The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Rocketman » Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:14 am

Even if Pocus is relatively strong, Piccolo is above base Vegeta, so it'd go even easier for him.

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Post by Nineteen » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:18 am

1. Captain Ginyu (Goku's Body) vs. Dodoria
2. Captain Ginyu (Goku's Body) vs. Zarbon (Untransformed)
2. Captain Ginyu (Goku's Body) vs. Zarbon (Transformed)

In all three battles Ginyu begins with the same injuries Goku's body sustained during their fight.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiga » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:22 am

Nineteen wrote:1. Captain Ginyu (Goku's Body) vs. Dodoria
2. Captain Ginyu (Goku's Body) vs. Zarbon (Untransformed
2. Captain Ginyu (Goku's Body) vs. Zarbon (Transformed)

In all three battles Ginyu begins with the same injuries Goku's body sustained during their fight.
I think he'd defeat them all except transformed Zarbon, although it would be really close with untransformed Zarbon and fairly close with Dodoria.
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Post by Kid Buu » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:30 am

I give it to Ginyu, whose power would be slowly rising as he became more adjusted to the body anyway.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by CatouttaHell » Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:10 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Round 1: Buu Saga Piccolo with weighted clothing vs. Pui Pui.

Round 2: Buu Saga Piccolo without weighted clothing vs. Pui Pui.

I'm not sure if this battle already been posted already but who wins?
Pui-Pui rapes in both scenarios. He's implied multiple times to be below Pui-Pui.

Piccolo is probably no more than 50% of Kaioshin considering he didn't even bother trying to fight him.

The estimated Base Saiya-jins, who Kaioshin said right off the bat are >> him, all together are implied to be enough to put up a fight against Pui-Pui if they teamed up.

Piccolo shouldn't be even 40% of Pui-Pui realistically IMO.

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Post by lash » Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:51 am

Pui Pui is probably weaker than Vegeta when he first was shown.
Piccolo godstomps both scenarios.
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Post by Senzu_Bean » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:03 am

When was the last time a ten times Earth's gravity was significant? At the time the Saiyans were introduced, right?

Pui Pui is absolutely outmatched by Piccolo which is on a level where n times Earth's gravity no longer affects him.
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Post by Fox666 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:26 am

Nineteen wrote:1. Captain Ginyu (Goku's Body) vs. Dodoria
2. Captain Ginyu (Goku's Body) vs. Zarbon (Untransformed)
3. Captain Ginyu (Goku's Body) vs. Zarbon (Transformed)

In all three battles Ginyu begins with the same injuries Goku's body sustained during their fight.
Ginyu would win in all cases, since he can switch bodies if anything goes wrong.

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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:26 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Round 1: Buu Saga Piccolo with weighted clothing vs. Pui Pui.

Round 2: Buu Saga Piccolo without weighted clothing vs. Pui Pui.
Piccolo roflstomps Pui Pui in both rounds. If base form Vegeta was able to trash Pui Pui, then Piccolo, who's much stronger than him, would absolutely rape him. I don't believe in that "Base Saiyans > Piccolo" bullshit.
Nineteen wrote:1. Captain Ginyu (Goku's Body) vs. Dodoria
2. Captain Ginyu (Goku's Body) vs. Zarbon (Untransformed)
2. Captain Ginyu (Goku's Body) vs. Zarbon (Transformed)

In all three battles Ginyu begins with the same injuries Goku's body sustained during their fight.
Unless he'd manage to catch them off-guard and swap bodies with them, Ginyu is defeated in all three scenarios. His battle power was 23,000, while Dodoria and normal Zarbon's official battle powers are respectively 22,000 and 23,000. Although they're close in power, Ginyu's lack of knowledge in how to use Goku's body would be his downfall.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by PiccoloFan7289 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:41 pm

Super Perfect Cell (after another Zenkai boost) vs. Majin Buu. I think this would be a close one personally.

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Post by FNF » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:53 pm

Majin Boo as in Fat Boo? Orrrrr....???


Anyway zenkais are impossible to predict. They range from very small to very large zenkais.

If he got a Goku (from Ginyu to Freeza) zenkai then he would beat Fat Boo eeeaassssily. He would beat Pure Boo as well.
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Post by Saiga » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:53 pm

PiccoloFan7289 wrote:Super Perfect Cell (after another Zenkai boost) vs. Majin Buu. I think this would be a close one personally.
Boo destroys SPC without any difficulty at all.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:03 am

If Cell gets lucky and his healing boost is substantial enough, then he might be able to put up as good a fight as SSj2 Goku or Vegeta would. But he's not going to win.
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Post by Fox666 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:04 am

FNF wrote:If he got a Goku (from Ginyu to Freeza) zenkai then he would beat Fat Boo eeeaassssily. He would beat Pure Boo as well.
If he increase his power in 33 times he might defeat Evil Boo as well.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by FNF » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:19 am

Fox666 wrote:
FNF wrote:If he got a Goku (from Ginyu to Freeza) zenkai then he would beat Fat Boo eeeaassssily. He would beat Pure Boo as well.
If he increase his power in 33 times he might defeat Evil Boo as well.
Not quite by my numbers. Simplified they go like;

SP Cell- 1~

SSjin2 Goku- 1.5~
SSjin3 Goku- 7.5~

Evil Boo- <37.5~

SSjin3 Gotenks- 37.5~

Of course it depends on your multipliers etc. Anyway I don't really go by pl logic for the Boo arc any more. The gaps just become crazy to the point that they are unrealistic from a writing perspective.
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Post by Fox666 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:37 pm

I did not say he would defeat Evil Boo for sure, mostly because I am not sure of how strong he really is. But if Evil Boo was, for example, 8 times stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku, Cell could defeat him with a near death power-up of 33 times.

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Post by PiccoloFan7289 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:00 pm

Fox666 wrote:I did not say he would defeat Evil Boo for sure, mostly because I am not sure of how strong he really is. But if Evil Boo was, for example, 8 times stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku, Cell could defeat him with a near death power-up of 33 times.
It's almost unbelievable how strong Akira Toriyama made his heroes and villains at the end of Dragon Ball. It's crazy to even think that as strong as Akira Toriyama made Cell, he doesn't even hold a candle to Majin Buu's power. I do think that Super Perfect Cell would put up a fight against Majin Buu, but he wouldn't come anywhere close to winning. Although Majin Buu may be stronger and faster than Cell, Cell still has a crazy amount of techniques at his disposal. Cell is also very strategic and is a fighting genius. I also wouldn't count out Cell's regeneration either. Although his regeneration is nowhere near as advanced as Majin Buu's, it is still there and can't be ignored. Like Piccolo though, it takes Cell a minute or two to regenerate his body, which is a huge disadvantage as well. If Cell teamed up with SS2 Majin Vegeta or SS2 Goku, I think they would give Majin Buu a run for his money.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Rocketman » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:02 pm

It depends on how serious Buu is. Playful Fat Buu may take too long to realize how serious a threat Cell is, and his regeneration is powerful enough to come back from enough of Buu's attacks to give him a fighting chance.

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Post by Fox666 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:03 pm

That's not different as it was with Vegeta, however.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by FNF » Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:53 pm

Rocketman wrote:It depends on how serious Buu is. Playful Fat Buu may take too long to realize how serious a threat Cell is, and his regeneration is powerful enough to come back from enough of Buu's attacks to give him a fighting chance.
Well I wouldn't really call Fat Boo playful. He only really had fun fighting strong people and then tortured the weaker ones.
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