote:It really seems that Jiren will be THE justice warrior of this arc in the manga.He prioritizies the safety of the citizens before anything else.That's neat,and will maybe build up his real motives for wanting to get the Super DBs.He may want to wish eternal justice or something along these lines.
So he's how Superman would be if he was a badass ? that sounds good. It seems like Jerin will be likable here.
I don't know,but it seems that Tori/Toyo are taking a shot at Superman and are trying to incorporate a character of this kind to the main series.Maybe they've watched ScrewAttack's Goku vs Superman and want to make a rebellion? :lol:
I dont understand the comparison between the two characters jiren wanting to save civilians is something like thor, Captain America, spiderman, flash,batman, etc would do its not exclusive to supes

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Post by HeroR » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:27 am

pacz360 wrote:
MyNiggaGoku wrote:
sintzu wrote:
So he's how Superman would be if he was a badass ? that sounds good. It seems like Jerin will be likable here.
I don't know,but it seems that Tori/Toyo are taking a shot at Superman and are trying to incorporate a character of this kind to the main series.Maybe they've watched ScrewAttack's Goku vs Superman and want to make a rebellion? :lol:
I dont understand the comparison between the two characters jiren wanting to save civilians is something like thor, Captain America, spiderman, flash,batman, etc would do its not exclusive to supes
As part of a group of super heroes, Jiren not want to save people would be odd. It's just in the anime Jiren comes off as an arrogant prick.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by MisteryOne » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:28 am

Seems like Jiren can even be likeable in the manga. I hope we get to learn more about his personality.
Anyone knows if everybody is recluited in this chapter (except Frieza of course)
Meshack wrote:
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Meshack wrote: That’s... dumb.
How is it dumb when that's exactly how the fights worked before DBS? Get outta here lmao.
Hell he even does this in DBS itself, when he fought Ribrianne, he went Blue to one shot her when Base wasn't enough
And Caulifla, he went to GoD when he couldn't do the job with his SS
He’s wasting stamina when he transforms into Blue.
Then they can just transform into God and use Vegeta's staregy if they need Blue. The golden forms are completely useless.
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Post by pacz360 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:30 am

HeroR wrote:
pacz360 wrote:
MyNiggaGoku wrote: I don't know,but it seems that Tori/Toyo are taking a shot at Superman and are trying to incorporate a character of this kind to the main series.Maybe they've watched ScrewAttack's Goku vs Superman and want to make a rebellion? :lol:
I dont understand the comparison between the two characters jiren wanting to save civilians is something like thor, Captain America, spiderman, flash,batman, etc would do its not exclusive to supes
As part of a group of super heroes, Jiren not want to save people would be odd. It's just in the anime Jiren comes off as an arrogant prick.
Obviously I doubt a guy like him wouldnt give a shit about the people if he joined the joined the pride troopers

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Post by Meshack » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:38 am

MisteryOne wrote:Seems like Jiren can even be likeable in the manga. I hope we get to learn more about his personality.
Anyone knows if everybody is recluited in this chapter (except Frieza of course)
Meshack wrote:
OLKv3 wrote: How is it dumb when that's exactly how the fights worked before DBS? Get outta here lmao.
Hell he even does this in DBS itself, when he fought Ribrianne, he went Blue to one shot her when Base wasn't enough
And Caulifla, he went to GoD when he couldn't do the job with his SS
He’s wasting stamina when he transforms into Blue.
Then they can just transform into God and use Vegeta's staregy if they need Blue. The golden forms are completely useless.
But the thing is, God and Blue aren’t always needed. For some like Jiren, Toppo, Dyspo, Hit, Golden Freeza, and Potara Zamasu, God and Blue are needed. Black could have been beaten as a Super Saiyan or even a Super Saiyan 2. Using God or Blue to defeat him would have been very unnecessary. Vegeta only transformed into Blue because he wanted to his if he could do it also. When he found out, Vegeta was ready to defeat Black but Zamasu appeared. They could have done it but why? Why overkill someone? Why waste stamina on someone that doesn’t need it?

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Post by Hawk9211 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:39 am

Meshack wrote:
Jigurashi wrote:
Meshack wrote: Yeah. Freeza, Cell, Majin-Boo, Hakaishin Beerus, Whis, Champa, Vados, Frost, Hit, Shin, presumably Kibito, Fuwa’d attendant, Zamasu and the other Kaioh, the other Kaiohshin, Hakaishin, and Angels, Zenoh, the Attendants of Zenoh, and Jiren. Mainly the gods can do so but few humans
I want enough of them to where we can at least have another battle in space.
What was the first battle in space?
The only one I can think is beerus vs. champa but that was hardly a battle.
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Post by HeroR » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:41 am

Hawk9211 wrote:
Meshack wrote:
Jigurashi wrote: I want enough of them to where we can at least have another battle in space.
What was the first battle in space?
The only one I can think is beerus vs. champa but that was hardly a battle.
I just want to note that Beerus and Champa fighting in space was in the manga, yet the anime never showed any God of Destruction able to survived in space without their angel making a bubble for them.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Hawk9211 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:42 am

HeroR wrote:
Hawk9211 wrote:
Meshack wrote: What was the first battle in space?
The only one I can think is beerus vs. champa but that was hardly a battle.
I just want to note that Beerus and Champa fighting in space was in the manga, yet the anime never showed any God of Destruction able to survived in space without their angel making a bubble for them.
Did not beerus traveled without whis when he went for dinosaur's meat ?
Why power levels are important?
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Post by Jigurashi » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:43 am

HeroR wrote:
Jigurashi wrote:
sintzu wrote:
He does ? we barely saw him talk in the scenes he was in.

It's nice to see the leaks coming out this early.
I'd say he has a personality after 109-111. Being stoic, aloof, arrogant, and detached are personality traits. It is "stiff" as fuck though lol.
Really. It's kind of annoying how people always see being stoic and calm as 'no personality'.
mute_proxy wrote:
pacz360 wrote: As I said he personality is similar to hit just more basic plus the manga is taking time to show it unlike the anime
We don't know his personality to compare it to Hit, the anime doesn't really show anything. But this actually gives us the idea why he's the leader of the group. He cares about others.
Toppo is the leader of the Pride Troopers.
I don't know why either. I get people finding him boring but no personality? The U6 Namekians are more appropriate examples of characters with no personality.
Meshack wrote:
Jigurashi wrote:
Meshack wrote: Yeah. Freeza, Cell, Majin-Boo, Hakaishin Beerus, Whis, Champa, Vados, Frost, Hit, Shin, presumably Kibito, Fuwa’d attendant, Zamasu and the other Kaioh, the other Kaiohshin, Hakaishin, and Angels, Zenoh, the Attendants of Zenoh, and Jiren. Mainly the gods can do so but few humans
I want enough of them to where we can at least have another battle in space.
What was the first battle in space?
Well sort of a battle in space with Goku VS Beerus but that was really within the Earth's atmosphere I believe.

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Post by pacz360 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:46 am

HeroR wrote:
Hawk9211 wrote:
Meshack wrote: What was the first battle in space?
The only one I can think is beerus vs. champa but that was hardly a battle.
I just want to note that Beerus and Champa fighting in space was in the manga, yet the anime never showed any God of Destruction able to survived in space without their angel making a bubble for them.
Beerus and champa was shown breathing in space in ROF
Hawk9211 wrote:
HeroR wrote:
Hawk9211 wrote: The only one I can think is beerus vs. champa but that was hardly a battle.
I just want to note that Beerus and Champa fighting in space was in the manga, yet the anime never showed any God of Destruction able to survived in space without their angel making a bubble for them.
Did not beerus traveled without whis when he went for dinosaur's meat ?
He did

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Post by Legion » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:49 am

Hawk9211 wrote:
HeroR wrote:
Hawk9211 wrote: The only one I can think is beerus vs. champa but that was hardly a battle.
I just want to note that Beerus and Champa fighting in space was in the manga, yet the anime never showed any God of Destruction able to survived in space without their angel making a bubble for them.
Did not beerus traveled without whis when he went for dinosaur's meat ?
Yes.

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Post by HeroR » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:50 am

Hawk9211 wrote:
HeroR wrote:
Hawk9211 wrote: The only one I can think is beerus vs. champa but that was hardly a battle.
I just want to note that Beerus and Champa fighting in space was in the manga, yet the anime never showed any God of Destruction able to survived in space without their angel making a bubble for them.
Did not beerus traveled without whis when he went for dinosaur's meat ?
Given how fast Beerus is, he could have blintz his way to the planet before he ran out of air.
pacz360 wrote: Beerus and champa was shown breathing in space in ROF.
You can't 'breathe' in space and if Beerus and Champa were talking, they weren't in a vacuum. That is one of the few laws of physics that Dragon Ball has stuck to.
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Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Bullza » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:53 am

Not sure if it was mentioned

https://myanimelist.net/news/53059004

Volume 4 has now sold 217,000 copies.

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Post by Hawk9211 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:55 am

HeroR wrote:
Hawk9211 wrote:
HeroR wrote:
I just want to note that Beerus and Champa fighting in space was in the manga, yet the anime never showed any God of Destruction able to survived in space without their angel making a bubble for them.
Did not beerus traveled without whis when he went for dinosaur's meat ?
Given how fast Beerus is, he could have blintz his way to the planet before he ran out of air.
That is just nitpicking.
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