Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 16; Still Unreleased

[Ringworm128]

Despite the there being over 2 years of pretty much nothing I can't help but feel a bit excited. If the dub turns out to be good then I will be hyped for the Cell arc dub.

[KingofWisdom]

I still want to see it, but yeah, at this point I doubt it'll surpass FUNimation's dub. Especially since all we'll see of it is a TV cut (more than likely).

[Fizzer]

I just keep getting myself excited by thinking crap like "What if this replacement music is actually a better Kikuchi placement?"

[TheBlackPaladin]

Something tells me the excitement which some people think is dead will suddenly re-surface once the dub actually airs....

[NitroEX]

It wouldn't surprise me if they're dubbing the whole thing with the Buu arcs included. Either that or the actors are busy with other shows and have to dub their lines when they can or Ocean is busy doing something about the music and that's what's holding it up.

I don't think it will be a TV only dub at this point. With TV dubs don't they usually produce the episodes in batches in case the show get's cancelled before the end?

[KingofWisdom]

I just keep getting myself excited by thinking crap like "What if this replacement music is actually a better Kikuchi placement?"

Since when has a dub replacement score ever been better than the Japanese soundtrack? Even with the perceived "bad" placement of Kikuchi's score.

In any case, I'd love to be proven wrong on my pessimistic thoughts.

[oXdanXo]

I just keep getting myself excited by thinking crap like "What if this replacement music is actually a better Kikuchi placement?"

Since when has a dub replacement score ever been better than the Japanese soundtrack? Even with the perceived "bad" placement of Kikuchi's score.

In any case, I'd love to be proven wrong on my pessimistic thoughts.

That's a matter of opinion! No matter how bad others say it is I still prefer it as it aired in the UK with the Ocean/Funi/Ocean voices and music to match. I prefer the opening (both Rock the Dragon and the International theme) to the Japanese ones. After buying the orange bricks I also prefer Bruce Falconers music when Goku turns Super Saiyan against Freeza.

[TheBlackPaladin]

I just keep getting myself excited by thinking crap like "What if this replacement music is actually a better Kikuchi placement?"

Since when has a dub replacement score ever been better than the Japanese soundtrack? Even with the perceived "bad" placement of Kikuchi's score.

In any case, I'd love to be proven wrong on my pessimistic thoughts.

Well, yeah, that's a matter of opinion. While the idea of an original soundtrack being just that, the original one, counts for a lot in my book...it doesn't definitively decide anything. After all, I prefer to watch anime dubbed. My thought is, if I enjoy something better, then I enjoy something better, even if the original creators/composers/actors/directors aren't involved. That doesn't give dubbing studios a free pass to do whatever they want, of course, I'm just saying that I don't automatically think something is better just because it's the original version.

With that said, I can only think of one replacement score that I believe to be better--in fact, much better--than the original. I'll keep this brief since I don't want to go too off-topic, but there's a little obscure anime called Cybercity Oedo 808. For the English dub, they replaced the original score by Kazz Toyama with a new one by Rory McFarlane.....and I am still floored by how much better the replacement score is. With all due respect to Toyama-san, in comparison to McFarlane, it almost sounds like he didn't even put any effort in at all.

That's the only one I can think of, though.

[Attitudefan]

It wouldn't surprise me if they're dubbing the whole thing with the Buu arcs included. Either that or the actors are busy with other shows and have to dub their lines when they can or Ocean is busy doing something about the music and that's what's holding it up.

I don't think it will be a TV only dub at this point. With TV dubs don't they usually produce the episodes in batches in case the show get's cancelled before the end?

Ocean studios is focusing heavily on some new X-men shows according to Drummond. Something that he said he is looking forward to is some Hulk X-men crossover.

[Lord Eeyore Haw-Haw]

What, they're redubbing Hulk vs Wolverine? I kid, I kid. It was that or I make a Hulk Hogan joke...

[ChibiGoku]

Okay, we're not sure whether or not it means Z or Kai, but I'm going to post this here, anyways.

http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums/sho ... -Ocean-dub

This'll be interesting if it turns out to be Kai.

[wjbraden]

Huh?

From Funimation! The original 29 episodes of Dragonball Z have been redubbed by the fan-favorite Ocean team! Here's where it all started! Goku learns of his alien heritage when his brother arrives on Earth and kidnaps Gohan! After a battle that costs Goku's life, Piccolo takes Gohan into the wild country for special training and the rest of the Earth's defenders gather to train for the arrival of two more Saiyans: Nappa and Vegeta!

http://www.aaaanime.com/item/DVDs/FN01204.html

This whole thing is getting very confusing...

[KingofWisdom]

The supposed art also says "The original broadcast." I'm excited, but I'm very skeptical that this is for real.

[penguintruth]

Nope, still not believing it.

I'll believe it after I eject it from my DVD player after having watched it a couple of times, with Scott McNeil in my living room holding his contract and Terry Klassen talking about how things are nuts (oh hey, I just finally got that... Kuririn is a chestnut... "This is nuts!"... awesome). And we're all drinking Canadian beer and wearing hockey gear.

[90sDBZ]

Well this is certainly interesting. Was it ever actually confirmed that the new Ocean dub was actually supposed to be Kai? I remember that old interview with Kirby Morrow when he revealed the new dub and he said that an old show is coming back and even said Dragonball Z rather than saying Dragonball Z Kai. And didn't Drummond supposedly mention he was "re-recording some old lines"?

Maybe there never was an Ocean Kai. Maybe it's a re-dub of Z by Ocean and they're re-dubbing it to get some consistency. After all Funimation wouldn't be able to release the entire series in the old Ocean dub considering they never did the Ginyu-Trunks sagas and their later dub was a huge change in style as well as a huge drop in quality. It would certainly make sense. Funimation love milking DBZ and this could be their latest way of doing so.

Personally I'd just rather them re-release the old Saban Saiyan/Namek dub in HD Boxsets and be done with it. At least that would guarantee a great dub.

[Attitudefan]

Well this is certainly interesting. Was it ever actually confirmed that the new Ocean dub was actually supposed to be Kai? I remember that old interview with Kirby Morrow when he revealed the new dub and he said that an old show is coming back and even said Dragonball Z rather than saying Dragonball Z Kai. And didn't Drummond supposedly mention he was "re-recording some old lines"?

Maybe there never was an Ocean Kai. Maybe it's a re-dub of Z by Ocean and they're re-dubbing it to get some consistency. After all Funimation wouldn't be able to release the entire series in the old Ocean dub considering they never did the Ginyu-Trunks sagas and their later dub was a huge change in style as well as a huge drop in quality. It would certainly make sense. Funimation love milking DBZ and this could be their latest way of doing so.

Personally I'd just rather them re-release the old Saban Saiyan/Namek dub in HD Boxsets and be done with it. At least that would guarantee a great dub.

This does corroborate with what Drummond told me, which is that he is allowed to talk about this dub roughly around March. With this DVD announcement happening now around mid-February, it seems more than a coincidence.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Well this is certainly interesting. Was it ever actually confirmed that the new Ocean dub was actually supposed to be Kai?

Yeah, it was.

-Scott McNeil specifically used the name, "Dragon Ball Kai," several times.
-He mentioned that he was reprising the role of Jeice, who doesn't appear until well past the initial "29 episodes" that has been mentioned in this "re-dubbing."
-On a similar note, Lee Tockar has been confirmed to be playing Freeza, who also doesn't appear in the initial 29 episodes.

[Attitudefan]

Well this is certainly interesting. Was it ever actually confirmed that the new Ocean dub was actually supposed to be Kai?

Yeah, it was.

-Scott McNeil specifically used the name, "Dragon Ball Kai," several times.
-He mentioned that he was reprising the role of Jeice, who doesn't appear until well past the initial "29 episodes" that has been mentioned in this "re-dubbing."
-On a similar note, Lee Tockar has been confirmed to be playing Freeza, who also doesn't appear in the initial 29 episodes.

And even on Facebook, some actors who were in the Blue Water dub of Dragonball somewhat inferred to Kai is being produced in Vancouver.

[KingofWisdom]

We'll see if this supposed release shows up on any other sites.

[TheBlackPaladin]

We'll see if this supposed release shows up on any other sites.

Yeah, I'm leaning towards it being a hoax. And by leaning, I mean I'm 99% convinced. I'll cross over to the 100% mark when the supposed release date comes and goes without anything new coming out.